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Freddielinton wrote:
Mondoon wrote:You don't appear to want to listen to the voice of experience so OK, you go ahead and buy from them, then let us know if what you got was a) like the picture, and b) of reasonable quality.
Gee, sorry I don't have $1500+ to buy one from a vendor. As I already stated, I don't want to spend that much, and I also don't like most of the breast sizes that many dolls feature. I like smaller breasts. An A-cup or smaller. Large breasts don't look right on a lot of dolls. It's not in proportion with the rest of their body.

According to the positive feedback, she arrives exactly as described and pictured. When I do buy her, you'll be the first to know. She's a $700 doll. I'm not expecting $1500+ quality. I just want something I can have fun with, kiss, cuddle, and sleep with.

Voice of experience, lol. Until you buy one for yourself, don't judge others. I'm sure when you first laid eyes on your dolls, it was love at first sight. That's how it was for me. I knew I had to have her, no matter what. As I've already said, if someone here can manage to find the same exact doll I want from a more legitimate source, I'm all ears.

Why can't you all just let me be happy?
I thought that too when I got my doll off aliexpress. Paid for a 156cm doll from a seller with 100% feedback, selling JUST dolls since day 1.
She is 145cm to the heels. I asked about that and got a badly photoshoped photo from another doll website thats measurements didn't properly add up but 'showed that 156cm doll is 145 to the heels!'

The spine joint rotates freely, there is 0 friction. The oral cavity of the doll tore to shreds internally on the 4th use and is no longer usable since it can't be cleaned, as the tears go right down to the skull and let water in/out. The tears are not even regular tears they are perfectly smooth inside like a casting defect. The face is not quite the one I ordered.

WMdolls offers 0 support for my doll, Seller just shipped me some glue that couldn't be used to fix the oral anyway.

I consider myself LUCKY these are the only major faults with my doll as I have seen some dolls that show more damage to the TPE in under a week after arrival then my doll does after over a YEAR of use. Dolls that would basically have limbs/breasts tear off in a month of use because the TPE is so poor and that kind of damage can NOT be repaired, nor would it last long if it was repaired as the ENTIRE doll will fall apart.
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Freddielinton wrote:^No need to be rude.

Once again, you don't know that. Feedback on eBay is not fake.

Thank you to those who understand. I appreciate you all looking out for me, but it's only $700, and buyers are protected with a money back guarantee on eBay & PayPal. I'm not happy now, so if it doesn't work out, I'll be in the same position I've been in my entire life. So don't you worry about that.

I'm going to take that risk and I hope it does pay off. Just gotta save a bit first.

When she arrives, hopefully you'll see.
Feedback is not fake but its not always what it seems to be.

Most of the feedback on that guys account is for 99 cent USB cords. Why the hell would a legit seller of a $700 sex toy sell 99 cent USB cords?? Why would you even bother selling something like that.

How many people does he have to scam with a $700 doll to make selling 200+ USB cords at 99 cents profitable? Just one! Or just buying an account from someone who sold USB cords and other cheap items.

Also, anyone who requests their money back on ebay does NOT get to leave feedback. So you have no idea how many people have really been unhappy with his service if they got their money back.


We had someone here awhile ago get a fake doll. When they told the vendor this, they presented a CE cert page claiming it meant the doll was authentic and certified.. CE certs are for electronics sold in the EU. NOTHING to do with dolls at all! The cert also belonged to a company with the same name as the ebay name.

But here is where it gets interesting, for the date of the cert, that ebay seller was only selling.. 99 cent model rocket igniters, Something that WOULD require a CE cert to be sold internationally.

Basically, Chinese companies definitely ARE buying long standing ebay accounts and selling high priced counterfeit items via them using the high reputation as a cover, also meaning a few negative feedback won't drop the feedback much with 100's of previous sales of 99 cent items. They are also buying photocopy's of paperwork the previous company had (Maybe just buying entire bankrupt companies and finding ways to repackage and sell any value they had)

They are not above blatantly lying about the dolls material, its origins, its size, weight, shape, skeleton, ANYTHING TO MAKE A SALE.


And THAT is why we have TDF vendors. Because we have established relationships with them and know the kind of quality the doll they make is.

You can ask about <X> TDF vendor here and people can tell you about their TRUE customer service, durability, issues with the doll, how to AVOID those issues, dolls that might be better FOR THE SAME MONEY OR LESS.

