How to counter color fading?

bluefield02 · Post by **bluefield02** » Tue Jan 31, 2017 10:14 am

Hello, I recently purchase an Ordoll and its been close to a month now, but I notice the color on the nipples (was suppose to be dark brown) seem to fade overtime where as the nipple of the doll is close to the color of the doll itself. Is there anything I can do to counter this?

ILoveCoffee · Post by **ILoveCoffee** » Tue Jan 31, 2017 10:46 am

bluefield02 wrote:Hello, I recently purchase an Ordoll and its been close to a month now, but I notice the color on the nipples (was suppose to be dark brown) seem to fade overtime where as the nipple of the doll is close to the color of the doll itself. Is there anything I can do to counter this?

Somebody has been kissing and sucking on their doll's breasts!

It is an easy fix. Use powder matte makeup with a medium makeup brush to re-vitalize the nipples and areola. Look for an inexpensive makeup palette such as LA Colors in your local pharmacy or discount store. They come in different color ranges. This is part of normal maintenance if you play with your doll.

You can also use the same technique for other parts of the body. I color Sanae's vulva and labia this way to make her look more realistic.

bluefield02 · Post by **bluefield02** » Tue Jan 31, 2017 12:04 pm

Thank you for the quick reply. i'll do this

timetraveler1 · Post by **timetraveler1** » Thu Feb 02, 2017 11:06 pm

ILoveCoffee, you mentioned about doing this to put the color on but what about it coming off easily? i mentioned something earlier about some of the better lipgloss etc. that are suppose to stay on really good . i just wonder how easy the make up comes off the breast?

ILoveCoffee · Post by **ILoveCoffee** » Thu Feb 02, 2017 11:19 pm

timetraveler1 wrote:ILoveCoffee, you mentioned about doing this to put the color on but what about it coming off easily? i mentioned something earlier about some of the better lipgloss etc. that are suppose to stay on really good . i just wonder how easy the make up comes off the breast?

It just depends on how much you "play" with them. Anything will come off if you suck on them enough. The matte powder, in my opinion, looks more realistic, and it's fun doing the occasional touch up.

Apogee · Post by **Apogee** » Fri Feb 03, 2017 9:35 am

Incidentally, when I ordered my doll, I think I had chosen 'natural' as a nipple areola color and she arrived with nipples and breasts of the same color. Which means it almost looks like she has no areola at all if it weren't for the erect nipples to indicate they're there. I don't mind it though, but have been toying with the idea of coloring them up some how.

timetraveler1 · Post by **timetraveler1** » Fri Feb 03, 2017 10:37 am

Actually with the way some colors come off and stay on tpe material , maybe some experimentation might work with dark brown colors to see what will actually fade and stay on a dolls arola area . i had something black fade onto the fingers in a small area and is still on it been about a month or more , so maybe somehow the same can be done with a brown color ?

ZZZZ · Post by **ZZZZ** » Sat Apr 01, 2017 5:21 pm

What kind of paint/dye does the factory use to color the areola? Whatever they use seems to be the best looking and longest lasting option, so I'd think it would be for sale pretty much everywhere dolls are sold. To the contrary, I've looked at many doll websites and haven't seen anything of the kind. TPE repair kits for physical damage, yes. No paint/dye.

I've searched TDF, and there are many questions that touch on this, but the answers all sound speculative rather than definitive - along the lines of, "You could try x, y, and z...". Has anyone asked the manufacturers? Are the manufacturers refusing to answer? Is it a case of "planned obsolescence", where they'd rather you buy a whole new doll?

I just want to buy whatever the manufacturer is using. "Shut up and take my money!"

Stevo85 · Post by **Stevo85** » Sat Apr 01, 2017 6:03 pm

timetraveler1 wrote:Actually with the way some colors come off and stay on tpe material , maybe some experimentation might work with dark brown colors to see what will actually fade and stay on a dolls arola area . i had something black fade onto the fingers in a small area and is still on it been about a month or more , so maybe somehow the same can be done with a brown color ?

That reminds me of the time I put lipstick on my doll. I bought a crayon type for ease of use. The stuff wouldnt stick so I couldnt touch it let alone kiss her for the duration it wason. Wich bummed me out a bit.

When I removed it several days later though, some of it had been absorbed into her lips. Leaving pink residue that lasted for quite some time. Although I now regret not counting it.

Ill apply it again sometime and keep closer track.

Like you said, using it with different colors may have a favorable effect on the nipples and the labia.

That reminds me: What kind of paint do they use to color the labia and nipples? I assume they use the same to apply the semi permanent lipstick on a newly made head?

ZZZZ · Post by **ZZZZ** » Sun Apr 02, 2017 10:18 am

Stevo85 wrote:That reminds me: What kind of paint do they use to color the labia and nipples? I assume they use the same to apply the semi permanent lipstick on a newly made head?

