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Kazuo
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Post subject: Help Needed, First Vaginal Repair  Posted: Wed Dec 28, 2011 8:18 pm |
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Help Needed, First Vaginal Repair It's about time for Stephanie's much needed vaginal repair. She is a Real Doll body 3. As seen in these photos she has significant tears in her lower and (less visible in the photos) upper vaginal lips. Also her left lip is coming away from her thigh. AND she has a large crack in her interior. (less visible in these photos) I still have the original RD repair kit she came with. The "Real Doll Adhesive" was already firmly melded in its aluminum tube. (It also had the strongest glue smell EVER) I'd previously tried other adhesives on Stephanie which merely dried and slid right off of Stephanie so I obviously need something that will meld with silicone. I want to make sure I get this right the first time. So can anyone recommend what adhesive to use for silicone and any other advice?     
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Post subject: Re: Help Needed, First Vaginal Repair  Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2011 12:54 pm |
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I have to say I have no idea, Kazuo, the beat advice I can offer is to contact Joe at Abyss, or at least Abyss and see what they say. Good luck I hope it all goes well for you. 
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Christine
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Post subject: Re: Help Needed, First Vaginal Repair  Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2011 4:09 pm |
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You might want to talk to Beardygoat he's really good at repairs.... 
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Post subject: Re: Help Needed, First Vaginal Repair  Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2011 4:52 pm |
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Hi Kazuo im sorry that she is in need of a Repair If it makes you feel any better i had to do a Vaginal Repair on my Realdoll 2 on the 2nd day of geting her in the mail fresh from the RealDoll factory ! I did not even "use" her in any type of sexual way i just placed the insert into her body and when i very carfuly pulled it out using lot of water based lub i saw a tear. I called Abyss and sent theme some photos that they asked me for and they told me what to do. They said Tears can be normal even in bran new dolls . I could tell you what they told me but my tear was more of as split so i think its best if you just contact them if you can if not ill be glad to share what i know
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CJD
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Post subject: Re: Help Needed, First Vaginal Repair  Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2011 5:48 pm |
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See what Abyss says. I think there are a few ways to takle this, these are my thoughts:
1. one would be to do a labia replacenet, Abyss has kits with instructions for that.
2. get some 2 part silicone adhisive in your doll's colour (Abyss those) First clean the area well with Acetone, MEK, or rubbing alcohol. lay her on her back and spread her legs such that the split is partly open. mix up the 2 part and fill the gap. you wil need to babysit this till it cures. leaving a gap to fill instead of gluing the gap shut, there will be less stress there when you play again. once she's set, flip her over and do the same for the upper tear.
3. another alternative is to get some GE KB silicone caulk and some makeup powder that is close to the labia colour as possible. mix some powder in with the clear caulk and follow proceedure 2 using this in place of the 2 part silicone.
good luck.
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Post subject: Re: Help Needed, First Vaginal Repair  Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2011 9:35 pm |
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CJD wrote: See what Abyss says.
2. get some 2 part silicone adhisive in your doll's colour (Abyss those) First clean the area well with Acetone, MEK, or rubbing alcohol. lay her on her back and spread her legs such that the split is partly open. mix up the 2 part and fill the gap. you wil need to babysit this till it cures. leaving a gap to fill instead of gluing the gap shut, there will be less stress there when you play again. once she's set, flip her over and do the same for the upper tear.
good luck. The two-part silicone from the basic repair kit is the best repair for what damage you have. Using the adhesive will work but you will get hard spot's in the vag which may not be to your liking. Abyss creations repair kit is 50 dollars. Mark and the Synthetiks
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Post subject: Re: Help Needed, First Vaginal Repair  Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2011 10:07 pm |
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Hey CJD! Long time no see! I agree with what he said.
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Post subject: Re: Help Needed, First Vaginal Repair  Posted: Fri Dec 30, 2011 9:49 am |
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You need to know if Stephanie is tin or platinum silicone. If she's platinum then two part won't hold, after it cures it will just peel off again. GE silicone II or Permatex RTV clear adhesive will hold well but both are either clear or translucent and will need to be coloured. Makeup powder works well for this. They are also good for filling and not just as a contact adhesive like Silpoxy is. But as mentioned they will be harder than the doll silicone. They can be softened by thinning with either Dilimonene, naptha or artist grade white spirit. This softens the adhesive but also makes it a bit weeker, so its a trade-off.
