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Yeah, for me Dagmar was the obvious choice- I got a Textile after that or about the same time too. In many ways the Textile wins out cause ou can customize it to a large degree. It is also lighter, has more real looking/feeling hands and feet, but the hard head definitely is an issue.
I simply love Dagmar's shape, she's like the type of strong, nicely padded females I prefer. I wish her shoulders are a bit wider and yeah, the silicon head really needs improving.
One squeeze of her breasts and behind though and I was in love lol.
In fact for the most part she sits in a chainr at my piano keyboard, and whenever I walk by I give her a squeeze.

In many ways I really regret getting a 140 TPE doll, though Riza is alot of joy to have sex with. But the small size did take alot to get used to, and it's simply ridiculous trying to find sexy outfits for her.

For Cammy, I can just go crazy on amazon and buy a bunch of sexy stuffs and get free shipping!

If anyone's ever come up and combine the versatility and quality of a Textile with the construction and mechanics of a Dagmar, and put on a proper TPE/silicon head, that'd be a fabric doll worthy of $1500+.
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Naudia: WM168-G cup BBW:
https://tinyurl.com/yxuedyac

Stephanie: Pipedreams Ultimate Fantasy Kitty:
https://tinyurl.com/yykyfv84

Hope: Starpery BBW Big Amy:
https://tinyurl.com/st95yuxj

Jewel: BBW Textile Doll:
https://tinyurl.com/y2pw6rf5

Cammy: Dagmar doll from Beautiful Dolls:
https://tinyurl.com/y2xqvhdn

Sarah: Pipedreams Ultimate Fantasy Mia doll:
https://tinyurl.com/y4dyv8nx

Oceania: Valentina Girls Palomina BBW doll:
https://tinyurl.com/y5yzvb3b

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Re: My Cammy diary and running review. (Dagmar doll from BD)

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privatetai wrote:Yeah, for me Dagmar was the obvious choice- I got a Textile after that or about the same time too. In many ways the Textile wins out cause ou can customize it to a large degree. It is also lighter, has more real looking/feeling hands and feet, but the hard head definitely is an issue.
I simply love Dagmar's shape, she's like the type of strong, nicely padded females I prefer. I wish her shoulders are a bit wider and yeah, the silicon head really needs improving.
One squeeze of her breasts and behind though and I was in love lol.
In fact for the most part she sits in a chainr at my piano keyboard, and whenever I walk by I give her a squeeze.

In many ways I really regret getting a 140 TPE doll, though Riza is alot of joy to have sex with. But the small size did take alot to get used to, and it's simply ridiculous trying to find sexy outfits for her.

For Cammy, I can just go crazy on amazon and buy a bunch of sexy stuffs and get free shipping!

If anyone's ever come up and combine the versatility and quality of a Textile with the construction and mechanics of a Dagmar, and put on a proper TPE/silicon head, that'd be a fabric doll worthy of $1500+.
I guess from a tactile feel point of view...I would agree the body of the Textile Doll is better for the nicer hands and feet, but in my case, I usually have dry hands in the winter and I do worry about getting snags on the hands and feet, just alone from carrying the doll. So more than likely, unless it is a photo shoot, she is always going to wear some kind of footie or gloves on her hands. Since I am one to run my hands up and down arms and legs these are areas that I have to protect the most. I have a pair of really nice stretchy shoulder length opera gloves coming in the mail. So these will protect her whole arm (minus the shoulder) and they look hot!

I was put off by the Textile Doll heads. I don't like them at all. Even with the shortcomings the Silicone head of the Dagmar doll has, it is still a more pleasant face. The 140cm Happy Doll does have an improved version of the Dagmar head. The eyebrows are nicer and also she has a little bit of a smile. Really cute! But if worse comes to worse, I could always order the Anime head later on. While I am not much into anime girls. There is one that can raise my blood pressure...Miku Hatsune. Dagmar with an anime head with teal colored eyes is a shoe in for Miku. Miku also dresses in outfits that I love anyway. So this is an alternative route to go down and I am prepared for it, should the case be.

You sound the same way I do in that I have a love for broad shouldered women. Before I found Dagmar I was ready to with a silicone Z-Onedoll that I really fell for. She was 160cm tall, b cup a 40cm shoulder span...nearly as wide as my own wife's shoulders. That is pretty good for a doll. And collarbones galore. I love collarbones! The face was A5 'Mirabelle'. Very Asian/American mix with a beautiful brunette bob hairstyle. (Bobs are my favorite hairstyle on Asian women). The deal killer was her weight at 35kg. At 160cm, she did fit into the US size of XS and S. So buying clothing for her wouldn't have been a problem either. In a way, when I was looking at the 150cm 6YE doll, I cringed when I saw she only had a 32cm shoulder span. That is too child like for me. For me it has to be over 34cm in the least. Thankfully Dagmar is a respectable 37cm, in fact just 3cm shy of the Z-Onedoll I was looking at.

Yes, I have heard about the silicone implants in the breasts and I believe also the butt...so the doll is more squeezable. That is a bonus! I think too, Dagmar is one of the very few dolls out there you have a choice on the breast size.

