Finally - The Truth about JY Doll?
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just a quick update… the sample order has been placed, confirmed, and paid (yes, I'm paying for sample orders).
It will be a JY-165 with Jenny and Tiffany heads & enhanced skeleton. Manufacturing has started on 24th.
But, oh my, Harem and others that I don't know by name are pulling strings hard in the background to avoid making this happen…
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Pulling hard for what? Pulling hard for you not have to pay for the samples or pulling for you not to get them to do a review etc.Dollstudio wrote:Hi,
just a quick update… the sample order has been placed, confirmed, and paid (yes, I'm paying for sample orders).
It will be a JY-165 with Jenny and Tiffany heads & enhanced skeleton. Manufacturing has started on 24th.
But, oh my, Harem and others that I don't know by name are pulling strings hard in the background to avoid making this happen…
Sandro
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Pulling strings hard to make impossible what we do. For example, the Unboxing check, disclosing honest pricing, adapting Indigo's Stain Remover and TPE Repair Kit for the JY TPE blend and so on. If he and his buddies succeed, nothing of this is going to happen.Boobman wrote:Pulling hard for what? Pulling hard for you not have to pay for the samples or pulling for you not to get them to do a review etc.
Sandro
PS: Spent the last hours untangling JY's catalog numbers, alias names, and 'manufacturer identification numbers'.
You can now retrieve detailed information about the heads in a structured manner. Things like this will be for the trash.
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Reckon you all should to and keep it about JY not about he is doing this and they are doing that...
that is an offliner that needs to be represented to management with any evidence that has the potential to compromise legit business enterprise...those are the gold and orange guys here.
From my experience with the recent JY line...I recommend them highly, irrespective of any pending court cases that have yet to be determined, as it would be most embarrasing if one maker was sueing another and we all judged the defendent guilty without due process (trial by multi media here), only to have the case quashed as the plaintiff had insufficient evidence to plead there case and it was a market detractor for the competiton.....reality check corperations do this...just sayin people...look before you leap.
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Wow! Thanks for sharing this one. They are right inline with my taste and preference. If the quality is there, I believe the bar has been raised. And that is the reason for the interest. They are beautiful. I predict it will only be a matter of time that they will be approved. Keeping my fingers crossed.Bauta wrote:It seems that JY has dolls of his own harvest, But other photos is not so clear, in addition to their dubious quality, however, the heads that seem to be JY originals are exquisite, with an excellent quality as you can see in the video. Lack to clarify if they are truly original from JY, and there are many repeated
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jydoll.cn and jydoll.com - pretty much the same site but no doll measurements.
jydollcn.com - this site lists their 148cm measurements as 75- 51- 78.
asdolls.com - this sire also has the same measurements as the above.
these 4 sites all have the same contact email addresses.
then there's --Non-verified Vendor-- which lists the 148cm measurements as 76- 51- 74 and has different contact email addresses.
Now.... when opening asdolls.com it has the 'YL doll workshop' loading screen.....odd?
--Non-verified Vendor-- has been advertising on UKlovedoll and ODC sites.
Confusing
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http://www.asdolls.com/index1.php is the website for AS Dolls.sdl44 wrote:So...there's
jydoll.cn and jydoll.com - pretty much the same site but no doll measurements.
jydollcn.com - this site lists their 148cm measurements as 75- 51- 78.
asdolls.com - this sire also has the same measurements as the above.
these 4 sites all have the same contact email addresses.
then there's --Non-verified Vendor-- which lists the 148cm measurements as 76- 51- 74 and has different contact email addresses.
Now.... when opening asdolls.com it has the 'YL doll workshop' loading screen.....odd?
--Non-verified Vendor-- has been advertising on UKlovedoll and ODC sites.
Confusing
I did also note for a brief second the YL Workshop loading screen popped up, while my browser indicated waiting infomation from AS Dolls site, then shifted to the AS site as soon as browser said transferring information form AS website.
Possibly a Cookies thing!
--Non-verified Vendor-- is another site, possibly an older more englished based site, but I am not to sure on this one as it still has the sponsor logo from RLSD (that apparently is not a thing) so not convinced it is the official and current Aiersha based marketing shop front.
Cheers Anung
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Lexi-BT 3 (C) Star Bod 3 Gel butt & boob implants
Lorelei-SANHUI 165R cup my custom elf head 007
Emerald-R13 custom
Tammy-PIB IG -Bella Head
Ayla-WM dolls - 155cm DD cup model
Jessica Jade-PD - 163cm, Penelope fitness version .
