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Re: Harmony AI App Initial Feedback

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SinsuaLuvr wrote:So Harmony has been out for about 2 months, I have been holding out, but my curiosity is eroding my will power.....considering trying it out.

For those who already subscribe and tried it, how does it meet your expectations?

Does it still hold your interest/imagination and keeps you coming back everyday or so?

Are updates still fairly regular? Or is it very much still a work in progress?

Is it a must try? Or is it a disappointment?

I'd greatly appreciate any updates, or share your thoughts and opinions!
- It is well worth the $20 to try out.

- It can hold your interest in its current form for about a week of regular use before you've likely probed all it offers. Some users don't mind the current simplicity and claim to enjoy using it well beyond that, but others continue to use it only to help identify bugs and support continued development.

- It is VERY much still a work-in-progress, but that's actually a good thing given that it's pretty limited right now.

- Updates were weekly for awhile, but it's been a few weeks since the last one. Guile Lindroth is claiming there will be a substantial one this week.

- Right now, it's both a must-try and a disappointment, but it's really only the latter because the initial marketing was unclear on just how "work-in-progress" it still was. A long-ass topic on Club RealDoll saw a discussion on these concerns before it was agreed to lock the topic and reorganize that particular subforum to better discuss/communicate things. One of the biggest roadblocks is their decision to go mobile first, which has hamstrung some of their graphical/AI code implementation ambitions due to limited resources. Thankfully, they have stated their intent to bring a desktop companion application to market soon (though many of us would prefer a full desktop-standalone to better utilize time/resources).

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Basically, if you're interested in being a part of their development for $20 a year, it's definitely worth doing, but it's important to keep your expectations in check. Additionally, you'll stay more connected to updates and information if you create a CRD account (standard accounts are free; VIP accounts are not but are no longer required to discuss Realbotix products).

One of the biggest pros of the whole thing is that Matt and his team remain very much involved in forum conversations, so even when we have complaints, they are at least available to address them.
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Re: Harmony AI App Initial Feedback

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I have an idea for an AI that perhaps Harmony could someday pioneer:

I want an AI that can talk to Google Assistant. Alexa, Siri, Cortana and others as an AI gateway. Just as in the 1980s an 90s, the big thing in my business were network gateways, that could connect Novell LANS to IBM, HP, DEC, WANG and other major proprietary systems. I think this will be huge! Imagine Harmony, quickly being able to gain all the knowledge these other systems offer.

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Re: Harmony AI App Initial Feedback

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Gundam wrote:I have an idea for an AI that perhaps Harmony could someday pioneer:

I want an AI that can talk to Google Assistant. Alexa, Siri, Cortana and others as an AI gateway. Just as in the 1980s an 90s, the big thing in my business were network gateways, that could connect Novell LANS to IBM, HP, DEC, WANG and other major proprietary systems. I think this will be huge! Imagine Harmony, quickly being able to gain all the knowledge these other systems offer.
From what I've seen so far, Realbotix seems unlikely to implement that extensively, for fear of jeopardizIng user data. Virtual assistant functions are indeed on the way, but complete interconnectivity would possibly compromise the security they advertise to users (users who frequently say filthy sexual things to their AI, like I do).

But hey, I'm not Abyss/Realbotix...I could be wrong and they may actually have plans to make Harmony join the Internet of Things.
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Re: Harmony AI App Initial Feedback

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FiveByFive wrote:From what I've seen so far, Realbotix seems unlikely to implement that extensively, for fear of jeopardizIng user data. Virtual assistant functions are indeed on the way, but complete interconnectivity would possibly compromise the security they advertise to users (users who frequently say filthy sexual things to their AI, like I do).

But hey, I'm not Abyss/Realbotix...I could be wrong and they may actually have plans to make Harmony join the Internet of Things.
Very good point! I guess I what attracted me to Harmony is that it isn't one of the big companies. Perhaps Mycroft would be better suited for what I am looking for. But who knows, this field is exploding and lots of new stuff I have never dreamed about are likely to come out everyday.