Ahhh, so you have a piano playing partner, huh? That is also nice. If you have a fireplace, cuddling up in front of that should be nice too. I don't have one...yet. But I am hoping one day I will get a house that has one. Two things the next house HAS to have is a fireplace and a BIG front porch!

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Re: My Cammy diary and running review. (Dagmar doll from BD)

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Yeah I was actually hoping that Cammy's head would work on my Textile doll Jewel, but alas, no luck there- the neck joint is too long on Textile dolls for this to work.

I'm currently thinking, maybe, get one of those Pipedream Fuck My Face head masturbators, see if I can convert it to work for either of these fabric ladies. But that's like a $200+ risk I'm not sure if it's worth taking at this point.

Another thought I had was to save up for one of those full body silicone suits, cause if you put one of those on a fabric doll, you'd almost end up with the feel of silicone combined with the lightweight of a fabric doll, but again, that's alot of money to gamble on an "maybe this will work."
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Meet my girls:

Naudia: WM168-G cup BBW:
https://tinyurl.com/yxuedyac

Stephanie: Pipedreams Ultimate Fantasy Kitty:
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Hope: Starpery BBW Big Amy:
https://tinyurl.com/st95yuxj

Jewel: BBW Textile Doll:
https://tinyurl.com/y2pw6rf5

Cammy: Dagmar doll from Beautiful Dolls:
https://tinyurl.com/y2xqvhdn

Sarah: Pipedreams Ultimate Fantasy Mia doll:
https://tinyurl.com/y4dyv8nx

Oceania: Valentina Girls Palomina BBW doll:
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privatetai wrote:Yeah I was actually hoping that Cammy's head would work on my Textile doll Jewel, but alas, no luck there- the neck joint is too long on Textile dolls for this to work.
Supposedly there is a silicone doll manufacturer that has a similar neck post system, and I think their heads can work on Happy Dolls with little to no modification. The trouble is that each head costs as much as an entire Dagmar and they are not that great looking.
I'm currently thinking, maybe, get one of those Pipedream Fuck My Face head masturbators, see if I can convert it to work for either of these fabric ladies. But that's like a $200+ risk I'm not sure if it's worth taking at this point.
Hmmm, still better than the $700+ risk with one of the heads I mentioned above.
Another thought I had was to save up for one of those full body silicone suits, cause if you put one of those on a fabric doll, you'd almost end up with the feel of silicone combined with the lightweight of a fabric doll, but again, that's alot of money to gamble on an "maybe this will work."
Another thing you have to worry about is the grade of silicone used in the suit. If it is one that leeches oil, that woudn't be good to put over a fabric doll.

I came across a thread here in which a fellow wanted to modify a Happy Doll...to cut the neck post down and put a plate on it so it could take WM dolls TPE heads. His idea was quickly shot down because TPE is worse at leeching oils than Silicone. So naturally if the TPE head comes in contact with the fabric...it will be like a wick sopping up the leeching oil and this will most likely stain the entire fabric area around the head. So what would have to be done is some kind of insulating barrier needs to be put in place so that the TPE skin would NEVER come in contact with the fabric skin.

Outside of that, if that were a possibility, I would look into it because WM makes some of the most beautiful heads I have ever seen.

Another thing about fabric dolls such as the Happy Dolls. When I heard that you could feel the collarbones on Dagmar, it had me thinking that if they could create the feel of collarbones under the skin, it had me wondering what else they could mold into the foam beneath the doll. Perhaps more back details, more abdomen details and even arm details. One of the things that really gets my fluids flowing is rubbing my hands up and down the upper arms on a woman that has an athletic build...to feel what is going on beneath the skin. That is amazing! Something you usually do not get from a doll though. But I have heard that some doll manufacturers, do make dolls that look more athletic. I know WM does it as well as JY. The both have dolls that have a slightly muscular build. They do look great, but as with anything that has extra details to make them more realistic, it also adds to the weight of the doll. But with a fabric doll, it wouldn't add much to the weight and it could offer more 'looks' (and feels) to a doll.

Generally, when it comes to real women, I am mostly a neckline guy, followed by the limbs. Boobs don't do much for me really...as long as a woman has them though. I usually prefer B cups myself. I do admit that A cup is a little too flat chested even for my tastes. So ideally between a B and C is more than enough boob for me. The butt I am more variable on...I like them big and small. A larger but and larger hips with a narrow waistline usually means lots of curves and I DO like that. But mostly my eyes home in on the neckline....collarbones, shoulders and arms. I like these in abundance. So broad and very rounded shoulders, long collarbones and defined arms is what gets my goat.

Could I ever 'get off' on a pretty face alone?

Yes. It isn't common, but yes. Women such as Tyra Banks, Vanessa Williams, Rihanna, Lana Parilla, and Sandra Bullock have an attractive enough face that I don't need to see their bodies to get 'excited'. Thus it would be nice to be able to interchange the heads on Happy Dolls to something even more attractive then what is currently offered for them.

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Yeah the collarbones what made me realize that Dagmar unfortunately is a doll that is "almost, but not quite."
Like...WTF, they doen such great work on her cuves, hip, bust, collarbones, and then suddenly you get to the arms and legs and there's hardly any details to speak of, no calves, no elbow/knee details, and the hands and feet are simply ...basic...

