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PassionDolls wrote:Interesting... I always though people like tranny with a large cock.
Yeah women love me for that reason. :haha4:

But seriously "tranny" sounds a bit harsh though. :whistle: "She-male", "Tranny" dude these terms are like wayyyy outdated, just saying, some might take offence.
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Bazinga wrote: Yeah women love me for that reason. :haha4:

But seriously "tranny" sounds a bit harsh though. :whistle: "She-male", "Tranny" dude these terms are like wayyyy outdated, just saying, some might take offence.
I don't know I'm straight. Gonna be kind of hard for a straight guy to build a shemale doll I guess. Sorry, if I offended anyone, not my intention.
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PassionDolls wrote:Interesting... I always though people like tranny with a large cock.
Im not into their sizes im more into their beauty and femininity and pounding that ass.id be cool with just getting a head sculpt of sarina and the 162 cm body or one similar with a big ass and big tits.i just enjoy big asses and big titties it doesnt matter if she has a dick or not .but everone is diffrent some people like being topped.

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PassionDolls wrote:I don't know I'm straight.
Just a quick fyi not just "gay" men are into trans women, most straight or bi guys are attracted to beautiful women, trans or not. Funny thing I have straight guys hit on me all the time but I'm not attracted to them at all(I only like women), see everyone is different. If a guy thinks a trans woman is attractive doesn't make him gay because he sees a beautiful woman, which she is. Hey I won't go through the whole thing, I want to say on topic here but, no I wasn't offended just helping you to understand a little more. :D :thumbs_up:

If you just make the doll beautiful and feminine it would be a slam dunk with the people looking for these dolls. :D
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@Bazinga: Thanks for the explanation and info. Good to know.

Haven't thought much about these types of doll, but definitely something to think about.
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Since we are talking about customizations is There any possibility of making dolls with custom skins like these cosplayer.im more interested in the purple skin girl named widowmaker from overwatch.
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PassionDolls wrote:@Bazinga: Thanks for the explanation and info. Good to know.
As Bazinga said... be careful with "tranny". To me, that word is a harsh insult and most trans people think so. But no worries, I don't feel insulted, because a) you don't know and b) it's a very different thing if you talk about a trans doll and the interests of their potential market, or real life women born in the wrong body. Both don't have much to do with each other. Anyhow, why tranny is an insult to me? Well for one thing, it's trans this and that and whatnot in one word, all starting with trans: transsexual, transgender, transvestite and so on. While all those don't have much to do with each other and are very different. Whereas (apart from my past body) I am a very normal regular woman, and I've ever been that since I can remember time on the inside. That's again why I prefer transsexual, if the topic is about that birth defect, because that word means I identify with the female sex and gender clearly, and transitioned as far as possible to just blend in with the other women on earth.

As we already mentioned gay and straight and so on, that's another major misunderstanding out there. Most think, being trans has to do with sexual desires or partner preferences and so on. This is as wrong as one can get. In fact, trans people can be as much hetero, homo or bi as the rest of people can be. Being trans is solely about the body you feel for yourself, the inner picture of yourself you see in the inner mirror, but not in the real one, it is what your innerly felt own body landscape looks like. :wink:

Just saying. You seem interested in not accidentally saying wrong things.

Back to topic, there is a market for those dolls. But that market will be cis men (men born in the correct body, opposite of trans) and it will be those to maybe have a small gay touch that might make them want a mixture of female beauty and male genital. Most trans women won't be that interested. Again, there is a huge difference between shemale fans and shemales themselves. Shemale sites often advertise with something like "best of both worlds", which is true for those surfing those sites. Now some shemales stay shemale, because it is what they want. But for most trans women out there, the one world is what they want to be, always have been on the inside, but the other world is worst nightmare ever they just want to leave behind and never look back.


To do a good shemale doll, you really just have to know a few dozen nice shemales out there and compare them to fully transitioned trans woman and born women. The only difference is that thing down there. Most trans women go as female as they can, show as much femininity as their past (wrong puberty) allows them. Many place more importance on femininity than many born women do, starting with a huge need to make up for the female life they couldn't live before. So, basically, make her look beautiful and cute, clearly female, with a small difference down there. Then you will have a perfect trans doll, attracting those to buy and a doll where trans women will want to have that body, just not as a doll but for the real thing. ;)

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Vanessa wrote:Shemale sites often advertise with something like "best of both worlds", which is true for those surfing those sites. Now some shemales stay shemale, because it is what they want.
Hey Vanessa,
I guess you were referring to trans woman that keep their original "equipment" but I must say some believe if a trans woman doesn't get gender reassignment that their not a woman, but that's not true. A persons sexual organs have nothing to do with gender, a one must truly be sure if gender reassignment surgery as it's not for every trans person, just like some people perfer short hair and some perfer long hair. Also for some there are medical conditions that keep them from getting surgery. Gender reassignment surgery is serious business with a very long and painful recovery that shouldn't be taken lightly. Not to mention the very high risk that a person can lose all sensitivity in their lower regions and never feel sexual pleasure again due to the sugery.

