Ze Plastico Fantastico
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It's great low light gear with it's 1.8 aperture and has pretty decent bokeh for a cheapo lens too. Autofocus is kinda slow but acceptable for the great images it will give you.
This was shot with a single 10-watt bulb in the evening using the 50mm @ 2.0:
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Difficult to use it in a small room but pics are often magical
this one is the 50mm @ 2.0
I bought a 35mm (2.0) from Canon too. It's very good but a bit less than the 50mm
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But be careful with them; I dropped my lens (not very hard) and it was a total loss
Build quality is mediocre at best, that's why I'm still looking around for the first version of this EF f1.8 50mm which is nicknamed the Mark I: is much better build, has a distance scale and a metal fitting. You cannot get this one new anymore, and they go secondhand for almost twice the price of the Mark II (the plastic one).
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I too own a little canon (PowerShot A490), it's a good little digital camera and at a good price, approximately 120$. Very simple. No need to put a lens on it , it gives great shots.
I use it very often even if i have a full equiped big Nikon
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Thanks!Dollarhyde wrote:That's great info GS... Fab photos
Yeah it's use is somewhat limited on a crop sensor SLR like most people have. Nice portrait shot of your beautiful lady.Elle wrote:Difficult to use it in a small room but pics are often magical
Thanks for the info. I'm looking at that one and have heard from others that it doesn't top the 50 in terms of sharpness but the wider angle would be sweet. Price on that one is 3x the cost of the 50, however.Elle wrote:I bought a 35mm (2.0) from Canon too. It's very good but a bit less than the 50mm
All of Canon's primes seem to get good overall reviews.
I agree, life. The build is as cheap as they come but Canon does offer a 50mm 1.4 with much better build for a couple hundred bucks more. Hope you get ahold of that Mark I you're after and post some shots with it.life-is-plastic wrote:Build quality is mediocre at best, that's why I'm still looking around for the first version of this EF f1.8 50mm which is nicknamed the Mark I: is much better build, has a distance scale and a metal fitting. You cannot get this one new anymore, and they go secondhand for almost twice the price of the Mark II (the plastic one).
That's the first cam I purchased to take pics of Cadence with and there are still a few pics in her album that were shot with it. Glad you like it b2b and you've certainly posted some fine pics of Anoukis with that cam.blou2blou2 wrote:I too own a little canon (PowerShot A490), it's a good little digital camera and at a good price
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But this pic I find your best. It has a nice composition and thats where a great picture starts . Technically your pictures are very nice but this one jumps out for me.
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Already have the EF f1.4 50mm but the camera geek in me also likes to see what can be achieved with other lenses My hunt for a reasonably priced Mark I still continuesGreatSoul wrote: I agree, life. The build is as cheap as they come but Canon does offer a 50mm 1.4 with much better build for a couple hundred bucks more. Hope you get ahold of that Mark I you're after and post some shots with it.
Generally speaking: on a crop sensored camera the 50mm lens works as a pretty cheap, large aperture potrait lens which is kinda unbeatable when it comes to distortion free photography in low light. A wide(r) angle lens might be handier in limited space, but nothing will beat a 'portrait lens' when in comes to natural and neutral looking images because it forces you to take a slightly more 'distant' view on your subject.
For those interested in a wide(r), more standard focal length type of lens on their crop-sensor camera: Sigma has a f1.4 30mm ... but I have no idea how it performs. Same goes for Samyang, who offer a f1.4 35mm, which is reasonably cheap, but that's partly because of the fact it's a manual focus lens. Again: no real idea how it performs, although I've read some reviews of some of their other offerings, and they do offer a lot of bang for your bucks. They have several fisheyes (for different mounts/systems) for instance that are pretty good, and you don't really need auto-focus for a fisheye
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Thanks sky. It's cool that you have the Nikon 50mm 1.4 as I've heard some great things about it.skybird100000 wrote:But this pic I find your best. It has a nice composition and thats where a great picture starts.
I personally go for good posing first and foremost when it comes to doll photography. I'd rather see a dynamic pose against a plain background than a doll doing nothing in a million dollar mansion. Great posing requires only talent with some ball busting hard work and costs absolutely nothing.