She does have a hint of abs, but then lacks ribcage definition and back is pretty uninspiring too.
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Meet my girls:

Naudia: WM168-G cup BBW:
https://tinyurl.com/yxuedyac

Stephanie: Pipedreams Ultimate Fantasy Kitty:
https://tinyurl.com/yykyfv84

Hope: Starpery BBW Big Amy:
https://tinyurl.com/st95yuxj

Jewel: BBW Textile Doll:
https://tinyurl.com/y2pw6rf5

Cammy: Dagmar doll from Beautiful Dolls:
https://tinyurl.com/y2xqvhdn

Sarah: Pipedreams Ultimate Fantasy Mia doll:
https://tinyurl.com/y4dyv8nx

Oceania: Valentina Girls Palomina BBW doll:
https://tinyurl.com/y5yzvb3b

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privatetai wrote:Yeah the collarbones what made me realize that Dagmar unfortunately is a doll that is "almost, but not quite."
Like...WTF, they doen such great work on her cuves, hip, bust, collarbones, and then suddenly you get to the arms and legs and there's hardly any details to speak of, no calves, no elbow/knee details, and the hands and feet are simply ...basic...

She does have a hint of abs, but then lacks ribcage definition and back is pretty uninspiring too.
I only recently found out about the collarbones, but not the abs! That is nice to know. But I agree in that they thought of those details, so why not consider a ribcage outline and definitely shoulder blades and the spine crease down the back? I thought she did have kneecaps as I can see some bump there where the kneecaps would be. But yeah, the arms lack any detail at all. Given that, to protect the skin, I do intend to keep her mostly covered, albeit with very tight, clingy or stretchy clothing.

One thing I got for mine is a Leotard made from that stretchy ribbed material that covers the whole torso and has a mock neck. There are decorative buttons on the long sleeves. It is very form fitting in the body and it is cut high in the legs. I am going to put this over very shiny white pantyhose. I think it will be a hot looking outfit that will protect the whole body. At least it looks hot on the model. One nice feature is that both the leotard and the pantyhose has crotch access. :). Perfect for a quickie!

The material the pantyhose is made from is amazing, it is so smooth. Dagmar has pretty thick thighs so that will be nice indeed!!

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When I first got Cammy I had alot of trouble feeling aroused with her because the "skin" simply feels like...well, fabric and not skin. Now I'm at the point where if I touch her with my fingers/hands, still not very convinced, but with the back of my hands, or when my legs brush up again her thighs in bed, my brain is able to read "skin" from the contact.
But for a blind person, aside from protective purposes, putting clothes and stockings on her seems almost pointless cause there's no real contrust between naked skin and the materials of the garments.
One thing I enjoy greatly with my TPE Riza is when touching her, I get that definite tactile stimulation of bare flesh transitioning to silk or lace.

With that said, when Cammy's dressed in her satin nightgown, she is a joy to hug and cuddle lol.
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Meet my girls:

Naudia: WM168-G cup BBW:
https://tinyurl.com/yxuedyac

Stephanie: Pipedreams Ultimate Fantasy Kitty:
https://tinyurl.com/yykyfv84

Hope: Starpery BBW Big Amy:
https://tinyurl.com/st95yuxj

Jewel: BBW Textile Doll:
https://tinyurl.com/y2pw6rf5

Cammy: Dagmar doll from Beautiful Dolls:
https://tinyurl.com/y2xqvhdn

Sarah: Pipedreams Ultimate Fantasy Mia doll:
https://tinyurl.com/y4dyv8nx

Oceania: Valentina Girls Palomina BBW doll:
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privatetai wrote:When I first got Cammy I had alot of trouble feeling aroused with her because the "skin" simply feels like...well, fabric and not skin. Now I'm at the point where if I touch her with my fingers/hands, still not very convinced, but with the back of my hands, or when my legs brush up again her thighs in bed, my brain is able to read "skin" from the contact.
I guess with me it is different. My wife very rarely wore stocking or pantyhose and when she did...the mere sight just wanted to make me run my hands up and down her legs. Going higher and higher feeling the diameter of her legs get wider as I went higher was enough to do it. I have read that the Happy Dolls 'skin' is very much like pantyhose. So I tried to find some VERY smooth (and shiny) pantyhose to put over her legs, what I received in the mail is amazing feeling. I don't think I will have a problem in terms of the doll's legs, especially with these pantyhose on.

The arms and shoulders might be a different story. Here I am expecting my arms to run down bare skin. Worse, I am used to feeling the arm details beneath the arms on my wife. Being on the slim side, I can see AND feel the muscular movements of her upper arms and shoulders. This is an immediate arousal for me, but a doll doesn't have these 'details' under their skin. I was happy to hear there are collarbone details and often when the lights are out, this is an area (on my wife) that I would run my fingers along. Even if my wife was wearing something tight and I could see and feel her collarbones...that is something that works for me too. Shoulders are a big one for me. I always cup my hands around my wife's shoulders. I am worried this might be a high wear and tear area on the doll. But one thing that is putting off are the seams...due to the construction of the bodysuit that is over the doll, the seems go the opposite way if the natural indentations of the shoulders. I was looking for a bodysuit that would cover the shoulders with no seams and is more of a skin color, so it would at least look better. I think I succeeded in finding one, but I have to wait for it to arrive in the mail.