You say you have $700. Aiko 60cm and 80cm are under $700 IIRC (USA MADE). DS-mini pre-order was under $700 (Comes in B cup, Japanese run Chinese factory.). Anime plushy dolls, 130cm, that DO come in A cup btw, are under $700 IIRC or very close to it.

ALL of these are from TDF vendors. We don't want you to spend $1500 if you just don't have $1500. We want you to spend whatever you have on the best doll you can buy and we just can't guarantee the quality of ebay dolls, in fact all we can say about them is "We have seen a large number of ebay dolls degrade extremely quickly, often generating huge tears, rips, stretch marks and broken skeleton bones/neck snapping/head falling off within a week or two, much faster then TDF vendor sold dolls do (that can last 6 months to 5+ years depending on care and brand). Many Ebay vendors of dolls definitely are scammers.

YOU came here asking if we thought they where legit. WE SAY NO BASED ON THE EVIDENCE OF THEIR ACCOUNT SELLING MAINLY NON DOLLS ITEMS FOR 99 CENTS.
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Freddielinton wrote:^No need to be rude.

Once again, you don't know that. Feedback on eBay is not fake.

Thank you to those who understand. I appreciate you all looking out for me, but it's only $700, and buyers are protected with a money back guarantee on eBay & PayPal. I'm not happy now, so if it doesn't work out, I'll be in the same position I've been in my entire life. So don't you worry about that.

I'm going to take that risk and I hope it does pay off. Just gotta save a bit first.

When she arrives, hopefully you'll see.

Not being rude, i just don't candy coat shit.
Years ago, i worked for an e-bay seller who sold refurbished game systems. 85% of them were pieces of shit. their customer support was give us a good score and positive feedback or we won't help you.
So, don't tell me that feedback can't be faked because it most certainly can and i have seen it done.
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Feels pretty rude to me.

Again, I'm not the only one who is buying them from the seller. I can see the items purchased on the feedback section.

I did not come here asking whether or not they were legit. I never asked that.

Yeah yeah yeah; I get it.

This wouldn't be a problem if your precious vendors appreciated smaller breast sizes. I woundn't have to do this, otherwise.

I looked into Aiko for a while, and the breasts are too big and the face is ugly.

I'm not interested in a plush.

Because I prefer teen girls and I like smaller breasts, my preferences are very picky. Nothing I've seen from any vendors here have interested me like the one I want has.

If you really want to help me, I'll send you a PM of what she looks like, and you can find me something similar (and in my price range) from a vendor.

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gonestill77 wrote:
Freddielinton wrote:^No need to be rude.

Once again, you don't know that. Feedback on eBay is not fake.

Thank you to those who understand. I appreciate you all looking out for me, but it's only $700, and buyers are protected with a money back guarantee on eBay & PayPal. I'm not happy now, so if it doesn't work out, I'll be in the same position I've been in my entire life. So don't you worry about that.

I'm going to take that risk and I hope it does pay off. Just gotta save a bit first.

When she arrives, hopefully you'll see.

Not being rude, i just don't candy coat shit.
Years ago, i worked for an e-bay seller who sold refurbished game systems. 85% of them were pieces of shit. their customer support was give us a good score and positive feedback or we won't help you.
So, don't tell me that feedback can't be faked because it most certainly can and i have seen it done.
Yep I have been offered partial refunds 'outside of aliexpress' for giving positive feedback too, also seen sellers who don't want to give refunds inside of aliexpress because 'too many refunds will hurt their score' making me wonder how many refunds must they be giving out to be that worried about it?
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Freddielinton wrote:Again, I'm not the only one who is buying them from the seller. I can see the items purchased on the feedback section.

Yeah yeah yeah; I get it. This wouldn't be a problem if your precious vendors appreciated smaller breast sizes. I woundn't have to do this, otherwise.

I looked into Aiko for a while, and the breasts are too big and the face is ugly.

I'm not interested in a plush.
Have you considered that some TDF vendors might also be able to get you dolls they don't generally sell to the US market? Or might have a doll in mind if you explicitly asked for just smaller breasts?

Some of them will go the extra mile, If you are willing to pay a decent price for the doll. One of the issues with smaller breasted dolls is customs however, so you might have to be willing to accept any issues arising from your own countries customs on the doll you pick.