For splits like that I arrange the doll's legs so that the split is held open and fill them. By doing this you make the entry a little wider each repair, allowing for less stress each time. Not doing so runs the risk of actually making the entry a little smaller each time so that later tears will be worse. I wouldn't replace the labia, but its your choice. The side separation can be fixed by adhesive and the tears by filling.
Now if she is tin silicone the tears are best dealt with by 2-part. New Tin silicone bonds perfectly with old tin silicone, but until it sets it will be runny like a thick liquid so you will need gravity on your side. Do one set of repairs while on her back and then flip her over for the other repair on the front of the labia. 2-part can also be coloured with make-up powder.
But whatever method you use the area has to be perfectly clean. Scrub well with acetone followed by isopropyl alcohol. I find that a final very light swab with white spirit seems to aid bonding of adhesive or 2-part alike, sort of like a primer, but don't wet the area and dry immediately afterwards. Any contamination of dirt, lube, soap etc in the area will completely stuff the bonding of adhesive and may even prevent curing of 2-part altogether. Get right into the splits to make sure that there is nothing in them except clean silicone. Be fussy because the silicone certainly is.
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Kazuo
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Post subject: Re: Help Needed, First Vaginal Repair  Posted: Fri Dec 30, 2011 5:39 pm |
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Thanks for the advice guys. I was frankly hoping Abyss themselves would weigh in on this. (maybe they're just out for the holidays. 1. Stephanie was made in January-March 2010. From that do we know if she is tin or platinum silicone? 2. I too am concerned that a silicone adhesive from Home Depot might cause hard spots in her vagina and/or make her more prone to breaking in the future. Since her public lips will be intimate with me, this could be disastrous. 3. What is this bottle of orange silicone she came with for?  4. I do see Abyss's $50 repair kit and the note that the adhesive only has a shelf life of 3 months. Do I want that or the "Labia Repair Kit?" 5.Is that awful smell normal for the adhesive in a tube? Seriously, it was really really really strong!  5B. Are there any online instructions on how to use these kits? I worried about messing up. 6. Some other questions regarding the cause of these tears. Are these types of tears normal for normal intercourse? I haven't stuck any weird objects in there. Yes the tears did start small but have gotten larger over time. 7. You mentioned how alcohol is best to use for cleaning. Could any of the clearers or lubricants I'd used in the past have contributed to or worsened these tears? I'd used, hand soap, water, hand sterilizer, Johnson & Johnson hand cream, baby oil, and KY jelly. 8. Could Abyss's cleaning tool itself have caused these tears? It's pretty rough wet or dry.
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Post subject: Re: Help Needed, First Vaginal Repair  Posted: Fri Dec 30, 2011 6:55 pm |
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Kazuo wrote: I was frankly hoping Abyss themselves would weigh in on this. (maybe they're just out for the holidays. Abyss don't have time to browse this forum. If it had only sensible posts like this, I am sure they would find the time. Alas, like all forums, this one is full of junk. (Some of it written by me...) Kazuo wrote: 3. What is this bottle of orange silicone she came with for?  Looks like the internal cleaning fluid. You put a couple of drops in to the hot water you fill the white rubber bulb with to clean out her insides if you engage in 'unprotected sex'. Kazuo wrote: 5.Is that awful smell normal for the adhesive in a tube? Seriously, it was really really really strong! Yes, it smells bad. However, when it has dried, it does not smell of anything. Kazuo wrote: 6. ...Are these types of tears normal for normal intercourse? I haven't stuck any weird objects in there. Yes the tears did start small but have gotten larger over time. They do seem to be, at least in my experience. Kazuo wrote: 8. Could Abyss's cleaning tool itself have caused these tears? It's pretty rough wet or dry. It is rough, but soft, so it should be OK as long as you don't use too much force.