One feature of the arm I wish the doll would have in terms of details is that indentation you feel where the shoulder muscles meet up with the bicep and tricep muscles. When you grasp a woman by the arms here...as is usually the case when having sex, you can readily feel this indentation (and the associated muscular movements, mainly from the shoulders and triceps). And again this is on a woman that is thinner or reasonably fit. Also, moving down the arm, there is a noticeable indentation in the center of the opposite side of the elbow. The forearm also flares out at this point and then slowly tapers down to the wrist. If they had this detailing on the dolls arms that would certainly make it easier to make the transition to fabric. Running my hands down the arms with a material on such as Lycra or higher grades of polyester really feels nice, almost like silk. But the difference is that poly / Lycra blends can hug the skin tighter than silk. So again it is a matter of feeling the details through the fabric that would be enough.

Just about all the outfits that I am initially buying for the doll are VERY stretchy. This is for two reasons...one I do not have the doll yet, so I been sticking with very stretchy stuff mainly for fit. But also I wanted tight fitting items for look and feel.

You mentioned the lack of back details too. Shoulder blades are another body feature I take a liking to. My wife has enormous shoulder blades (for her size)...in fact on her, she could actually pull her shoulders back and they almost touch. Then there is that indentation that runs down the middle of the back where all the back muscles attach to the spine. Running my finger down that seem and feeling the vertebrae of the spin is an amazing erotic feeling.

I think there is much I am going to miss from going from a real woman to an artificial one. More so with when going from more realistic TPE or Silicone dolls in which many that have these features. Believe it or not, on one of the WM dolls, it has the vertebrae indentations I was talking about. Also I mentioned before about the 'athletic' dolls. For certain, they would have the details I was l mentioning earlier and above.

So for most aspects, the arms are probably not detailed enough on a fabric doll to cause arousal on looks or feel. I am trying to change the prior though by attempting to use clothing details to create an arousing look. For example...I am a nut for open shoulder tops and bell sleeves. Off shoulder tops that expose the entire neckline from shoulder to shoulder are also highly attractive. It is with such a top, I am wondering that if I could angle the ambient light properly on Dagmar's collarbones, perhaps the light could create a 'shadow' on her skin to make the collarbones look more pronounced.

It is all little tricks that I been thinking of to prepare for her arrival and to line up what it is that I KNOW will work.

So the upper body is certainly harder to work with than the lower body. There the details are there. Dagmar has a beautiful butt...I can readily see those details and the body curvatures. Also if my wife ever wore stockings and we became close, I never took them off. So I am already conditioned to stockings when it comes to the legs.
But for a blind person, aside from protective purposes, putting clothes and stockings on her seems almost pointless cause there's no real contrust between naked skin and the materials of the garments.
One thing I enjoy greatly with my TPE Riza is when touching her, I get that definite tactile stimulation of bare flesh transitioning to silk or lace.
Yes, that is very much understood...even with sighted folks. With me it is not so much a problem with the legs. If the stockings are very tight and smooth, it is just the hand gently squeezing around the diameter of the thigh that is enough. But I believe I would be in the same boat with you when it comes to the arms. Here I am expecting to touch bare skin. The fingers wrapping around bare shoulders is amazingly intense. So this is an area where I might have trouble with too.

It did have me wondering that if a a thin and very stretchy layer of latex could be stretched over the underside of the cutouts on a cold shoulder dress (or top) to restore some of that 'skin' feel. It could look and feel more realistic.
With that said, when Cammy's dressed in her satin nightgown, she is a joy to hug and cuddle lol.
I am going to have to get one of these too, but perhaps a 3 piece one as I know if it is a regular loose fitting PJ, that isn't going to do much visually. BUT there are many silk PJ's that are three piece outfits that include a pant bottom, a robe and also a nice sleeveless top.

This is all stuff that is new ground for me. I have never seen or touched a doll in person, so I do not know what one these feel like and I only seen what they looked like from pictures here on the internet.

I do know that when I got that stretchy ribbed leotard yesterday and I was trying to check it for quality and also for stretchiness to determine if it will fit, I know I will like the doll in that outfit. I am not sure if you know what I mean about ribbed outfits. They do feel great under the skin and they are very tactile. Your fingers can run along the curves of the ribs in the outfit as it hugs closely to the curves on your doll. Despite being an outfit that doesn't show skin above the waist, it is still very attractive looking and feeling. But the high cut legs and those shiny pantyhose I am going to put on her underneath is going make the entire outfit that much more enticing. Further, the outfit is a base to layer on. So I could put a skirt on her and also another top over the leotard, creating a completely different looking AND feeling outfit.