I just asked ORdoll, but wasn't understood. So then I rephrased, asking if the color was paint, dye or makeup. The answer was, "make up the color". I don't know if that means "some unstated type of makeup" or "mix up some unstated ingredients", but I don't want to keep bothering her.

A Google search for "TPE dye" turned up this page. I don't have the chemistry background to understand it, and I don't know what brand/formula of TPE is in the current generation of OR dolls... but even so, this is really interesting:

Liquid Colorants

Liquid colorants can be used successfully if the carriers are compatible with (SEBS) or (SBS) based TPEs. Mineral oil carriers work well with most of the Dynaflex and Kraton TPE’s. Paraffin oil carriers are compatible, but they have a slight plasticizing effect and can soften the TPEs. Aromatic carriers cannot be used because they will attack the materials styrene end blocks.

I've seen mineral oil suggested as a carrier before, and that is what's pulling the dye out of doll clothes and causing unwanted stains, so it stands to reason that it can cause wanted stains too (as suggested above). Maybe a mixture of clothing dye and mineral oil (and/or Vaseline, for stickiness) would be worth trying on a sample chunk of TPE. I guess my main concern would be that the dye is non-toxic/edible. Maybe food coloring instead...

The bit about how paraffin oil has "...a slight plasticizing effect and can soften the TPEs" is also very interesting to me because my doll is not as soft as the videos led me to believe - but that's a whole other ball of wax.

AGL · Post by **AGL** » Sun Apr 02, 2017 12:54 pm

ZZZZ wrote:What kind of paint/dye does the factory use to color the areola? Whatever they use seems to be the best looking and longest lasting option, so I'd think it would be for sale pretty much everywhere dolls are sold. To the contrary, I've looked at many doll websites and haven't seen anything of the kind. TPE repair kits for physical damage, yes. No paint/dye.

I've searched TDF, and there are many questions that touch on this, but the answers all sound speculative rather than definitive - along the lines of, "You could try x, y, and z...". Has anyone asked the manufacturers? Are the manufacturers refusing to answer? Is it a case of "planned obsolescence", where they'd rather you buy a whole new doll?

I just want to buy whatever the manufacturer is using. "Shut up and take my money!"

Yeah ZZZZ, I'd like to know this answer as well. Whatever the factory uses seems to hold up for awhile anyway, so I'd like to find what it is too; it wouldn't be a big deal to do a touch up every few months. Most of what I've read on TDF comes from photographers, who just want it to look good for pics. I want something that will hold up & stay in place after kissing. I don't think dry makeup or lip gloss would be a good option for what I'm looking for.

Does anyone know what the factory applies, and if so, where to get it?

charliedoll · Post by **charliedoll** » Tue Aug 15, 2017 3:12 pm

The tip about using powder matte to color the nipples and lips is fantastic!! She has never looked better and the nipple color is even better than when I originally got her. I did get a few strange looks when I went to walmart to buy the make up, but what the hell. Next time I might order it online. The great thing is if you want to change colors you can! Great recommendation I will keep on using!

Procrasturbate · Post by **Procrasturbate** » Tue Aug 15, 2017 7:23 pm

i will have the answer by the end of the weekend, stay tuned.

Dollyman25442 · Post by **Dollyman25442** » Tue Aug 15, 2017 10:32 pm

ILoveCoffee wrote:
bluefield02 wrote:Hello, I recently purchase an Ordoll and its been close to a month now, but I notice the color on the nipples (was suppose to be dark brown) seem to fade overtime where as the nipple of the doll is close to the color of the doll itself. Is there anything I can do to counter this?
Somebody has been kissing and sucking on their doll's breasts! It is an easy fix. Use powder matte makeup with a medium makeup brush to re-vitalize the nipples and areola. Look for an inexpensive makeup palette such as LA Colors in your local pharmacy or discount store. They come in different color ranges. This is part of normal maintenance if you play with your doll.

You can also use the same technique for other parts of the body. I color Sanae's vulva and labia this way to make her look more realistic.

Hmm...
LA colors face powder or eye shadow?
https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=a9_asi_1?r ... 1502850568
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Dollyman25442 · Post by **Dollyman25442** » Tue Aug 15, 2017 10:51 pm

charliedoll wrote:The tip about using powder matte to color the nipples and lips is fantastic!! She has never looked better and the nipple color is even better than when I originally got her. I did get a few strange looks when I went to walmart to buy the make up, but what the hell. Next time I might order it online. The great thing is if you want to change colors you can! Great recommendation I will keep on using!

Could you share with us a picture of the results and the EXACT La Color product you used (eye shadow or face powder)?
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