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Want a cup of snakeoil? AI robot doll speaks English (video)

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Hi,

as always in the doll industry, crazy things happen all the time. Among the latest news is a"robot doll" with AI that understands and speaks Englisch. Of course the "robot doll" comes from China and is made of TPE (unbelievable), and is even supposed to have body heating (idiotic!)

So have a cup of snakeoil and enjoy the following video:
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So you're saying that famed Chinese robot head is a hoax?
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dullahan wrote:So you're saying that famed Chinese robot head is a hoax?
Considering what they promise - like "true A.I." and learning capabilities - yes, you probably could call it a hoax.

Remember, the people behing this "robot doll" seem to be the same which were faced with the unsolvable problem to make a penis for a male doll that matches the skin tone of the body. That was the best they could come up with:
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Maybe I am too pessimistic, but I have some doubts that that these guys improved their skills so much that they now are spearheading robotics.

Another question is if the video I posted above is a hox. No, I think this is real. What they are showing is possible with a software like MyRobotLab and an Internet connection. You can make a demo like this relatively easy. But a commercial product that must not fall apart after the video camera was switched off?

From what I can tell, the robot doll showcased by Z-Onedoll is much more reasonably designed.

However, I have asked if they want to send me sample :-)

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Sandro:

I am not shure, that it is a hoax. A similar Silicon Doll from Shenzen Bride exists. It was presented in Shanghai adult Expo 2017. And it is now in the shop of german seller, who sells since over a decade the Mechadolls and the Dreamdolls.

And now the similar in TPE ?
Look here in TDF at the Forum of Sexy Sex Dolls :
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heating a tpe doll has been going on for quite awhile, people using Electric blankets .I don't see why an internal system for tpe couldn't be done.
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True AI is BS. That I can agree with. It's just not happening with current technology.
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@Katka: There is no question that you can build a head with eyes that blink. SFX specialists in Hollywood are building this kind of animatronics for decades. Z-Onedoll has proven that you can even make a commercial product with these features. However, artificial intelligence and learning capabilities are a different ballgame. I am very sceptical that a Chinese company can jump from "trying to figure out how to make a TPE doll" to high tech state of the art within a couple of months.

Take a look at the photos they are showing. These are the same pictures that are floating around for years, showing those old JY/Rifrano/Lifanou/Maiden Doll sculpts where nobody knows where they really come from. If *I* had this kind of state of the art high tech, I would make tons of own photos, showing every inch of my stuff. I would open a dedicated Youtube channel with an A.I. talk show, showcasing that she gets smarter every week and is able to outsmart Chris Hardwick. I would launch a firework with demos, proving how cool that stuff is.

If I actually have this kind of tech, I do not need to re-use dated pictures everybody else is using too for plain old 'dumb' dolls.

@abracadabra: Combining TPE with heating is a walk on a tightrope because TPE deforms at a certain temperature and even melts at higher temperatures. Hitdoll has played around with TPE and body heating, resulting in melted dolls. You can still find these pictures on TDF. GNSETC, the mother company of Hitdoll, was smart enough to abandon TPE because they wanted to focus on things like body heating, audio replay, and animatronics. That works much better with silicone because it is poured at room temperature, not injection molded at high temperatures like TPE.

I am aware that a number of TPE companies offer body heating. But it's still a bad idea. For anything more advanced - like animatronics - it's an even worse idea (imho).

Trying to make my point clearer - some advanced features are possible for dolls, others are not possible or do not make sense, because they would make the body heavy like a tank.
  • eye movement, lip movement, blinking eyelids - possible (standard SFX requirement; Z-Onedoll has it);
  • head movement - simple movements are doable (requiring strong servos; strong servos require a lot of power; so it either makes the doll very heavy, or she is bound to an external power supply); complex movements are currently not possible in a doll with reasonable weight and affordable price;
  • audio replay - possible (trivial; available in sex dolls for years);
  • body heating - possible (a lot of doll companies have it for years; some, but not all, have even managed to integrate temperature control);
  • speech synthesis and voice recognition - currently not possible in an autonomous doll because there just is not enough processing power that could be embedded into the available space within a sex doll;
  • artificial intelligence and learning capability - currently not possible in an autonomous doll (same reasons).
For speech synthesis and speech recognition, you will probably have to connect the doll to a computer and/or the Internet. For speech recognition, usually the spoken words are digitized into an compressed audio file and sent to a remote server for processing; in the end the interpreted text is returned as plain text. Google has a nice API for that, demonstrating voice recognition with automatic simultaneous translation. Companies like Google do have this tech - but do you want them to listen to your conversation with your robot doll? It's even the same IP address your robot sex doll will be using, so they can pool the data with your profile.

