BBL, make absolutely sure they understand that it's FLEXIBLE foam not rigid foam. Rigid foam would be as bad as the fiberglass resin. They may be tempted to use rigid foam if they don't understand that you are wanting the doll to be soft.

Good luck!
MF

I'm going to send him photos of this chopped up FuckMeSilly3 leg I have, showing the foam core that is desired.

Ok, I sent them pictures of the desired foam core. There is a setback here, but I'm sure there's still a solution. Here is his email to me:

"I am afraid that what you want is not our specialty and we cannot successfully do. This figures as you like them and how you want to use them, is another product with other requirements than we produce for our regular clients. The mold as we made is according to your exact specifications and can be connected to the eventual upper body, but we do not have the silicone type and foam as you request.(we also never pretended this possibility or offered you this option) To get these results takes a lot of research, effort and money, what is not affordable and the result may not meet your expectations. According to our offer and agreements we made an extra thick layer of silicone to get a realistic skin feeling, but supporting layer under the silicone is hard and not flexible. Our silicone cannot be bended many times or in a too big angle or it may tear. So we cannot meet this new demand of you! How to proceed? Wish I had better news, but better say honest what is possible and what not.
We will wait your further instructions. Tomorrow we will de mold the legs and show you the result/pictures which you can show your friends as well. Today I had my manager call with a silicone producer about softer silicone, he told me the same as I told you. This is a total different process, other silicone, lots of research and a complete different mold. A mold for an average size woman for such silicone without sculpting may cost around [censored by me]. I do not think this is where you are looking for. But let us try to find a solution what is acceptable for you. Look forward to your comments."

I think I have to lower my expectations. Which is fine, since my main goal in hiring the sculptor was to procure the fantasy silicone body shape, which has been done. Bendable limbs and flexibility was only a bonus which was never in my original expectations. I only required that I be able to insert a vagina.

So that's it. I must tell them that all I require is that the core allows a vagina to be inserted properly and remain securely inserted. Then I should be able to get his best cooperation according to his skills. From his email, it is kind of apparent that he knows I wish to have sex with it. Any other suggestions?

the company is professional but in another close but very different field,silicon doll but never about sex doll.sex is your priority need,the doll is a kind of form,right?
and you may made mistaken choice of design and the worker who can help you.
as the above said,the company's working process and material they use are very far away from making a doll for sex,especially when you afford a 20k payment.you go further,you got more disappointment.

what to do next imo is shutting down the cooperation today,pay the past fee,and let yourself be calm to read the posts on tdf,there are a lot of basic and higher class infomation to help to know sex dolls,and developing your design.

you have paid a lot on many part of a doll,this time you paid more on a full-size doll making,the money will not be a waste but a mark and encourges you to lift yourself level to realize what is your real need and how the solution will be.

and the semi-completed doll can be a good tester when you feel you have learned enough and want to act again

Well, I revealed everything to him. I said to him:
"I admit that I have not been fully forthcoming in addressing my reasons for having this product, mainly because I did not know how you would react to it. I feel I must tell you now. This is a fantasy female figure that I very much desire, and to reap full hapinness with it I wish to not only look at it and touch it, but also make love to it. My online friends have the same passion, so this sort of thing is in high demand. All I require of you is the foam core allow the insertion of a toy vagina and remain fastened and stable in it. You do not have to handle any toy vagina--I will do that modification myself. I just need you to place a core that allows me to carve a tightly fitting hole to do so. In particular, I wish to insert a fleshlight vagina sleeve. I've attached a picture of it. Please don't think negatively of this, because there are others who have the same desire to do the exact same thing. So, can you cooperate with me in placing a suitable core that allows the pictured vagina to be placed inside of it? Understand that you are not sending me a sex toy. You are sending me a silicone sculpture, and I am the one who is turning it into a sex toy. You can inform the shipping company that it is a sculpture and nothing else, which is the truth. Do I have your cooperation?"

He replied that there he has no problems with this and will help me with the modification. He will send pictures tomorrow as he demolds the figure.

Sorry to hear about the setback BBL, but at least this sounds somewhat more encouraging.

MF

Here is a suggestion if it backfires, you could always make the doll 5'9 24in waist- 52in ass.

He just sent me an encouraging email:

"Now I have a bit more time to answer you. Sure I will help you, no problem with your fantasy. We have various clients which all kinds of interesting whishes and who am I to judge this. I do not see big troubles to get the size of the vagina (the tube) in the legs. Only I need from you your exact specifications on what point to get you the hole and tube. We have to create it like this that you may remove the vagina when needed and that it will be solid enough to stay in place. Just feel free and inform me about your desired details. I think foam is not durable and strong enough, if the vagina is very soft and absorbs your pressure we better create a solid fixed tube in which you can slide and remove the vagina. I think you will be happy with the final result! That is what counts. But if you have a better alternative we can do as you request within our possibilities.