But some items...such as a swing dress I bought her, it is made from a very high grade of polyester and it just feels fantastic under the skin, very much like Lycra. I know you can't see pictures and I am not sure if you know what I mean by a swing dress. But basically it is a dress with a high waist line and a skirt that is at knee level. It is often sleeveless, sometimes off shoulder, sometimes a halter. It could even be strapless. It could have an open or closed back. But the common thing to all swing dresses is a pleated skirt that flares out and away from the body in an 'A' shape. Many times these dresses do not do this on their own, but they do flare out a bit on a woman with large hips. But to create the desired effect of the dress flaring away from the body, a petticoat, or under dress is required. This gives the dress a very full taper away from the body. This was a very popular style in the 50's...but the style really never went out. Many women still wear swing dresses today, minus the petticoat.

As I was saying, this particular one I bought has an amazing feeling material. I had a hard time putting the dress down when I first unboxed it. So this could be another type of material that I can associate with 'arousal'.

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In case you didn't read that part, Dagmar's arms and legs don't swivel, so crossed arm/crossed legs poses are no-gos. Don't break her lol.

Yeah the arms throw me off...lol pun...all the time. I can probably live with the material, since I find the Textile doll arms do just fine, but Dagmar's arms and lower legs are almost...tubular without fine details.
Even holding her hands took a long time to get used to.
I actually thought about a latex bodysuit and was researching that when the silicone bodysuits popped into view lol.
One concern with latex is that I remember way back when I tried a latex blow up doll, it really turned me off cause I hated the smell of it lol.
That doll always smelled like...surgical gloves...
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Meet my girls:

Naudia: WM168-G cup BBW:
https://tinyurl.com/yxuedyac

Stephanie: Pipedreams Ultimate Fantasy Kitty:
https://tinyurl.com/yykyfv84

Hope: Starpery BBW Big Amy:
https://tinyurl.com/st95yuxj

Jewel: BBW Textile Doll:
https://tinyurl.com/y2pw6rf5

Cammy: Dagmar doll from Beautiful Dolls:
https://tinyurl.com/y2xqvhdn

Sarah: Pipedreams Ultimate Fantasy Mia doll:
https://tinyurl.com/y4dyv8nx

Oceania: Valentina Girls Palomina BBW doll:
https://tinyurl.com/y5yzvb3b

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privatetai wrote:In case you didn't read that part, Dagmar's arms and legs don't swivel, so crossed arm/crossed legs poses are no-gos. Don't break her lol.
Oh, I didn't miss that part. One of the first things I requested from Joy was a detailed diagram showing the range of motion from the doll. The downside to the drawing is that it is written in Chinese :P. I think the arms can pivot at the shoulder if I am not mistaken. Can they, or do they only go forward back, up and down?

I am assuming that is going to be the same for the legs then as I would assume the hip would have a similar joint to the shoulders so this way the legs would move back to front and in and out, to spread them. One of the things that I read about the fabric dolls is that they can really open up the legs fairly wide, especially in comparison to a TPE or Silicone doll.

I also read from another Dagmar owner that when sleeping with the doll, it is a good idea to pull the arms in and rest the hands on the inside of the legs to protect the arms and hands from an 'accidental rollover'.
Yeah the arms throw me off...lol pun...all the time. I can probably live with the material, since I find the Textile doll arms do just fine, but Dagmar's arms and lower legs are almost...tubular without fine details.
I don't see a difference with the Textile dolls arms and legs, but I guess if you feel a difference that is the main thing then. But I know what you mean about the limbs on Dagmar. The upper leg is very nicely shaped, but then the lower legs and arms are very round. I am wondering if there is perhaps a way to stuff shaped foam down the upper arms of the skin to give them more shape and also to round out the shoulders a bit more. It might be more trouble than it is worth though.

I am not sure if you know about the DS-Dolls Ex-lite. It is a doll made entirely out of PU foam. The foam has moulded details built in very much like a silicone or TPE doll. But the big problem with PU foam is that while it can be compressed, it can't be stretched. Thus the Ex-lite really isn't good for it's intended purpose. But if the foam molding concept was used on the filling for the Happy Dolls, they could be made to be much more realistic looking. It probably just that for Happy Dolls, there may not be a market for them for that as they seem to aim the dolls at those that have an Anime or Hentai fetish. The illustrations for them do depict drawn cartoon characters that do have features that Dagmar and other Happy Dolls possess. So the tubular looking arms and legs, while they don't hit the mark on a realistic level, they are spot on on an Anime level.

My guess is that Happy Dolls is just 'feeling the market' for realistic dolls. I think they could very well be thinking of, or already working on a more realistic looking fabric doll with more details. They do that and offer nicer heads. They could very well charge about $1500 for such a doll as they would get MANY that are interested. I know that may seem a lot for a fabric doll, but consider the advantages over TPE and Silicone. A detailed, realistic looking doll that is MUCH lighter than the aforementioned materials. There could be a potential gold mine there.
Even holding her hands took a long time to get used to.
Yeah, I am wondering about that too. I always love holding my wife's hands and we still do that often. Just meshing fingers. I like to deeply mesh my fingers with her and have that nice tight hand holding feeling. Of course a doll can't do that, but it is a possibility you can get close. I don't know. I have to see for myself once I get her. When sleeping I would spoon behind my wife and drape my arm around her then held her hand. Something I have to try once I get the doll.
I actually thought about a latex bodysuit and was researching that when the silicone bodysuits popped into view lol.
One concern with latex is that I remember way back when I tried a latex blow up doll, it really turned me off cause I hated the smell of it lol. That doll always smelled like...surgical gloves...
I have no experience with latex dolls and frankly I would have never went down that road (using a blow up latex doll). As it is, I am a bit leery about sacrificing details going with a fabric doll. But as realistic as they might be, the TPE and Silicone dolls just seemed to require too much maintenance. They were heavy and they could easily be damaged. In the case of the TPE dolls I was told they had a significantly less of a lifespan than the Silicone dolls at about 5 or 6 years. So I was shocked to learn that. So for the money I was spending, more and more doll ownership seemed like it was more work than play, it was a big investment and I might end up pulling my back out because of the weight.

