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Sanhui/DS hybrid: Who has done it or could try?

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Sanhui/DS hybrid: Who has done it or could try?

Post by nukeno »

Hi guys,

the title says it all, almost. ;)
Is it possible to combine a Sanhui body with a DS head? Is there an adapter?
Does anybody own dolls from both manufactures and could give it a try or explain how it would work or why maybe not?

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Pure coincidence 8O :!: - you're in luck. :wink:

Taken yesterday as I am contemplating selling the SH165 body:
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Ruby head on the original SH165 body, adapter available through DollStudio.

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Wow. Ruby looks nice an a sanhui body
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mi6c wrote:Pure coincidence 8O :!: - you're in luck. :wink:
Ruby head on the original SH165 body, adapter available through DollStudio.
Excellent! :-D
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Well, after sleeping over it another night and shifting decisive weights yet again I've decided to give her another chance, especially after samara's nice comment( Thanks, Sam!).

But for the record, if I had offered her at this time, the reason section would have read like this:
Rational reason: Am at/over full doll capacity and need space for possible next doll to experiment on.
Irrational reason: I do not like the boobies.

Now, do not get me wrong, I do like the overall sculpt your designers do manage to create and you do have a certain signature look that quite some people seem to like, so over all you may be more right than my humble opinion, but I just cannot ignore being distracted time and again by a slightly anorexic supermodel with all the right curves having breasts a porn star would desire.
Imho(= "in my humble opinion"), the boobs are actually most likely 2 cupsizes too large for her extremely petite frame( original 165, non-plus).
Again, imho, the 165+ is actually really a plus in most areas, having that structured skin and slightly beefed up arms and legs for an overall more healthy look, but to actually up the cup size by more than 1 instead of reducing it by at least the same amount means the distraction is staying if not increased.
I realize that this is a "sex doll", so maybe that translates to "boobs on sticks" as nukeno aptly described it elsewhere, but maybe you should consider staying with tall and slender for one more model( as you already have other nice models out) but with boobs being more of a natural match( somewhere in between http://iboughtadoll.com/archive and your precious current ones).

And since I reverted my decision to offer her for the time being I might as well add some of the pictures taken here:
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mi6c wrote: Irrational reason: I do not like the boobies.
Now, do not get me wrong, I do like the overall sculpt your designers do manage to create and you do have a certain signature look that quite some people seem to like, so over all you may be more right than my humble opinion, but I just cannot ignore being distracted time and again by a slightly anorexic supermodel with all the right curves having breasts a porn star would desire.
Imho(= "in my humble opinion"), the boobs are actually most likely 2 cupsizes too large for her extremely petite frame( original 165, non-plus).
Again, imho, the 165+ is actually really a plus in most areas, having that structured skin and slightly beefed up arms and legs for an overall more healthy look, but to actually up the cup size by more than 1 instead of reducing it by at least the same amount means the distraction is staying if not increased.
I realize that this is a "sex doll", so maybe that translates to "boobs on sticks" as nukeno aptly described it elsewhere, but maybe you should consider staying with tall and slender for one more model( as you already have other nice models out) but with boobs being more of a natural match( somewhere in between http://iboughtadoll.com/archive and your precious current ones).
I totally agree with you.
Unfortunately, i think the chances to see a SH165 with smaller, A or B cup breasts, like those remoulded by the guy of iboughtadoll are close to none.
I remember more then one thread about It, back when Kimi was still working for them, and It was like talking to the Wind.
And it's a pity, because such a doll, with all the latest innovations on the movable eyes, textured skin, gel implants and enhanced skeleton made by Sanhui, would be close to perfect...
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So the 145 DS head seems to fit the 165 SH body in terms of size as we see her standing, but could you post a photo of where the neck attaches to show if there is gap at all and to show if the silicone color tones of DS and SH are a good match. From this distance it appears so, but would like to see closeups if possible when you have a moment. Many thanks, Jazz

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You should keep her. She is a unique doll.
The neck and head fit will not be a perfect fit. The head should have more room as the neck is smaller
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jazzman wrote:So the 145 DS head seems to fit the 165 SH body in terms of size as we see her standing, but could you post a photo of where the neck attaches to show if there is gap at all and to show if the silicone color tones of DS and SH are a good match. From this distance it appears so, but would like to see closeups if possible when you have a moment. Many thanks, Jazz
Greetings.
Nice to see someone else interested.
Lets start with a picture ... I can then augment it with fewer words than I'd have to write without it. :wink:
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For once the original picture as taken by the camera.