For me personally I've choosen to keep my "equipment" because 1) I love sexual pleasure(and I didn't want to risk it), because since I'm only attracted to women why would I take away what works for me and my lady. 2) I've had it my whole life so I'm more just used to it, if it ain't broke I'll keep it lol, well at least for me. I definitely won't list all the other reasons so I'll save you the TMI. But let's just say I'm happy with me choice, I choose to perfect my face and body, yes I'm shallow lol, but my point is if a trans woman has the surgery or not has no value on who she is as a woman. Keeping what you was born with doesn't make you a "she-male" or a "tranny", we are all just simply trans women. Please don't take that as an attack, I love you sis, just like I love all my fellow trans sisters. :D

But to get back on topic, yes I agree just make a doll that looks like a gorgeous woman with a little something extra and that would be fine. For years people have been buying dolls that are female faces and bodies with the penis attachment, or some switch their dolls back and fourth between penis attachment and vaginal insert also something you mightwant to keep in mind when creating your trans doll. For some people versatility is key in a doll so maybe if I was you i would avoid permanent genitala so buyer has a choice. If not you would be faced with the "oh that dolls face and body is great but only if she had a penis, or only if she didn't have a penis I would buy her" type of comments therefore narrowing your demographic and thus narrowing your profits. Well I hope all that helped. :D
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I offer my following opinions and experiences which I hope may shed some light on an area that people are only familiar with through the porn industry. I also speak in generalities because there are many differing opinions and levels of tolerance from within the trans community. Many of the views are an aggregate of the most vocal people on transgenderdate dot com. Bazinga and Vanessa offer other important view points.

I am also offering a United States based viewpoint. Viewpoints and terms differ in some areas of Asia.

I had a very nice neighbor who was transgender. Then met several more Trans women. Then I dated one and we are still friends. I always refer to them as women except in discussions like this. Most of them would prefer to leave their past behind and live entirely as women. It is not a "lifestyle" choice but a birth defect.

The term shemale is generally used by those wanting to make a profit from this birth defect. .... A lot of times they do this because of discrimination in the job market.

I am a longtime member of a Transgender forum and dating site. I can only speak in generalities of those vocal women who post. The majority want a Top male. They tend to despise men who want to be topped. They also have to put up with men and couples looking for "something different"; a woman with a penis. When once they go on hormones they can no longer get an erection and some want nothing to do with that area of their body. They want lasting relationships and do not want to be some bored persons or couples experiment. These are the view points of the most vocal members. Though there are some that are fully accepting of their situation.

It also seems that the majority of men on that site expect the women to top them. Again, I speak for the vocal majority on that site. You can see the mixture of conflicting fantasies and realities here.

The term shemale is considered to be a porn industry term, people profiting from a birth defect. But even the more respectful sites use the term transgender. I would avoid using the term shemale just like you would avoid using the N word for your dark skinned dolls. Though it seems that the term shemale is used or embedded with meta data so search engines will pick it up. Because this is sometimes the only term people know from the porn industry which is an incredibly narrow viewpoint of Transgender people.

What the porn industry displays Transgender women as is the exact opposite of how many Transgender women wish to be viewed. It also seems that many vocal people that are in power tend to do their research on this topic by viewing only porn.

So if you are going to make a T-Girl doll, use the "S" word where only search engines will see it and offer the buying public some education on the reality of T-Girls.
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Hi Cyclist,
You make alot of great points, thank you for your wonderful post, we must all work together to educate on a topic that some know little about. I wholeheartedly agree with your statement that most trans women want to just be called women, myself included. I am definitely not ashamed of who I am yet I don't walk around with a shirt that says "HEY I'M TRANS" either lol. Actually no one knows I'm trans but my girlfriend, women I've slept with in the past, my surgeons, and you guys(though you can't see me, mu ha ha ha ha) lol. Everyone else just knows me as just (insert real name here) and I perfer it that way, heck it's no one's business unless we are planning to date or sleep together.