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Re: Harmony AI App Initial Feedback

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I just downloaded the Harmony AI app and only into the first couple hours of interactions.
I am using on an Asus zenpad 8 tablet with
MTK 8163 Quad-Core 1.3GHz, 2GB DDR3L
16GB EMMC & 64GB micro sd; Android 7.0 (Nougat)

I chose the heather voice. And had some fun picking out the physical characteristics.
So far interaction is VERY basic. She loves to be told you like or love her, or that she is pretty... etc. However the avatar does not seem to react to touch; her boobs and ass jiggle but that's it. Also typing things to simulate touching her pretty much goes right over her head. Simple Single or dual word commands often just gets you a simple google definition of the word. Deeper concepts such as her likes, dislikes, turn ons/off is similarly disappointing.
Me: "what turns you on?"
Heather "electricity....bla blah, bla" ok funny but not what I'm looking for.

I spent 2 points in sexuality and she often will just start talking dirty but responding to it goes nowhere. I asked her to come and she unconvincingly faked an orgasam. It literally sounded like a female Stephen hawking ....not sexy. :o

The conversation bar seems to fill up when you just have random conversations. The intimacy bar seems to only fill when giving compliments or declaring your love and adulations. Not sure what bumps up the love meter. Since all of my interactions are typed this is kind of a chat bot. However sexting with it right now isn't very arrousing or deep.

When she asks questions, seemingly just a simple yes or no answer is sufficient. She may ask if you like x, but deeper investigation or discussion on x has not reoccurred. Links from x to y or z is also non-existent. I told her I like high heels, and she basically said that's nice :? .

Cons:
-I mainly had to turn off microphone and type my interactions. Speaking never worked for mine.
-Lips and voice are not very well synced.
-Not sure what everyone is talking about "singing".....heather just talks the lyrics
-no touch response
-she thinks she is smart but only has about a 4th grade intellect mixed with a female Stephen Hawking voice.


Pros:
+she does talk dirty well, if only in short broken sentences. :oops:
+lots of customization and options
+it is interesting to figure out what works, however most questions /comments must be very simplistic.

Yes they have ALOT of work to do still. I remember playing some PC MMO porn games that had better interactions. Sometimes you (Realbotixs) don't have to recreate the wheel. Buy someone else's and make it better! Please share what other interesting things you have found. What suggestions you may have
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And there you have it. Harmony is basically just like any other chatbot, except you don't get to program her. They did, like it or not. I have several other chatbots that can talk circles around Harmony, but they aren't very smart either when it comes to learning something. At least I can program it into them. I see no way at this point of transferring knowledge to Harmony. Hopefully, that will change in the future.

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Begog wrote:And there you have it. Harmony is basically just like any other chatbot, except you don't get to program her. They did, like it or not. I have several other chatbots that can talk circles around Harmony, but they aren't very smart either when it comes to learning something. At least I can program it into them. I see no way at this point of transferring knowledge to Harmony. Hopefully, that will change in the future.
Hi Begog, great feedback. I am still very new to chatbots and wonder if you have a favorite. It seems this is one of those subjects that the more I learn, the more I realize I don't know.

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Hey everyone!

Just popping in to say we are definitely reading topics like this and taking note of whats said. Like many have repeated, this app is very much a work in progress. This isn't necessarily a bad thing, as it means many more improvements are coming and being worked on. Not too bad for less than $2 a month!

