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Member Lovingchanj has a long and wide enough experience of multiple dolls for his opinions to be reasonably objective. He is well informed and I find his comments and opinions helpful.

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deadpringle wrote: Again, I never accused you of vendor bashing. This is the second time I've explained this. My concern is that anecdotal statements about "design flaws" and such will often be used by a small minority of other members here to start mud-slinging campaigns, and I wish to avoid this. Your criticisms are appreciated LC, however, any negative statements regarding the design or manufacture of dolls needs to be accompanied by photographic evidence, or some other form of evidence, such as links to reputable resource. This is a requirement.

I'm not trying to be a thorn in anyone's side here. I simply want to make sure we don't make statements that will cause harm to any vendor's business or reputation without due cause. I would be reacting the exact same way if this were about Teddy Babes, or RealDolls, or WM Dolls, etc.
As a person who has had his issues with DS in the past, I agree wholeheartedly with DP here. You can see earlier in this thread before my mentally cleansing trip to San Diego where I jumped on the words and made an issue out of it. Luckily my perspective has changed and I am trying to be a more positive voice. All I am saying is that without a much larger sampling of evidence it is impossible to state that it is anything more than an area to be cautious with. A 'design flaw' would be something where a large percentage, let's say >15-20% had the exact same issue and it was something that could be replicated easily by anyone. It could at this point just be one worker not applying the mix properly.

I do have a suggestion for strengthening the area. Sil-Pox is itself silicone that is used to adhere two sections of silicone together, it is clear with a higher Shore Hardness than traditional silicone mixes. Shore Hardness is the softness of the silicone, the higher the number the harder the silicone. You might be able to strengthen the area by adding a thin layer of Sil-Pox along the thin area which would give it some additional hardness and tear resistance. Just an idea.

Hopefully this helps put things in better perspective from a former foe of DS products who has gone to being neutral on them. I still don't find them to appeal to my personal aesthetics but I recognize the quality of the brand and can appreciate the beauty of them.
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karpos wrote:As a person who has had his issues with DS in the past,
I wasn't aware that you had had a DS lady among your harem . . . ?

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karpos wrote: I do have a suggestion for strengthening the area. Sil-Pox is itself silicone that is used to adhere two sections of silicone together, it is clear with a higher Shore Hardness than traditional silicone mixes. Shore Hardness is the softness of the silicone, the higher the number the harder the silicone. You might be able to strengthen the area by adding a thin layer of Sil-Pox along the thin area which would give it some additional hardness and tear resistance. Just an idea.

Hopefully this helps put things in better perspective from a former foe of DS products who has gone to being neutral on them. I still don't find them to appeal to my personal aesthetics but I recognize the quality of the brand and can appreciate the beauty of them.
Agreed this might work very well, I believe part of the problem is that because it is such a thin area near very thick areas, all the stretching occurs there in the one area. even just a small amount of reinforcement that makes it harder will distribute the stretching to the other parts of the silicone, in turn making the amount of stretch it has to support smaller.
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Having just answered a question about another type of doll I've come to realise a possible cause of splitting to which the 145 has been said to be prone. In use in missionary position the mid back hinge is vital so that she can come up towards you a bit to make the angle better. If the hinge of a new doll is too tight, this might be a movement facility that isn't being used to advantage . . .

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There is a very thin, fine fiberglass cloth sold in hobby stores for the wings of model airplanes, it could be used to reinforce the inside of the insert hole, glued in with permatex flowable silicone windshield sealer
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Ddwyerstar wrote:There is a very thin, fine fiberglass cloth sold in hobby stores for the wings of model airplanes, it could be used to reinforce the inside of the insert hole, glued in with permatex flowable silicone windshield sealer
That's a good suggestion but I'd prefer a cotton or jute fibrous membrane rather than glass . . .

Recently I have been trying to make some mount components for loudspeaker cones using silicone rather than foam which rots in 7-15 years, a problem particularly for Tannoy and Lowther. I'm inserting fibrous material and have experimented with wool from thistle seeds, cotton like wool from reeds and rushes from a lake, and also hair both human and from cheap wigs.

But for this application a matrix of gauze such as for medical applications would seem the perfect material.

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haremlover wrote:
Ddwyerstar wrote:There is a very thin, fine fiberglass cloth sold in hobby stores for the wings of model airplanes, it could be used to reinforce the inside of the insert hole, glued in with permatex flowable silicone windshield sealer
That's a good suggestion but I'd prefer a cotton or jute fibrous membrane rather than glass . . .