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Abyss
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Post subject: Re: Help Needed, First Vaginal Repair  Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 5:27 pm |
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Hi Kazuo- You can shoot me an email at joe@realdoll.com if you have any additional questions that haven't been answered. I can also set you up with a phone consult. Cheers -Joe Kazuo wrote: Thanks for the advice guys. I was frankly hoping Abyss themselves would weigh in on this. (maybe they're just out for the holidays. 1. Stephanie was made in January-March 2010. From that do we know if she is tin or platinum silicone? 2. I too am concerned that a silicone adhesive from Home Depot might cause hard spots in her vagina and/or make her more prone to breaking in the future. Since her public lips will be intimate with me, this could be disastrous. 3. What is this bottle of orange silicone she came with for?  4. I do see Abyss's $50 repair kit and the note that the adhesive only has a shelf life of 3 months. Do I want that or the "Labia Repair Kit?" 5.Is that awful smell normal for the adhesive in a tube? Seriously, it was really really really strong!  5B. Are there any online instructions on how to use these kits? I worried about messing up. 6. Some other questions regarding the cause of these tears. Are these types of tears normal for normal intercourse? I haven't stuck any weird objects in there. Yes the tears did start small but have gotten larger over time. 7. You mentioned how alcohol is best to use for cleaning. Could any of the clearers or lubricants I'd used in the past have contributed to or worsened these tears? I'd used, hand soap, water, hand sterilizer, Johnson & Johnson hand cream, baby oil, and KY jelly. 8. Could Abyss's cleaning tool itself have caused these tears? It's pretty rough wet or dry.
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Post subject: Re: Help Needed, First Vaginal Repair  Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 6:24 pm |
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Kazuo wrote: 1. Stephanie was made in January-March 2010. From that do we know if she is tin or platinum silicone?
Hi Kazuo ... Your Doll Stephanie is of Platinum cured Silicone as Abyss made the change over in July of 2009.
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Post subject: Re: Help Needed, First Vaginal Repair  Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 6:33 pm |
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Kazuo wrote: 7. You mentioned how alcohol is best to use for cleaning. Could any of the clearers or lubricants I'd used in the past have contributed to or worsened these tears? I'd used, hand soap, water, hand sterilizer, Johnson & Johnson hand cream, baby oil, and KY jelly.
Kazuo, I don't know about the J&J hand cream ...... But the Baby Oil is a no no. OIL is NOT good for silicone, especially in the more tender areas (although I am not sure what the inside of a ReaLDOLL's VG is like or it's silicone makeup) I do know that my Leeloo has a different softer mix at and in these locations. Keep the OIL AWAY, of any kind.
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Post subject: Re: Help Needed, First Vaginal Repair  Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 6:50 pm |
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Kazuo wrote: 8. Could Abyss's cleaning tool itself have caused these tears? It's pretty rough wet or dry. And Kazuo, I wouldn't put that CornDog anywhere near let alone in my doll. Just some antibacterial foaming cleaner (one shot into her VG) and rubbed in and around with your own finger and a good rinsing with a meat baster is safer and will keep your doll perfectly clean and damage free. Attachment:
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Good Luck with your dolls repairs.
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Kazuo
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Post subject: Re: Help Needed, First Vaginal Repair  Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2012 8:42 pm |
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Just since my original post the damage has become significantly worse. The tear in the lower lips has spread out to within 1mm of her anal entry! Thanks for all the support. This whole situation has me very very upset. I just can't get the thought of my Stephanie being injured out of my head and want her to get better. Thanks for the advice Joe. I may be calling you. 1. Monday night I am using the RD adhesive to try see if that will patch things up. How fast does it dry? I am checking on it every 15 minutes to make sure it is curing in place. I see how Abyss warns not to over use as "a little bit goes a long way." 2. I ordered the simple RD adhesive but I probably should have ordered the labia replacement kit. Maybe it's just the Abyss photo but it looks like the replacement labia is only the outer lips. Am I correct in thinking that the kit and DVD instructions have a way to fully remove the entire labia and replace it with an entirely new one? The baby oil explains it. Over the past 9 months I'd used A LOT of baby oil as lubricant, as well as her exterior. Fortunately I have not noticed any exterior damage. Hand cream seems safe enough as it just dries, crusts, and falls off. I use it as an interior lubricant, and on her inner thighs as a lubricant for my waist. 3. Is butter safe for Stephanie's exterior? Sometimes I like to massage to rub it on her to give her a more natural oily skin and salty taste. Or does butter count as an oil as well? 
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