That said, I do understand that some people have older dolls with loose joints that can't hold poses anymore.
life-is-plastic wrote:For those interested in a wide(r), more standard focal length type of lens on their crop-sensor camera: Sigma has a f1.4 30mm ... but I have no idea how it performs.
Also in the price range of the Sigma 30mm or Canon 50mm 1.4, there is a Tamron 17-50 2.8 lens out there with overwhelmingly positive reviews. Pull up images shot with that lens on flickr and I personally can't tell the difference in image quality between it and the Canon 50mm lenses. Granted, it isn't 1.4 fast but 2.8 is still rockin' and rollin' for indoor shooting.
7 blade bokeh on the Tamron zoom as well.
Thanks for your terrific input here, life.
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f2.8 isn't shabby, don't get me wrong, but it cannot beat f1.4 (or the f1.8 for that matter) for the clarity of the viewfinder The rest is all pixel-peepingGreatSoul wrote: Also in the price range of the Sigma 30mm or Canon 50mm 1.4, there is a Tamron 17-50 2.8 lens out there with overwhelmingly positive reviews. Pull up images shot with that lens on flickr and I personally can't tell the difference in image quality between it and the Canon 50mm lenses. Granted, it isn't 1.4 fast but 2.8 is still rockin' and rollin' for indoor shooting.
7 blade bokeh on the Tamron zoom as well.
Thanks for your terrific input here, life.
In the end it doesn't really matter with what you produce your photos, as long as the resulting image is okay !!
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Right, but we're comparing apples to oranges here. The 1.4/1.8's are fixed prime lenses.life-is-plastic wrote:f2.8 isn't shabby, don't get me wrong, but it cannot beat f1.4 (or the f1.8 for that matter) for the clarity of the viewfinder The rest is all pixel-peeping.
Try using your 50mm for a proper full body shot from a ladder. Unless you're a masochist who digs climbing up and down a 12 foot ladder for photography, the 50mm is pretty worthless in that situation. That's where either a 24-30mm prime or sharp zoom glass is an absolute must imo.
Well my original Powershot produced an okay image, but it looks like crap when I compare it to shots in the queen's doll album done with the mighty Canon 24-70L.life-is-plastic wrote:In the end it doesn't really matter with what you produce your photos, as long as the resulting image is okay !!
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Great photograph Elle you take the phrase Real Doll to another level.Elle wrote:I agree with you Greatsoul. I get one for my Canon eos 350 and i love that lens
Difficult to use it in a small room but pics are often magical
this one is the 50mm @ 2.0
I bought a 35mm (2.0) from Canon too. It's very good but a bit less than the 50mm
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You started talking about the Tamron 17-50mm but of course zooms are (much) handier in certain circumstancesGreatSoul wrote:Right, but we're comparing apples to oranges here. The 1.4/1.8's are fixed prime lenses.life-is-plastic wrote:f2.8 isn't shabby, don't get me wrong, but it cannot beat f1.4 (or the f1.8 for that matter) for the clarity of the viewfinder The rest is all pixel-peeping.
Try using your 50mm for a proper full body shot from a ladder. Unless you're a masochist who digs climbing up and down a 12 foot ladder for photography, the 50mm is pretty worthless in that situation. That's where either a 24-30mm prime or sharp zoom glass is an absolute must imo.
Well my original Powershot produced an okay image, but it looks like crap when I compare it to shots in the queen's doll album done with the mighty Canon 24-70L.life-is-plastic wrote:In the end it doesn't really matter with what you produce your photos, as long as the resulting image is okay !!
What I tried to get across was: you yourself for instance take much care of the positioning of your dolls and the idea behind the image; the photography is 'just' the end-result/accumulation of a lot of work (mind you: I'm not trying to belittle photography here!). Whether you photograph your subject with a high end digital SLR or with a simple point-and-shoot kinda doesn't really matter ... only when it comes to the image quality ... taking a picture of a boring scene with a very very expensive Hasselblad doesn't convert it into art because of the use of that high end camera; it's your vision that does that. The use of good equipment will of course produce a better and probably more pleasing end-result, but in the end it's the image/idea/concept and it's execution that really counts.
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You can have a cheaper kodak, and use it like a pro, it's great, and you can have a high tech professional kodak and will not be able to use it correctly, so it's not better.
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