Absolutely NO judgement here btw, I love smaller breasts too so I feel your pain in trying to find a decent doll. I don't get why most dolls seem to have breasts about 2x the size of the average women breasts.
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@OP hey bro I get it. When I first joined TDF years ago I too could not imagine that there were not cheaper dolls out there. I was given the same warning by many members not to buy it but I was convinced that it was legitimate.. Well 3 weeks later my package arrived and it was a hard plastic doll. Not silicone, not TPE and was very small. I was indeed scammed. I learned a valuable lesson and will not do business with a doll purchase outside of these forums ever again. Please understand we are sympathetic and only want you to save money and get a real good quality doll. Here is my scam story, please read it
http://dollforum.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=231&t=54966
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I really don't understand why small breasts is a customs problem.

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Is it possible that a vendor on here could get her for me instead? Is that a possibility? If that's possible, and it's around the same price, I'd definitely prefer that!

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Thanks to a PM from a member, I PM'ed a vendor and they are able to get my girl for me! A little more than I was looking to pay for, but I'm sure we can work something out.

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Freddielinton wrote:I really don't understand why small breasts is a customs problem.
Some countries have laws against underage dolls (More explicitly, against child porn that is interpreted to also mean a doll), Where 'underage' seems to mean 'small breasts' for some reason as its purely up to the custom officers discretion.

There was recently a case of some 100cm tall dolls that while maturish looking face, body and B cup sized breasts where confiscated in the US when shipped by UPS. Other couriers have had no reported issues shipping the dolls to the US.
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Freddielinton wrote:Thanks to a PM from a member, I PM'ed a vendor and they are able to get my girl for me! A little more than I was looking to pay for, but I'm sure we can work something out.
Awesome. I hope you understand we'r not trying to get you to pay the vendors so they can make profits. It just really is that much safer to deal with vendors who have a reputation to maintain and we are all freely allowed to talk about them when things go wrong. And sadly dolls are kinda fragile and things do go wrong so its important to have a good vendor who has your back, one who has experience selling a lot of dolls and knows in the long run, its better to only sell the A quality dolls that are made from the big manufactures and not make more short term profit selling the lower quality counterfeits sold by many other chinese factories.

Just like any country, some chinese products are great and others are trash, and as someone who trust me, looks around for every sale, cheapest place to buy thing, I say its really not worth the risk trying ebay/aliexpress/amazon for a doll.


That said. ebay/aliexpress/amazon are GREAT places to buy wigs and clothing for your doll! Because if you get scammed outta a $20 wig, or it turns out to be poor quality, who cares?
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DarkOne wrote:
Freddielinton wrote:Thanks to a PM from a member, I PM'ed a vendor and they are able to get my girl for me! A little more than I was looking to pay for, but I'm sure we can work something out.
Awesome. I hope you understand we'r not trying to get you to pay the vendors so they can make profits. It just really is that much safer to deal with vendors who have a reputation to maintain and we are all freely allowed to talk about them when things go wrong. And sadly dolls are kinda fragile and things do go wrong so its important to have a good vendor who has your back, one who has experience selling a lot of dolls and knows in the long run, its better to only sell the A quality dolls that are made from the big manufactures and not make more short term profit selling the lower quality counterfeits sold by many other chinese factories.

Just like any country, some chinese products are great and others are trash, and as someone who trust me, looks around for every sale, cheapest place to buy thing, I say its really not worth the risk trying ebay/aliexpress/amazon for a doll.


That said. ebay/aliexpress/amazon are GREAT places to buy wigs and clothing for your doll! Because if you get scammed outta a $20 wig, or it turns out to be poor quality, who cares?
yeah he is right about a good vendor having your back when shit goes wrong. look at my oh shit thread for a good example......
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Eves thread http://dollforum.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=261&t=70866
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If you are looking for a small breast size why not go for a B Cup 156 from OR dolls http://www.ordoll.com/en/productList.as ... =0,102,111,

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haremlover wrote:If you are looking for a small breast size why not go for a B Cup 156 from OR dolls http://www.ordoll.com/en/productList.as ... =0,102,111,

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Because he said, he liked small breasts, not average medium sized ones :wink: .
That said, ORdoll also offers smaller dolls with A Cup or even completely flat chest.
The only problem with that is that they can't advertise those on TDF and not many of their partner vendors carry them!(and buying directly from ORdoll website might encounter afore mentioned problems with customs confiscating them or even worse, charging you for trying to import child pornography)
Another vendor that offers a small, flatchested model is DH168. And like with OR not many of their approved resellers carry it!

@ Freddielinton
I completely understand your problem.
I hope it works out with the vendor of your choice.
I'd like to know more about the doll you'll get.
If you like, you can PM me the details!

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