But then there was a light at the end of the tunnel when I stumbled upon a fellow that had a different kind of doll, a Teddy Babe. While I didn't care for them in particular...it did open up the door to fabric dolls in general. After the Teddy Babes, I was directed to the Textile Doll site. They were better, but not what I was really looking for. Then I heard about Beautiful Dolls and the Happy Doll line. Even though the dolls were Anime and cartoonish...they had a more appealing look to me. As I was researching them, I was told to look for or ask for the realistic silicone head. I saw a 140cm doll with a silicone head and my eyebrows raised and I said, "This is it." But 140cm was too short. But I found out the whole line has a silicone head option and it turned out that I liked the tallest one, Dagmar the best.

I did a ton of research on the doll thereafter and it just became clear that in terms over overall value, size, and maintenance, Dagmar (and the other Happy Dolls) was the best route to go.

Actually I was VERY close to getting a DS-doll Ex-lite because they are more realistic looking, but I was told time and time again, the doll has a huge shortcoming and that is it is not really built well enough to have sex with. So they dropped the price on them drastically. I think you can get a DS-doll Ex-lite directly from the company for $435. It is still a fantastic deal since they originally wanted to doll to sell in the $1000 to $1200 range. But really, who is going to buy a sex doll you can't have sex with? So it is more like a photography / cuddle doll. I had thought about getting one, and modifying it so it is more sturdy for sex and will not get torn up so easily. But doing that would alter the doll's mid section drastically and to the point where you can't take nude pictures of it. But I am fine with that. It is certainly an idea and might be a good project since there is the low cost involved.

Another project would be to see if the Ex-lite head could be modified to fit on Dagmar's body. The Ex-lite head is FAR more detailed than the Happy Dolls realistic silicone head.

All in all, I am just hoping that 'getting to know each other' phase goes smoothly between myself and the doll. If it does and I end up going nuts over her as is AND she holds up for a few years, then OK, I consider my money well spent.

She supposed to arrive around December 8th which is a few days before my vacation. I have thought of a few names to give her, but I have not decided on one yet.

Have a good evening!

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Re: My Cammy diary and running review. (Dagmar doll from BD)

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. I think the arms can pivot at the shoulder if I am not mistaken. Can they, or do they only go forward back, up and down?

Yep they pivot outward nicely.
I don't see a difference with the Textile dolls arms and legs, but I guess if you feel a difference that is the main thing then.

My textile was customized to my specs so she's probably a bit more detailed than what's shown. The details are not very fine, but especially her forearms and wrists definitely got more definition. However, Dagmar got Textile beat on the well shaped shoulders and collarbones cause I'm not sure why but Jewel, my Textile, just looks/feels...weird across the shoulders.
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Meet my girls:

Naudia: WM168-G cup BBW:
https://tinyurl.com/yxuedyac

Stephanie: Pipedreams Ultimate Fantasy Kitty:
https://tinyurl.com/yykyfv84

Hope: Starpery BBW Big Amy:
https://tinyurl.com/st95yuxj

Jewel: BBW Textile Doll:
https://tinyurl.com/y2pw6rf5

Cammy: Dagmar doll from Beautiful Dolls:
https://tinyurl.com/y2xqvhdn

Sarah: Pipedreams Ultimate Fantasy Mia doll:
https://tinyurl.com/y4dyv8nx

Oceania: Valentina Girls Palomina BBW doll:
https://tinyurl.com/y5yzvb3b

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Re: My Cammy diary and running review. (Dagmar doll from BD)

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privatetai wrote:. I think the arms can pivot at the shoulder if I am not mistaken. Can they, or do they only go forward back, up and down?
I don't have my doll yet so I am not sure. The diagram isn't clear either. But given the poses I have seen you, and others put the doll in, I do thing there might be a pivot joint a the shoulder to swing the arm to and from the body. That being said, a cross arm pose would be possible, but not realistic if you can't pivot the hands. The instructions ARE clear on that that the hands only pivot up and down. The feet are the same too. Thank goodness they can do that as I heard on earlier Happy Doll versions, the feet didn't pivot up and down and that made it impossible for the doll to wear heels.
Yep they pivot outward nicely.
A forward and back movement and a towards the body and away from the body movement are given on the diagram. I know there isn't an arm twisting motion given, but with many dolls there is a pivot joint at the shoulder to swing the lower arm towards and away from the body. But don't hold me to that...it probably would be best to ask Joy at Beautiful Dolls. If anyone knows best about the dolls it would be her. I do know enough that if there is a good resistance to such a movement...more than likely the doll was not meant to move that way. I am definitely going to ebb on the side of safety. While it does seem like the Happy Dolls have a good skeleton, it sounds like they are made (in part) out of plastic....probably to keep the weight down. But being plastic, it isn't as durable at the metal skeletons that are in more expensive Silicone and TPE dolls.

