The choice. That difficult decision . . .

haremlover · Post by **haremlover** » Fri Jan 30, 2015 5:55 pm

brigittes hubbie wrote:Hi harem, Fabienne is the 158 + as she shares her body with Laurence and Emanuelle. I personally like the + a lot as with the softer skin it makes her bigger boobs soft and cuddly. I really love it.

Thanks greatly - I thought she was the plus. Bearing in mind that the soft silicone is a response to competition with the elasticity and extraordinarily sensual qualities of TPE, is the silicone of the plus boobs soft and elastic and large enough to bring together pleasurably to enclose whatever one might like to put between them?

Rick - thanks for turning up those 161 photos

She's utterly elegant!

I turned up old announcement pages on the Chinese forum and found some droolworthy photos - but possibly the Arte Tokio site has more naked ones . . .
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161

and in comparison OLD 158 Helen (not Alisa)

Nikita:

NEW 158 Nanase

Best wishes

Harem

coleridge · Post by **coleridge** » Fri Jan 30, 2015 6:10 pm

Harem - I assume the pics I've attached below are the 160 and 160 plus respectively? If so, the 160 plus breasts look great - whereas those on the 160 look a little odd around the side-boob area. A few more picks of the 160 plus boobs - especially from the side - could win me over completely! Also, is the 161 simply another name for the 160 plus - or is it a different doll?

EDIT: Just noticed the red "161" above that batch of pics, so I guess they are the 160+. Also, just been looking at more 160+ pics on the DS site (with the Kayla head) which have pretty much convinced me that this is now top of my shortlist.

haremlover · Post by **haremlover** » Fri Jan 30, 2015 6:38 pm

coleridge wrote: . . . the 160 plus breasts look great - whereas those on the 160 look a little odd around the side-boob area. A few more picks of the 160 plus boobs - especially from the side - could win me over completely!

Yes - I see what you mean, a little undercutting as if hanging from above and the skin under the armpits clinging to the rib-cage - but looking at photos of your former girlfriend there's not an enormous difference.

Here's Chloé when after some surgery http://dollforum.com/forum/viewtopic.ph ... 69#p680669 recovering from her bumpy travels from the north of France:

so a similar undercutting. I don't notice this in practice and she's perfectly happy about it

She's the old 158 and in my opinion, and Mahoro's, her breast shape is better than the 161 (160plus)

Looking at specifications the old 158 was of the order of 28-30kg so the new 158 at 30kg shouldn't frighten me. But the 160 offers a 4kg reduction.

Not for me but the news that the larger heads don't look bad on the 145 would put the 145 and especially 145plus in range for some people although for me the 158-160 size is right.

Best wishes

Harem

james1969 · Post by **james1969** » Fri Jan 30, 2015 6:48 pm

Haremlover, just what i was thinking, just what can be put comfortably between those plus size breasts

If i were to buy a Ds, and they are on my short list, 158+ for me, Chloe face.

haremlover · Post by **haremlover** » Fri Jan 30, 2015 7:10 pm

Here's a pic that Stef took of Chloé next to a 160plus

Best wishes

Harem

haremlover · Post by **haremlover** » Sat Jan 31, 2015 8:28 am

From the Arte Tokio site . . . the 160

Is she a perfect elegance?

Comparing 160 and 161

158 and 158+

Are the legs of the 158 slightly short from knee to ankle? Chris - what's your opinion in real life?

Is the 160 worthy of greater attention than it's received to date?

Best wishes

Harem

Post by **AlexKnight** » Sat Jan 31, 2015 1:14 pm

These two pics look so very amazing!

Does anyone know what face this is?

haremlover · Post by **haremlover** » Sat Jan 31, 2015 1:24 pm

AlexKnight wrote:These two pics look so very amazing!

Does anyone know what face this is?

Yes - they grabbed me too - the way in which the calve of the leg looks so real in the one on the right as she crosses her legs. This face is Thera who I think has become a darling face to many of us!

Another face that interests me is known as Claire on the Chinese forum and Alisa elsewhere - and on the Japanese site Kanon or Kaon . . .

http://www.artetokio.com/gallery/a163kaon.html

Best wishes

Harem

Rick_Deckard · Post by **Rick_Deckard** » Sat Jan 31, 2015 1:55 pm

haremlover wrote:This face is Thera who I think has become a darling face to many of us!
Another face that interests me is known as Claire on the Chinese forum and Alisa elsewhere - and on the Japanese site Kanon or Kaon . . .

Talking about faces, i think one of the most underrated here in the forum seems to be Snowy.