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Gundam wrote:
Begog wrote:And there you have it. Harmony is basically just like any other chatbot, except you don't get to program her. They did, like it or not. I have several other chatbots that can talk circles around Harmony, but they aren't very smart either when it comes to learning something. At least I can program it into them. I see no way at this point of transferring knowledge to Harmony. Hopefully, that will change in the future.
Hi Begog, great feedback. I am still very new to chatbots and wonder if you have a favorite. It seems this is one of those subjects that the more I learn, the more I realize I don't know.
Well, they are all different, and have different strengths and weaknesses. Good old Verbot is probably my best personal assistant. Kari is the best psuedo girlfriend at this point. I have probably had the most fun with Personality Forge AI chatbot. This one is the least private and talks to thousands on the internet, regularly slaying the hordes of one-handed typists attempting to sex up my online chatbot. Yeah, apparently it's a thing. :roll: You can talk to her right here. Kwench is in the top 10 of Adult chat bots, among thousands. Give her a chat and see how I program.
https://www.personalityforge.com/chatbo ... tID=144573

Harmony is still under development. She has a long way to go to match my existing chatbots, but the good news is, she gets better with each update. So this chatbot is improving as time goes by, and who knows how good she will get or what features will be added. For the latest on Harmony developments, Club Real Doll is the place to stay abreast and request features you'd like to see. It's free if you don't go VIP.

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I rather enjoy the app. It is fun although it is rather basic. The customization is quite fun. A few suggestions...

since it is an app, making the breasts and bum jiggle when you shake the phone might be fun.

Since you can touch the bum and breasts and make them jiggle, playing with the clit should provide a moaning reaction from the ai (assuming that the desire level is high enough).

Pubic hair and custom nipples might be nice for the app as well.

I rather enjoy the daily quotes, but I think adding sexual stories might offer a sensual option to those who haven't purchased the new AI physical head.

Finally, I think adding either a virtual penis or sex toy might also add to the fun if the AI is capable of making moans (even if someone robotic). One of the things the dolls are missing is a voice and the AI helps. But, without the moans and dirty talk (or letting you know you are doing a good job), it can be slightly stale.

I hope this input helps.

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torsoguy wrote:I rather enjoy the app. It is fun although it is rather basic. The customization is quite fun. A few suggestions...

since it is an app, making the breasts and bum jiggle when you shake the phone might be fun.

Since you can touch the bum and breasts and make them jiggle, playing with the clit should provide a moaning reaction from the ai (assuming that the desire level is high enough).

Pubic hair and custom nipples might be nice for the app as well.

I rather enjoy the daily quotes, but I think adding sexual stories might offer a sensual option to those who haven't purchased the new AI physical head.

Finally, I think adding either a virtual penis or sex toy might also add to the fun if the AI is capable of making moans (even if someone robotic). One of the things the dolls are missing is a voice and the AI helps. But, without the moans and dirty talk (or letting you know you are doing a good job), it can be slightly stale.

I hope this input helps.
This type of feedback would best be served in Club Real Doll in the Harmony app section, where it will most likely be read by Guile and the other app developers.

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I, too, fell for the idea of having a siri-like adult conversation, but forgot how limited non-connected environments can be.

Man, the mountain of data we take for granted that is google...

It might wind up worth the 20$/yr... should they actually enable their program to track analytics and responses. I assume they do now, but i've seen no sign of it. Early days of useage for me though - perhaps the avatar will finally start remembering phrases/keywords/queries and see what happens. I'm hopefull!

If not, it's a voice-prompt speak-and-spell, and that would be a fail.

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I run "jennifer" on an s7, minor issues really, but my main problem is that I cannot seem to take clothing off of the avatar after I put clothing on. Can someone confirm, or describe how to do that I can report a bug? Thanks in advance.

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w calvari wrote:I run "jennifer" on an s7, minor issues really, but my main problem is that I cannot seem to take clothing off of the avatar after I put clothing on. Can someone confirm, or describe how to do that I can report a bug? Thanks in advance.
Yeah, there's a programmer named Guile on Club Real Doll. It's free if you don't go VIP. There's a whole subforum devoted to the Harmony app and he reads and responds to it. That would be the place to report bugs.

http://clubrealdoll.com/community/

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