The limitation does put a damper on what you could do in terms of poses on a photo shoot, but again, I would ebb on the side of safety and rather have a doll with functioning limbs rather than broken ones.
I don't see a difference with the Textile dolls arms and legs, but I guess if you feel a difference that is the main thing then.

My textile was customized to my specs so she's probably a bit more detailed than what's shown. The details are not very fine, but especially her forearms and wrists definitely got more definition.
Oh really? I am curious as to what you had done? More so, could you put up some pictures of the doll as I have not seen your Textile Doll as of yet, only Dagmar. You are one of the few that have a Dagmar with the silicone head.

One detail I really like which I would like to see on dolls is how the elbow joint area is formed and the forearm taper. Most dolls, even TPE and Silicone dolls look very unnatural in this area, especially when the arms bend.
However, Dagmar got Textile beat on the well shaped shoulders and collarbones cause I'm not sure why but Jewel, my Textile, just looks/feels...weird across the shoulders.
You would be correct. On the Textile Dolls I CAN see their collarbones, but they are FAR too high up and they slope upwards. On a real woman and on most realistic sex dolls the collarbones curve down a bit towards the base of the neck. The shoulder, on the other hand, slopes up on the neck because of the trapezius muscles on the back. On a more athletic woman, these muscles are often more pronounced than usual and it does give the appearance of broader shoulders. I know most guys do not like this as they think it looks to masculine. They like dainty, narrow and not very sloping shoulders. I am different in that aspect. I like a slightly stronger look to the shoulders as it frames out the collarbones better. Also when holding a woman by the shoulders, I like to feel some meat there. Tiny scrawny shoulders don't cut it for me. This is the one thing that I actually liked about the Teddy Babes. They have nice thick arms and broad shoulders. They have wide hips too. But the waistline is unnaturally narrow on them. I am going to say that had I not found out about Dagmar, I might have fallen back on a Teddy Babe, even though the lack of realism is quite the deterant with them.

I am just shocked at the Teddy Babe deluxe price. They are only 1" taller than Dagmar and they are far less realistic than her...yet, TB charges a whopping $950 for their taller, deluxe dolls. That figure would have had me sitting on the fence about getting a smaller Silicone doll. But thankfully I found out about Dagmar and I must say that for a fabric doll, she comes with some realistic detailing. In one photo I was able to see the collarbone detailing on the fabric skin and it looks to be correctly shaped.

Now just as I like collarbones on the neckline of a woman, I like to see shoulder blades on the back. That being said, I saw the back zipper these dolls have and I am wondering if one could use thin foam and shape it like shoulder blades and slip it beneath the skin and somehow adhere it to the existing foam beneath the skin. This would certainly give the doll more back detailing.

It does seem like there is much more room to improve with a fabric doll and given how stretchy and form fitting the 'skin' is on them, I believe much more detailing could be molded into these dolls.

I will know more when I receive mine. But initially I will be content with her and most of the visual stimulus would be through the various combinations of the sexy clothing items I bought / will by her.

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Re: My Cammy diary and running review. (Dagmar doll from BD)

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Oh really? I am curious as to what you had done? More so, could you put up some pictures of the doll as I have not seen your Textile Doll as of yet, only Dagmar. You are one of the few that have a Dagmar with the silicone head.


http://dollforum.com/forum/viewtopic.ph ... 96&start=0
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Naudia: WM168-G cup BBW:
https://tinyurl.com/yxuedyac

Stephanie: Pipedreams Ultimate Fantasy Kitty:
https://tinyurl.com/yykyfv84

Hope: Starpery BBW Big Amy:
https://tinyurl.com/st95yuxj

Jewel: BBW Textile Doll:
https://tinyurl.com/y2pw6rf5

Cammy: Dagmar doll from Beautiful Dolls:
https://tinyurl.com/y2xqvhdn

Sarah: Pipedreams Ultimate Fantasy Mia doll:
https://tinyurl.com/y4dyv8nx

Oceania: Valentina Girls Palomina BBW doll:
https://tinyurl.com/y5yzvb3b

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Re: My Cammy diary and running review. (Dagmar doll from BD)

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privatetai wrote:Oh really? I am curious as to what you had done? More so, could you put up some pictures of the doll as I have not seen your Textile Doll as of yet, only Dagmar. You are one of the few that have a Dagmar with the silicone head.


http://dollforum.com/forum/viewtopic.ph ... 96&start=0
I took a quick look and I say there are certain pluses (and some minus') to the Textile Doll. For one, MY she is a biggie! She has a little too much girth for my liking...but one area I cannot complain is her arms. I WISH Dagmar would have arms along those lines. I DO see a forearm taper too. So I am giving a couple thumbs up on the arms as they look nice and thick. As I mentioned before, I am fine with small breasted women and for the size of the butt, Dagmar comes in at a perfect level there.