She's one of the favorites for cosplay in the chinese forum and she's really beautiful...

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haremlover · Post by **haremlover** » Sat Jan 31, 2015 2:12 pm

Yes - she and Jia Xin is popular too. There is another face who looks happy and hints at a smile.

I found stored on my computer this which might be an old 158 which impressed me for reality, the beauty of setting and dressing

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and it's really wonderful to see how these dolls have inspired so many of us around the world to take our girls outside and photograph them in the open. No stands, no cranes and robust enough not to be damaged by all sorts of things that would damage other dolls.

Best wishes

Harem

haremlover · Post by **haremlover** » Sun Feb 01, 2015 6:46 am

Last night I thought it would be interesting to compare the height of my ladies

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with Jiayi 168plus, my TPE lady who's having difficulty standing because her joints are now nearly too loose, and Nikita, old 158 and similar to the 161.

Jiayi was shrugging her shoulders at the indignity of coming out in the cold without clothes on whilst Nikita seemed more relaxed

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The development of the availability of these toy ladies in soft silicone is a revolution and it's simply so difficult to decide which of the current bodies to choose . . .

Best wishes

Harem

Post by **brigittes hubbie** » Sun Feb 01, 2015 8:59 am

Hi harem, first of all thank you for submitting Thera to the Matrix! About the boobs, I haven´t tried a b.. f.. yet, but when I read your question I jumped up, went over to Laurence who´s sitting at the other side of the dinner table and - after kindly asking for permission -

put her boobs together. I am very sure that you will have a wonderful experiance if you put your human sex toy between them. :haha4:

Chris

PS: Awesome pics, these girls are amazing!

haremlover · Post by **haremlover** » Sun Feb 01, 2015 5:06 pm

Dear Chris

Thanks so much

Your news is erring me towards a plus . . . making the plus start to be irresistable rather than the elegance of the 160 or perhaps 158. Perhaps I might have to sell my old 158 possibly with Kayla head so that I can buy both . . .

Does anyone know about the extent of the anal function on the 158vs160vs161? On the 168 it's more ornamental than practical - it can be used but it's only a few inches and using it abrades the old silcone making it into an unsightly mess from photos of one which was for sale on this forum. . . .

There's a thread about the anal function of the 160 and 161 on http://bbs.dsdoll.com/forum.php?mod=vie ... muid=34570 but I don't understand the details as translated by Google Translate. . . .

I wrote to Bruno at www.ds-doll.fr who has experience both of TPE dolls and of the new DS soft silicone and he replied:

The new silicone is better than TPE in every way:
1. It is very soft, even nicer to touch than TPE because TPE hooks to the skin when one touches it.
2. It is soft, just right ... The TPE is too soft, it's not real.
3. The new silicone is easier to clean than the TPE.
4. The new silicone is not fatty or oily as TPE is. When touched, no oil on the fingers.

It's starting to look as though DS soft silicone is the way to go . . .

The other question that people will be asking is how soft and jiggly Fabienne's bum is . . . and whether it's soft and yet resistant to flattening if sitting down . . .

It would be lovely perhaps to see a few more pics of Fabienne here and possibly more naked, if Brigitte will allow you

and also when she's sitting down the extent to which she might appear slightly plump. And can she stand up straight without boobs and bum being too exaggerated? Please can you give Fabienne my apologies for asking such rude and personal questions . . . It would be interesting to see her face compared with Neri, also.

Please ask Fabienne's forgiveness in my asking about her legs. I reckon that some of the DS publicity shots were deliberately distorted so as not to give the game away to competitors but . . . the lady who DS copied had legs which were rather short in the photos they showed between ankle and knee . . . http://bbs.dsdoll.com/forum.php?mod=vie ... muid=34570

I'm sure that many of us are going through the same choice decisions . . .

Best wishes

Harem

SevenElevenAlan · Post by **SevenElevenAlan** » Sun Feb 01, 2015 7:43 pm

Such a wealth of information and the 160 photos are great, thank you. Hopefully, we see some more 160 posts in the future as there is such an absence.

haremlover · Post by **haremlover** » Mon Feb 02, 2015 8:31 am

SevenElevenAlan wrote:Such a wealth of information and the 160 photos are great, thank you. Hopefully, we see some more 160 posts in the future as there is such an absence.

In the photos above I found the one I was looking for . . . and she compares well with the TPE doll I've enjoyed greatly but with which I have frustration with effects of abrasion to which TPE is vulnerable

Perhaps one needs a 160 for elegant photography with stiff joints and a 161 with loose joints

Best wishes

Harem