Recently I have been trying to make some mount components for loudspeaker cones using silicone rather than foam which rots in 7-15 years, a problem particularly for Tannoy and Lowther. I'm inserting fibrous material and have experimented with wool from thistle seeds, cotton like wool from reeds and rushes from a lake, and also hair both human and from cheap wigs.

But for this application a matrix of gauze such as for medical applications would seem the perfect material.

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Agreed, pulling glass fibers out of your hand is bad enough.. Now I know its not in contact with you (Unless you like insertless sex as one person on the forum has mentioned) and is encapsulated in silicone, but just the chance some fibers might work loose and into your private area... Don't like that idea at all. Cotton seems like a good idea, Or maybe one of the plastics like nylon/polyester (Might last longer without degrading? Especially if it gets wet (do bacteria eat cotton?))
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DS dolls have problems with their feet in my opinion. The feet aren't resistant and cannot hold the 18 kg or more for long. If you let the doll stay in a moist or wet place (example bathroom) and barefoot, so they can be damaged very fast. You always have to use cotton socks and shoes if you want to stand the doll up and even with shoes and socks the feet can get damage if they stay to long. That's the only big problem in my opinion.

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luckyleaf wrote:DS dolls have problems with their feet in my opinion. . . . You always have to use cotton socks and shoes if you want to stand the doll up and even with shoes and socks the feet can get damage if they stay to long. That's the only big problem in my opinion.
Yes - the older silicone could stand but the down side of the new soft silicone is this - but I hope they might improve the design so that the new ones can stand again. . . . I've mentioned that DS tick all boxes as far as I'm concerned . . but you're right here in saying that this box is the one remaining that needs to be ticked.
luckyleaf wrote: DS have the most wonderful dolls with the best customer support worldwide. Every coin is worth it, to buy.
Even with the foot box unticked, there are very many of us who agree!

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haremlover wrote:
luckyleaf wrote:DS dolls have problems with their feet in my opinion. . . . You always have to use cotton socks and shoes if you want to stand the doll up and even with shoes and socks the feet can get damage if they stay to long. That's the only big problem in my opinion.
Yes - the older silicone could stand but the down side of the new soft silicone is this - but I hope they might improve the design so that the new ones can stand again. . . . I've mentioned that DS tick all boxes as far as I'm concerned . . but you're right here in saying that this box is the one remaining that needs to be ticked.
luckyleaf wrote: DS have the most wonderful dolls with the best customer support worldwide. Every coin is worth it, to buy.
Even with the foot box unticked, there are very many of us who agree!
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Agreed, I would love to hear of some other options for DS feet. Maybe a foot where the bottom is nothing but a metal (? rubber? plastic? whatever) plate for those who want to stand it up. Or very hard silicone used on the feet. Another option might be having that threaded hole in the bottom of the foot that I have seen on some dolls, the idea being you can screw in a plate and then the dolls weight is transferred from the skeleton to the plate directly without having to rest on the silicone at all. (Plate could maybe be hidden for photos by poking through a carpet or rug, could also be large enough for the doll to stand without a 3rd point of contact)

You could even have a skeleton where the threaded piece existed in the skeleton and the end user could just cut a small hole in the foot to access it if he wishes to use it. Such a small cut would likely be easy enough to glue back shut if the feature is no longer desired, and likely would not be a problem during normal activities to leave open.
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My doll had a tear by the insert cavity the second day, I repaired immediately with permatex flowable windshield adhesive and reinforced the inside of the tear with medical stretchy gauze with the adhesive smeared on it. No problems since. Do it now, waiting Will make the problem worse. The repair is undetectable.
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Well, I should say for the record that my DS 145 with new formula has been in my possession now since May, IIRC, and I have experienced no tearing in the vaginal area. Neither has my DS 158 +. Personally I think this new formula is much more durable than the old formula, based on my experiences.
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That's good to know.

I'm thinking about purchasing the 145 and I was starting to get kinda nervous.
deadpringle wrote:Well, I should say for the record that my DS 145 with new formula has been in my possession now since May, IIRC, and I have experienced no tearing in the vaginal area. Neither has my DS 158 +. Personally I think this new formula is much more durable than the old formula, based on my experiences.

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lemchuck wrote:That's good to know.

I'm thinking about purchasing the 145 and I was starting to get kinda nervous.
deadpringle wrote:Well, I should say for the record that my DS 145 with new formula has been in my possession now since May, IIRC, and I have experienced no tearing in the vaginal area. Neither has my DS 158 +. Personally I think this new formula is much more durable than the old formula, based on my experiences.
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