First, as you can see the head is a very good fit to the body with respect to the contact area at the neck.
What you can also see is that it is a pretty good fit in terms of lightness.
The main problem here is the base color but that was to be expected, as the body is actually pretty pink-ish whereas the Ruby head is actually an ancient( pre-2015) yellow( I think, as no data could be obtained) - I would expect a current light pink DS head to be a really good match, but I do not have one so cannot verify and/or show.
Interestingly enough, as noted already, this does not matter much from a bit away, its only when you're really close that the difference becomes obvious.

Hope this helps.

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This is stunningly nice. You are a genius. Sue is truly remarkable.
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Do you think it would be possible to combine one of the DS145 heads with the new SH145- Body?

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Thanks for the closeups, works like a charm! And so this is the 145 DS head on the 165 SH body, and I would like to try one of the DS larger heads, like Thera or Mandy on the SH 165 body so maybe just a bit difference in sizing around neck?

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First off, thanks again @Samara, your very nice comment made my day.

Secondly @Rick - I recall what you describe and share the feeling but to be fair Sanhui actually did make their 145 available in 3 breast sizes now and I certainly applaud that move.
I hope they will sell all of them in reasonable amounts to validate the decision as I understand there is an increasing risk - especially with the not so tall dolls - when catering for lower cup sizes( due to our uphyped paranoid world).

Now for the more tricky answers to the questions of @skyknight and @jazzman that I will combine as they are related and just going in opposite directions so to speak.
To start with Sanhui themselves - they made a very informative post about putting their own heads onto the wrong doll so to speak when people asked about the mix and match in between the 14x and 16x sizes and had related pictures on their website.
I would have loved to link to them and think they should have been here:
http://www.sanhuidolls.com/intl-spare-h ... ccessories
as you can still see the informative text, but could not find them any more( they may still be inside a thread here on TDF somewhere).
Basically what they did is show a very visible gap when putting a 16x head on a 14x body.
Putting a 14x head on a 16x body should not be attempted as the too large neck will squash & distort and likely damage the delicate silicone lip of the head.
So we can now establish that the 14x body has a significantly smaller neck diameter than the 16x - and this is exactly the first piece of information you'll need: the neck diameter ... or, more likely diameters as it may not be perfectly round but more slightly oval, with the front/back and right/left axis having slightly different values.
Please note that this criteria also depends on your level of tolerance - that is you may accept a visible gap because you just love the head.

Now towards DollSweet, where the answer is slightly more complicated.
The usual impression is that there is a set of heads fitting the larger dolls and a set of heads( currently not seen on the US site) for the 145 range and on a very basic level that is true enough, however in detail their head range is not made up of two discrete levels( large, 145) but more a continuous spectrum with different quality matches.
I would recommend to take a look at the Arte Tokio website where you can see at least part of this acknowledged as some faces are recommended for the 13x only, some for 14x only but some also for both.
Some of the larger 145 heads would work on the tall but slim 163 models and some of the smaller heads from the big family may still look good on the 145s.
It should be clear that while both are lovely a Nina head will look just as bad on a 167(170) as a Thera head will look on a 145.
So - the one parameter you'll need to know is the one mentioned above, in this case the diameters of the oval flat area underneath the head - to see how well they would match with the neck values - here's some values of interest: My Sanhui 165 neck diameter: 72mm, Ruby head oval area diameters: 73mm*77mm, Thera head 82mm*90mm.
The other value is not really easy to measure but more a matter of estimation and educated guessing, namely how large the head will look in proportion to the body in question.
And again, your judgement is what makes the call, as you may tolerate more if you love something.
In general I find that there is some work area here, with slightly different effects and a slightly too small head can be compensated for with bigger hair, if slightly too big it may look a little more childish - if you leave the believable area though it just looks weird.

As I have neither seen any Sanhui 145 nor most of the DS heads in person I think giving you ideas what to look for is the best I can do.
Guessing, I would think that most of the 13x heads at Arte Tokio would work well on a Sanhui 145 as may the smaller of the 14x heads - mind the diameters/gap though.
I am not really familiar with Mandy, sorry, but I would think that a Thera head would look odd on my SH165 and likely even on the slightly more beefy 165+ - if you do not mind the neck gap and like the even more voluptuous breasts of the 165+ then maybe( *shrugs*) but I would only try it willing to resell the head if it turns out too odd.

Hope this helps you find the( hybrid) girl of your dreams.

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Great stuff mi6c
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samara78 wrote:Great stuff mi6c
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