We made the silicone extra thick about an inch what makes the legs very realistic. Maybe after we finished the legs we send you the legs and you try them and if happy we can start the upper body? We will make the legs so that you easily can attach the upper body to legs. We have the fiber glass master of the legs to sculpt on and for the sizes, this will work. What do you think?"

I'm still thinking that I should carve out my own hole for the vagina because he won't know exactly what is going in, and where it should go, and what angle to go in. A solid fixed tube won't be putting pressure on the fleshlight to keep it locked in place, right? Should I send him pictures of vagina openings of sex dolls? I'm thinking I should do it myself and if I do a poor job, I can simply ask him to make another one for me and let him carve out the hole as he is offering. Or maybe I order the fleshlight to be sent to him, and with the vagina in his hand, let him figure out how to insert it properly for me (since he is apparently offering to do that). What do you think?

BBL,

I think that trying to retrofit the fleshlight into the doll may be a bit difficult, especially if you've never worked with the materials.

IMO the best thing would be if possible to have them mount the actual plastic case that is made for the fleshlight in the doll. That way it will function exactly as it should and the lip on the case will keep the sleeve in place. I would send the fleshlight to them so they know exactly what they are dealing with.

The issue however will be to determine the exact location and angle as you mentioned. I would try working closely with them with photos or whatever to get the exact angle and location, keeping in mind that the dolls legs will not be movable. Now that the ice has been broken, don't be afraid to be explicit with them as to exactly what you want.

This is all just my opinion of course. This is your project so you need to do what you think is best.

MF

Good advice. I'm going to do exactly this. It would have to be a fleshlight sex in a can though, which is 7 inches long and 3 inches in diameter, since a regular fleshlight being 10 inches long would exceed the end of the figure. A perfectly cylindrical can should be easiest to insert and remove anyway.

I just received photos of the demolded legs. But there was a problem. This is what they said:
"We demolded the legs but had a big disappointment. We did not make our mold strong enough for the size of legs we made for you. The mold was stronger than normal, but we underestimated the thickness we had to make for this size of legs. See pictures of the result, the legs are dented and not smooth and we have to redo them. We will reinforce the mold and redo the legs on our expenses. Good thing for you is that we can improve the mold to make the fleshlight fit. Can you give us your suggestions, sizes, instructions and draw were to place the fleshlight. In this way for future production automatically the fleshlight will fit as well. Before improving the mold we will give you the extra costs for the arrangements to install the fleshlight. Are you interested to buy the rough model /misproduction we just made at costs of shipping and silicone? (it is just an question, you may have a use for it) Sorry for the delay, but this was above our expectations as you can imagine."

Well, I will now draw out exactly where the fleshlight entry will be made. The fleshlight sleeve is 4.5 cm in diameter which seems to be just the perfect size as you can see from the photos. But if I place the vagina where it is normally, I won't be able to get into it since the legs cannot spread. Thus I must place the vagina higher, which is fine since the diameter of the fleshlight sex in a can is 7.2 cm. Do you think it is better to insert the whole can or just the fleshlight sleeve itself? See previous post for the picture of the can. Would you say that an entry angle of 40 degrees (with the horizontal) be good?

Ok, here is my drawing for where the can should be inserted. Do you think that's a good choice? Should it be placed higher to make sure that I can get in? Remember the legs cannot spread out more than they are now. Should I buy this defective version (at only the silicone price as they mentioned) and experiment with it to find out for sure?

My first reaction when i saw the circle was "Wow, that's going to be a really tiny pussy on that big doll".

The inner ring on the sex in a can is less than 2"(4.8 cm) in diameter which sounds a bit tight to me and I'm fairly average in size. I honestly think you should give some thought to using a regular fleshlight or maybe the Blade version. If you are reasonably well endowed you may not be able to use the SIAC. IF the regular fleshlight is too long (the plastic case is 8 3/8"(21.3 cm) tall, I measured mine) you could very easily cut the narrow end down to the length required and trim the narrow end of the sleeve as well. That way you could still select from the wide variety of sleeves available depending on your needs.


I would definitely mount the plastic case in the doll, and as far as the mounting, I think it should be installed basically perpendicular to the body surface, and if you mount it somewhat higher I think 45 degrees should be fairly close to what it would be. It looks like you might have it a little low on your drawing IMO.

The sex in a can is the right size for me. Besides, the vaginas look to be the same size, just different size containers. Furthermore, the can is the correct shape considering my next point: I'm thinking that the best way is to have the can GLUED to the inner walls of the tunnel that he will carve out (the walls of the tunnel will be silicone he said, but he can make it something else). Then the fleshlight sleeve can be removed and inserted into the can easily, while locked in the can during intercourse (due to the "ring" on the fleshlight sleeve). Good idea?

The circle is probably a bit too low. I'll make a new drawing.