One thing though that Textile does that beats ANY doll I have seen so far (except perhaps RealDoll)...multi-digit fingers. That is the first time I seen that on any doll. Now I know what you mean about the hand details. I do agree that the norm for TPE and Silicone dolls are those wiggly fingers with the thin wires that you KNOW are going to break and poke through the skin. I think DS-Dolls (Silicone) and 6YE (TPE) have addressed the problem using a better system, but it is still not individual digits. Also, fingernails! Not expected on a Fabric doll.

The face is on par with Dagmar. Same issue though, very unnaturally high eyebrows. Also the head is where I was turned off by Textile Doll. When I heard it was hard plastic, that was it. I am going to say though, the makeup around the eye area does look better than Dagmar.

As I read the post, I had a funny feeling that Dagmar would win out in terms of how the breasts and butt feels due to the silicone implants. But the Textile Doll has nicer nipples on the boobs.

One thing is that your Jewel definitely has back! Cue 'Big Butts' song:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X1xhro-zPuc

However, there was one thing that stopped me in my tracks when I was reading your write up on Jewel....There is another doll maker that makes a compatible silicone head for Textile Doll?!?!?!

I followed the link that was there and went right to the heads:

http://privateislandbeauties.com/faces/index.do

Overall I wasn't too impressed with them, but a handful of them do look better than the Dagmar head and I am certain these would be an improvement over the plastic head that Textile Doll offers. But whoa! Over $700 for just the head? That is pretty pricey. There is ONE head out of that lot that I DO like very much... Bottom Left corner, 'Mina'. I am feeling that head and speaking of feeling heads...that one does oral too.

Now from what I gather by your explanation, it sounds like that Jewel has nearly the same kind of head / neck system that Dagmar has? Do you know if they are interchangeable? (Meaning can you swap Jewel's head with Dagmar's?). If you can swap them, then it would be true that the Private Island Beauties head will also fit Dagmar.

That being said, given that Mina head is so beautiful AND it has oral capability, it just MIGHT be worth the investment. The eyebrow shape on this head is amazing. Further...I can see freckles. Some of the expressions this face can do is not like what I have seen on other silicone or TPE dolls. The tongue looks articulated. And the lips??!?!?!? This is definitely a kissing face.

I know you cannot see her, but I am going to post the link here for you anyway:

http://privateislandbeauties.com/faces/mina_open.do#

The head is VERY pretty. Perhaps a friend could describe her details to you. But putting it bluntly, this is a face that has a mouth you want to kiss.

The only thing that I cannot figure out is if these Private Island Beauties heads have oral capability, how are they doing it given the way the head mounts to the neck. From the sound of it based on that link in your thread, the PIB dolls have the same mounting system as both Textile Doll and Happy Doll.

I am wondering if you could do me the favor though and see if you can switch the heads on Jewel and Cammy. I would like to know if the neck mount is the same size. If so...then I think I am saving up for that Mina head.

Crap! I better stop looking at that face otherwise I am going to want it too much! LOL!

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Lol yeah, I've had a BBW fever for the last...8 years, so I got Jewel talored after the BBW porn star April Flores and the guy came through with that...her butt is amazing!
Unfortunately, after being spoiled by the tits on Cammy, Jewel's tits, big as they are, just can't compare in the sensation department.

I did try to switch the head and sadly, nope not going to work.
Textile doll's neck post is almost twice the length of Dagmar's, so while the head technically fits, she neds up looking rather scary with a super long neck lol.

Unfortunately, I can't really justify paying $700 for a head! lol that's well on the way to get a full size TPE doll!

I got quoted $1300 by a source I trust on aliexpress for a CLM160 CM doll. Even a regular CLM160 would usually be at around $2000 only, so the thought of spending a quarter of that on just a new head, it just doesn't slice for this poor boy lol.

Actually, I'm pretty sure if I can somehow loosen up the neck bolt on the head for my TPE, it'd fit on Dagmar fine- cause the size of the bolt looks exactly the same.
When I first got my TPE, I had a choice to have the neck bolt on the neck stomp, or base of the head.
Stupid here decided it's better to have that secured tight on the base of the head for some reason I can't remember now, so now the bloody thing won't come free...lol I need to go get me a monkeywrench for this crap!

But yes, that hard head on Textile...it's just a design flaw that's hard to get used to. I guess the advantage of that is you can actually adjust her eyes via levers inside the head, so kinda an interesting feature.
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Meet my girls:

Naudia: WM168-G cup BBW:
https://tinyurl.com/yxuedyac

Stephanie: Pipedreams Ultimate Fantasy Kitty:
https://tinyurl.com/yykyfv84

Hope: Starpery BBW Big Amy:
https://tinyurl.com/st95yuxj

Jewel: BBW Textile Doll:
https://tinyurl.com/y2pw6rf5

Cammy: Dagmar doll from Beautiful Dolls:
https://tinyurl.com/y2xqvhdn

Sarah: Pipedreams Ultimate Fantasy Mia doll:
https://tinyurl.com/y4dyv8nx

Oceania: Valentina Girls Palomina BBW doll:
https://tinyurl.com/y5yzvb3b

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