Even to simulate A.I., something similar is required. For example, MyRobotLab (a Python script, used by the 3D printable InMoov robot) runs on an external device like a tabet pc and allows to do recognize and answer a question - again, with the help of an Internet connection and Google.

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Just got to fit IBM Watson into the doll for the AI, easy ;)

Snakeoil indeed.

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WaffleAnomaly wrote:Just got to fit IBM Watson into the doll for the AI, easy ;)

Snakeoil indeed.
If the AI works on a very capable server instead on your device, it could work. Siri, Alexa and Cleverbot all work from a cloud. Locally operating AI won't work on a phone-sized computer. That Realdoll app is a good proof of this.
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[quote="Dollstudio
[*]speech synthesis and voice recognition - currently not possible in an autonomous doll because there just is not enough processing power that could be embedded into the available space within a sex doll;
[*]artificial intelligence and learning capability - currently not possible in an autonomous doll (same reasons).[/list]

For speech synthesis and speech recognition, you will probably have to connect the doll to a computer and/or the Internet. ...- again, with the help of an Internet connection and Google.

Sandro[/quote]

Yes! z-ondeoll claimes, that his robot is controled with smartphone. Therefore AI will be calculadet from the processor of the smartphone and with with help of the Cloud. Equal with Realbotix.

This part is not very expensive. I can do it with my Smartphone, my "Aritificial Intelligent Voice Control" aivc and a litte blutooth speaker at the doll.

It is good enaugh:

"Alice, willst du mit mir übernachten?"
"Lass mich kurz überlegen Robert, nein, ich will es nicht".
"Warum eigentlich nicht?"
"Ja, warum eigentlich nicht".

No Czech Lady speaks better german.

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Katka wrote: Yes! z-ondeoll claimes, that his robot is controled with smartphone. Therefore AI will be calculadet from the processor of the smartphone and with with help of the Cloud. Equal with Realbotix.

This part is not very expensive. I can do it with my Smartphone, my "Aritificial Intelligent Voice Control" aivc and a litte blutooth speaker at the doll.

It is good enaugh:

"Alice, willst du mit mir übernachten?"
"Lass mich kurz überlegen Robert, nein, ich will es nicht".
"Warum eigentlich nicht?"
"Ja, warum eigentlich nicht".

No Czech Lady speaks better german.
I already coded a very basic test for that since I got utterly frustrated with the "AI" that is Harmony from Realbotix. It's just all preprogrammed responses at the moment. Without any variation. You ask a question X and it always answers with an answer Y.

It's pretty easy to pre-program most common conversations and then dump some filler dialogue lines there just to keep the app talking. Even programming it so you could teach it lines and correct answers to lines is very doable. It just can't apply the information in any meaningful way. Neither can the "AI's" of current level though.

Would take few months to make it good enough to emulate the current AI's and double that to make it better in certain selected topics. Maybe I should do that.
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After seeing the video, achieving realistic facial expressions is still way off. Yes, Hollywood has been doing it for a long time. But they did it with a ton of money per each head and sometimes multiple heads to achieve different expressions. The amount of points of articulation to simulate real face muscle movement is still achievable cost effectively.

Another issue is (this includes Matt's AI dolls), is that the facial movements still dictates by engineers and programmers. In fact they should hire some animators who know how facial movements works. Hollywood did and is still doing it, although it's computer animators now. The pacing, the timing, all contributes to realistic expressions. Right now, it's "Hey it moves, hooray!! It would sell. Lets move on.". The expressions in the video looks like some speaking frog toy I made decades ago. :roll:

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:lol: Now where is that video I posted of KatKa's AI dolls with the IPAD stuck to the back of its head....



There we go....boner killer right there....

So....Lily..when you log back in you may need to explain how you do it without this tech ..as the whole demon mysticism thing...well..that is beyond me to explain... 8O

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Anung Un Rama wrote: There we go....boner killer right there....
You never know, some tech-freaks might get a boner just by looking at the touchscreen :mrgreen:
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More funny Videos of speaking and moaning dolls:

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