Mazzy M-JY/AS Doll 166cm fitness model
Pearl-JY150cm Fantasy Fitness my design
BaBs-PD 158cm Mega Boobs doll
Jessie-TB Deluxe-Jessica Model
Danny-YL Dolls-128cm Kylie model
Gypsy Kate-WM 140cm D cup head #36
Dommy-SANHUI 65cm Mini silicone doll
Mini Dolls lots!
My designs: PD 160 cm FBB Motoko Kusinagi GITS, She Demon Agony & 150cm Fantasy fitness Pearl
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--Non-verified Vendor-- is an agent site. The relation between JY and this agent could be close, similar to the relation between WM Dolls (with "s") and the authentic WM Doll (without "s") brand. But since JY had so much trouble with agents in the past it's hard to tell. So better stick to the official sites.Anung Un Rama wrote:--Non-verified Vendor-- is another site, possibly an older more englished based site, but I am not to sure on this one […] so not convinced it is the official and current Aiersha based marketing shop front.
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But they must be the same mob as as JY, they have the same contact details.
Much apologies, must have missed that bit.Anung Un Rama wrote:
I did also note for a brief second the YL Workshop loading screen popped up, while my browser indicated waiting infomation from AS Dolls site, then shifted to the AS site as soon as browser said transferring information form AS website.
Possibly a Cookies thing!
Maybe the site was designed by the same dude that made the YL site but he forgot to change that line of code in his template.
--Non-verified Vendor--. Ive emailed them using 2/3 addresses, one 5 days ago and the other 2, no replies. So.....**** 'em.
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Try this one: jydolls@hotmail.comsdl44 wrote:... Ive emailed them using 2/3 addresses, one 5 days ago and the other 2, no replies. So.....**** 'em.
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Re: Finally - The Truth about JY Doll?
Dear Xxxxx
We only have official website is jydoll.com . And asdolls.com is still update not used . So please only check with this website .
Thanks
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As stated above Shenzen Aiersha are the makers, the brand or Marketting lines are JY or AS dolls (I covered off on this a couple of pages back including the contacts), same, same with maker and branding as JINSAN and WM for example.
The sites are all linked to Aiersha or agents there of, and Aiersha has their new factory store on AliX.
If you are concerned about the site reliability, Both Sandro at Dollstudio, Jeff at BCD and also Doug at Passion dolls can probably do a competative deal too,
Cheers Anung
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Lilith Un Rama - RD She Devil Custom Bod 10 (DOLLMILF and TDF Doll Queen)
Natasha-RD Classic - Bod 6
Lexi-BT 3 (C) Star Bod 3 Gel butt & boob implants
Lorelei-SANHUI 165R cup my custom elf head 007
Emerald-R13 custom
Tammy-PIB IG -Bella Head
Ayla-WM dolls - 155cm DD cup model
Jessica Jade-PD - 163cm, Penelope fitness version .
Mazzy M-JY/AS Doll 166cm fitness model
Pearl-JY150cm Fantasy Fitness my design
BaBs-PD 158cm Mega Boobs doll
Jessie-TB Deluxe-Jessica Model
Danny-YL Dolls-128cm Kylie model
Gypsy Kate-WM 140cm D cup head #36
Dommy-SANHUI 65cm Mini silicone doll
Mini Dolls lots!
My designs: PD 160 cm FBB Motoko Kusinagi GITS, She Demon Agony & 150cm Fantasy fitness Pearl
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let's summarize what we have learned so far.
- There are different websites operated by JY and/or affiliated companies. Product images are shared on these sites, but specifications are inconsistent. In the background there is a complex weave of companies which remains mostly hidden behind a veil.
- There seem to be legal issues with the enhanced skeleton used by JY. Two sides have claimed to own patents, but there seems to be no court ruling yet. JY has shown patent IDs, but they could not be verified yet because the Chinese patent database is only updated every couple of months.
- Some of the heads shown by JY have an unclear origin. An example is here. It is not clear where these heads actually come from. Again, the images are shared between competing sources.
- JY lists their available heads with different numbers in their current catalog and on their website; in older catalog a third numering scheme is used, making it very hard to unequivocally identify a head. It was promised to get this fixed during March, but it did not happen (yet).
- JY dolls are sold through at least two (non-listed on TDF) vendors at less than cost price, resulting in markets in turmoil in Europe. Also, JY and/or their affiliated companies seem to directly compete with their resellers. However, this is not unusual, not even for TDF-listed manufacturers.
- JY has promised delivery within 5-7 days plus "a couple of days" for the updated skeleton, but failed to meet this lead time.
- JY has offered the possibility to directly pick up completed dolls from their factory/office. A pickup has been attempted from a given location in Shenzhen but failed. However, since no other Chinese manufacturer allows direct pickups anymore, some jamming was not completely unexpected. Though, neither an office nor a factory location could be verified so far.
I'll keep this thread updated from time to time.
Sandro
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