Now one critique I would make is not all trans women have erection issues while on hormones. I was on hormones for years and never had a problem, but everyone is different. Now with me the only side effect was after a few months I stopped producing sperm(sorry for the overshare) now after about six months to a year of being off hormones a person can start to be able to produce it again but even then no erection issues, as well as no issues feeling an orgasm(I feel so bad, I can just see the sheer look of terror on a straight guys face while reading this,sorry) :oops: , but hey we women do have an oversharing problem sometimes. It's the same reason why guys never join there girlfriends or wifes on girls night out lol.
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Hey guys and gals, I must admit I learn a lot about transgender/shemale in this thread. I'm sure some others do too.
Spartan898 wrote:Since we are talking about customizations is There any possibility of making dolls with custom skins like these cosplayer.im more interested in the purple skin girl named widowmaker from overwatch.
It's going to be hard, not sure if it is doable especially with the purple, blue or green color. Pink more likely OK as it it more close to the skin tone color.
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Some more pics.i really do hope a head is made atleast .the body can just be adapted from the curvy voluptuous bodies available.
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cyclist wrote: I always refer to them as women except in discussions like this. Most of them would prefer to leave their past behind and live entirely as women. It is not a "lifestyle" choice but a birth defect.

You can see the mixture of conflicting fantasies and realities here.

What the porn industry displays Transgender women as is the exact opposite of how many Transgender women wish to be viewed.
Those are some of the most reasonable things I ever read from someone not suffering that birth defect himself / herself. And in fact, a birth defect is what describes it best. It's an organ coming to be during pregnacy, because it is written in the DNA, and an inner gender identity imprint, that is written in just the same DNA. There is a study showing that a trans woman's brain structure is much closer to female brains than to male brains, before hormone therapy already.

As for words again, there are many more. Some sound more insulting than others do, often, people just don't know. And yes, those terms go with local differences. In my country (Germany), we learn English as a foreign language, so often, we're more aware of the linguistical differences between sex and gender than the native speakers are, even more so in slang. As I said, I prefer transsexual. Shemale I never minded as a description of the status pre-surgery, as I said, but that's all. I don't see the need to be insulted, but most do. I guess many people tend to think ladyboy would be less insulting, but same association to porn industry, same parts of the word used. Plus, strictly speaking, that's Asien girls doing without much medical treatment (cannot afford it). Here, most think the Thai girls have the jackpot, because they have an oh so fine word for themselves, being "katoey". But sorry, I'm trying to learn some Thai (for being thankful, it's where I had my surgery, instead of German crap surgery), katoey is just another insult as for where the word comes from, and originally it's something in between of gay and hermaphrodite, or even more "sex in between". Those Thai girls having done sex reassignment surgery will prefer "kathoey phleng phet", which means "sex in between that changed sex", which then translates back to "transsexual"... ...because: "transsexuality" in Thai is "phawaa yaak phlen phet" meaning "condition of wanting to change sex".

No matter how you turn it, the only reasonable word will be woman, or if you want and it's what we talk about, trans woman. It's a bit like me living "semi-stealth", if that makes sense. Yes it does, because I don't mind helping my ex-boyfriend with the CSD booth for his forum, but in normal life, no one noticed I wasn't born a girl and I for sure don't tell. :D
Bazinga wrote:For me personally I've choosen to keep my "equipment" because 1) I love sexual pleasure(and I didn't want to risk it), because since I'm only attracted to women why would I take away what works for me and my lady. 2) I've had it my whole life so I'm more just used to it, if it ain't broke I'll keep it lol, well at least for me. I definitely won't list all the other reasons so I'll save you the TMI. But let's just say I'm happy with me choice, I choose to perfect my face and body, yes I'm shallow lol, but my point is if a trans woman has the surgery or not has no value on who she is as a woman. Keeping what you was born with doesn't make you a "she-male" or a "tranny", we are all just simply trans women. Please don't take that as an attack, I love you sis, just like I love all my fellow trans sisters. :D
Nah we're totally fine. :D Yes, there are many reasons why to not do this surgery, health, money., surgical results (those in Germany mostly are more like genital mutilation than what it's supposed to be) and so on. I always tell the girls in Germany's biggest transsexual forum I run with my ex that they please pretty please only do this step if it's the last way out. As long as you can still innerly cope with the original organ, stick to it. Healing is hell, takes time and it's well worth the pain, but only, if a vagina is what you see in your inner body landscape. Even more so, as sex reassignment doen't add any passing on top, this one is just for the innerly felt body. And also, never do it for anybody else but you.

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PassionDolls wrote:Interesting... I always though people like tranny with a large cock.
There are definitely markets for both. I prefer a giant cock on a feminine body just for the visual stimulation. I think if you guys just offered an insert I'd be more interested in that. I love the body types already so seeing a beer can girthed 10 incher hanging off of one would be amazing. Semi erect would be perfect. Just for visual while wearing panties or for flop action during sex.

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