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And I do miss her. Just one week in my home and she is irreplaceable.
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Overtightened joint + leverage is what causes plastic to break from the weakest spot. I think I loosen that pelvis joint a little (test posing her before closing her up) and replace nuts with lock-nuts too so that joints don't go out of adjustment.hollows+fentiman wrote:I think it's difficult to work out whether the joint moves just by using your fingers, as the doll body and limbs provide more leverage.
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I think we're all becoming involuntary experts on these dolls now! I'm not sure if many of us have the option of sending a doll to a local 'expert' for repair!
Pumpster, you're right, it certainly needs testing in situ before sealing up as you don't want to find the joint is too loose or too tight afterwards!
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It is funny how we in North America did the field testing, stress tested everything from delivery, customs and usage, even repairs, and we are not allowed to buy what our investment purchased.
Not like there weren't a lot of threads with all kinds of suggestions, like nylon and pins and other things of that nature.
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Yes that thread is a a B*****D to get out but what I did was leave a small amount of the thread in when I was drilling so as to try not to damage the torso and when it's thin enough you can unscrew it using a screwdriver but my spine joint still ended up being tight so I must have still managed to damage the threads somehow and that's on top of the damage I did to her waist.Pumpster wrote:I finally managed to get the damn threads out from the torso, but a bit violent way as I was out of options. Screw extractor kit didn't help because drill bits didn't have sharp enough threads so it didn't "bite" the slippery plastic. I ended up drilling and tapping thread remains out and damaged torso threads in the process, now new piece doesn't seem to screw in, at least nicely. What next, re-threading kit? I'm starting to have nice set of tools already thanks to this doll! I suppose it would be way too good luck if this plastic piece has some kind of standard thread.
I also noticed that the other half of the spine joint that I left there bolted to the pelvis (making upper torso move forward/back) doesn't move at all no matter how I try to move it with my fingers, so DS guys have definately tightened it too much and I suspect that is at least one contributing factor to this breakdown.
My spine joint couldn't be moved by hand when I opened my doll up but I wouldn't say it was over tightened as when I put some grips on it it moved freely plus you have to take into consideration the weight of the upper torso and its levering force so the bolt would need to be quite tight to keep her back ridged plus I tightened the bolt that holds the other joint to the pelvis as when I replaced the spine joint her back still felt lose but she feels ok now I've tightened up that joint and I am amazed she's still in one piece considering how much she gets played with so the problem basically is that DS used cheap S**T plastic in a skeleton that otherwise looks well engineered and I expected better from a company such as DS as the other dolls I've brought from them were trouble free but now if I hadn't already got an Eva on order which will be getting the new skeleton I wouldn't buy from them again.
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Pretty much, Some accountant who should be taken out back and hanged was likemahoro wrote:... I am amazed she's still in one piece considering how much she gets played with so the problem basically is that DS used cheap S**T plastic in a skeleton that otherwise looks well engineered and I expected better from a company such as DS as the other dolls I've brought from them were trouble free but now if I hadn't already got an Eva on order which will be getting the new skeleton I wouldn't buy from them again.
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"Yaknow what we should have go with out highly engineered skeleton, high quality silicone, high quality wig, high quality clothing, high quality sculpt and high quality website?.."
"What?"
"The worlds cheapest, lowest quality plastic used for the skeleton. We'll save DOZENS OF DOLLARS on our $900 doll!"
"BRILLIANT! give this man a raise! But what if it breaks?"
"Ahhh, We can give em some extra low quality customer service to go with the low quality plastic so we don't lose money, instead of our typical high quality service"
"Double brilliant!"
In some ways, It would be less upsetting if there was other flaws in the DS-mini and I could just not like it and call it a poor quality doll, return it and get a refund. But its SO AWESOME except for the skeleton I can't help but like it and want an intact one.
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You have pretty much summed this problem up for all of us with injured dolls.DarkOne wrote:Pretty much, Some accountant who should be taken out back and hanged was likemahoro wrote:... I am amazed she's still in one piece considering how much she gets played with so the problem basically is that DS used cheap S**T plastic in a skeleton that otherwise looks well engineered and I expected better from a company such as DS as the other dolls I've brought from them were trouble free but now if I hadn't already got an Eva on order which will be getting the new skeleton I wouldn't buy from them again.
Mahoro
"Yaknow what we should have go with out highly engineered skeleton, high quality silicone, high quality wig, high quality clothing, high quality sculpt and high quality website?.."
"What?"
"The worlds cheapest, lowest quality plastic used for the skeleton. We'll save DOZENS OF DOLLARS on our $900 doll!"
"BRILLIANT! give this man a raise! But what if it breaks?"
"Ahhh, We can give em some extra low quality customer service to go with the low quality plastic so we don't lose money, instead of our typical high quality service"
"Double brilliant!"
In some ways, It would be less upsetting if there was other flaws in the DS-mini and I could just not like it and call it a poor quality doll, return it and get a refund. But its SO AWESOME except for the skeleton I can't help but like it and want an intact one.
One thing that really pains me is how beautiful these dolls look and feel and then to have such major flaws under the skin is such a shame.
I was surprised when I put my two Eve dolls side by side as I thought they would just look like clones but they do look very different in a good way as ones skin is slightly lighter than the other plus the faces to me look totally different I'm not sure why but it may be the fact that they have different color eyes and subtle differences with their makeup as my original Eve who I named Lara has a more mature and serious look to her compared to my new girl who has a more cute and playful look which makes me really sad knowing that she my never look the same again after I've cut her open and assessed the extent of the damage
I do hope DS manage to resolve these issues as we both have doll orders on hold awaiting the new skeletal design and I do really want to see an Eva in person.
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I can see why they've used plastic, as I don't think you'd probably ever get a metal skeleton doll to look or move the way these DS minis do. It's such a damn shame they didn't test them thoroughly before sending them out into the wide world!
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I think you could get a metal skeleton to do it, but the machining cost for all the parts would be very expensive.hollows+fentiman wrote:I don't think you'll be disappointed with an Eva doll. Like your Eve dolls, my two Evas are totally different in their expressions. Eva2 is far more impish in her looks! I got a second pair of eyes with her this time but I can't bring myself to even think about changing her now!
I can see why they've used plastic, as I don't think you'd probably ever get a metal skeleton doll to look or move the way these DS minis do. It's such a damn shame they didn't test them thoroughly before sending them out into the wide world!
I would like to see a design that lends itself more to mass injection molding for lower costs. THAT said however, aluminum, brass, iron and even steel alloys CAN be molded! There is nothing saying the doll can't have injection molded aluminum, brass or steel hinges along with hollow plastic bones. As the bones could be bigger, they could be insanely strong with very little material since a large diameter tube is stronger then a small diameter tube of the same weight.
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