Hi all,

please be a bit patient,
i need some time to answer,
here is some stuff i made last months

http://www.dollalbum.com/dollgallery/th ... album=4956

please look at this to see the shipping costs,
if i understand right a blow up doll has no awful shipping costs if it is under 5kg,
and it is under 5 kg in the normal case
http://www.dhl.de/en/paket/privatkunden ... paket.html

I am thinking to offer doll-kits, this can reduce the price for people who can stick the parts together,
it is just one idea.

What do you think about that?

cheers
Foreverdolls

I can buy the doll kit but I preffer with out head, I have someones. I admire your project Foreverdolls and the idea of made some parts softer to the touch and others harder for durability and doll positions . I like this one. I know that you can create the the best latex doll. Please don't stop working and continue share your ideas with us. Please cuote one for me by private message.

hi Foreverdolls , you never mentioned about the price but maybe you are figuring up different ways first (kits , etc. to determine the prices . )
I looked over your many photo's of the doll , you have done a very good job on the doll , i see some places that could be improved on "if" you don't mind me telling you , i see you have done many improvements and probably will improve it even more if you can .
Let me know if it's okay for me to mention what i think are area's that can be improved on to make this doll the best latex doll available anywhere . i wrote down notes on different area's .
I remember very early pics of your doll, Your doll looks nice you have come a long way on it as far as improvements, i am glad this is a standing position doll !
one good idea would be to sell the body with and without a head as an option .

Also i see how you made the body stronger on some area's , have you ever thought of getting a thin pattern for ribs and maybe rear shoulder blades so it would show up a little under the skin ? , this of course would have to be tested to see how it looks , just an idea.

Hi timetraveler,

the only thing to save latex dolls for us is building dolls,
my part/share is to give my experience and maybe sell some of my dolls.

i can do inflatable hands,
i can also stuff them and fix them,
or i can put them into the packet so that you can
stuff them in the way you need. Or stuffed hands which also are inflatable.
Also vinylhands can be
attached and removed, there is a stump at the end of the arms. Myself , i like soft stuffed hands, i know that some people exclusive like infatable hands.
I cast the hands in gysum molds, the hands are the most difficult parts of the doll. I don't want to make them with seams.
You can't turn the inside out, so i have to make gysum molds, not every mold makes good results, it needs to dry, and after
3 casts they get little bubbles, it is a big effort then to make them nice enough to sell and not every hand i can sell.

My technic is different to the usual dipping technic.
I brush the mold, this can't be smoothe like a skin, so i turn the inside out. There is no other way for me, and there are little thicker parts under the breasts and a stronger butt cleft. I can do this as careful as i can, these parts you can always see, but during you use the doll, you don't feel it too much.

Thanks for the idea to make pattern for ribs ond other things you can see or feel at the surface, maybe that would work, but i think not in the way we have the imagination. Air in closed rubber will always blow everything deeper volumes out, par example, i must do the dorsal as flat as i can at the mold, or the doll gets a round dorsal. A nice backbone would make a round dorsal.
The next mold i want do do is a fat girl with very big breasts, i think breasts can hang, but this would be more for the feeling than for a realistic optic. Wonderful to touch and under clothes. The entry where the breasts come out must be much smaller, you know the letha-breats...this way but much less diameter. The result should be hanging breasts. These breasts can be filled for more weight, closing breats of usual latex dolls (I tried this too often) will result in bad optics at the surface.

I don't use an air brush, maybe a small one can work for smaller parts, my test to brush a complete dollskin with a big airbrush (for cars) was awful, awful rubber-fog in the complete room and my lung, the filter of the compressor is closed in 2 minutes,
it needs a very long time to clean the pistol and if there is just a thin layer left in the pistol it is damaged. I damaged 2 pistols, that was enough to see that the effort is much bigger than the quality of the result. The small fog balls dry in the air before they reach the surface of the mold, the surface was not as smooth as a
dipped skin or a skin made with my technic on a smooth sanded mold. A small airbrush for artists i didn't test, but i have to do this because maybe that could a good way to repair old dolls which became spongy.

Some people need a tan skin, some like white skins, this is just a question of the pigments i put into the latex.
I understand your imagination, with a hand- brush like i use it is not possible because you see the borders, it works, but i guess it can't be done with out an airbrush. I can test this when i have bought a small air brush. To apply a brown half transparent layer over a more white skin can make the complete skin optik more human.

I can do the same inside in every latex doll, the jana cova i made stronger was for a customer who likes more drag, it is always the same with these dolls, the vinyl inside damages and after that it is an air balloon.
To repair the vinyl is crazy in my eyes, even if i can make it stronger and much more flexible with my technic.
This also means that the shape is better, the air pressure is higher, the inserts are more tight.
I have more options inside my selfmade skins because i can build the skin from the first layer and use different latex to get a complex skin.
I can make the skins for a better inflatable doll or for a better skin to stuff, i say fill the doll...it is too much to explain in every little detail. My dolls are very complex, it is the combination of many parameters that make my dolls as good as they are to use.

I found a new technic to stretch breasts separately, it this works after have done this a few times i will let you know, my first test was promising. This can be a good alternative way, building a new mold needs a lot af time.

I can build everything you need, also complete dolls,
or skins to fill, different kinds of inserts, different hands,
but i have not all molds ready. Please give me some time, i want to do fair prices, you see that it is more difficult with all these options than selling a domax doll.

Forerverdolls

Hi timetraveller,

please don't be afraid to give improvements and ideas. I am still learning.
For some improvements I must make tests to see if it works, some ideas i tested say that it does not work.
I know the stuff latex very well, it is a big difference between thin skins and thick skins. Thick latex often is too strong,
par example, i could build in real casted labia for a good optic but they wouldn't work for a soft penetration feeling,
if i would make them thinner so that they would work, the labia wouldn't be as durabele as the rest of the doll.
I want to build (and i do that) dolls that last for many years, this always needs compromises optic/feeling...and the nature of the durability says that thin latex isn't as durable as thicker latex. You can't compare usual latex dolls with my dolls.

Durable teeth are too strong, also you can't cut a durable latex mouth and get a good feeling at the top of your naked penis, a good working blow job means a diameter of 3,5 cm minimum and it must be round.

A deeper butt crack...i try my best to fight against physical facts. No latex doll has a butt, my bigger doll has more butt cheeks than these dolls and my small doll has butt cheeks that you can hold in your hand to move the doll in the way a girl would move. I know that this but is a little bit too big for our eyes, but under the blanked you can move the doll butt , i must make a film to show that.
https://rapidshare.com/files/1847422123/MOV00743.MPG

Bigger arolas for bigger breasts aren't a problem..next mold. There are actually 3 molds worldwide. One in France, and 2 (jana Cova/ tera patrick Miranda/jesse jane/domination donna) in china i guess. That means that a smal man without money for investments which is alone would have as much different molds as the rest of the world. Yes i 'm crazy.

Pigments work different, gypsum molds suck the pigments , that means the same coloured latex makes different colour in these molds or if i brush. The skin is brushed. It isn't much, but it is. I can build the hands seamless, its just a bigger effort. Dipped or brushed hands look either than fingers of a butcher or like the feet of a duck.

You are right with the neck, it is too long, i'll fix that.
I don't know if all standart necks have the same area, i'll look what the average is, i have lots of different vinyl heads to see that.

Please forgive that i explain so much, what a thick latex and my technics can do or not is often not the same like the imagination of creative people with less self doing latex experience.

Please don't stop giving me your imaginations.

This is the tread how to vanish latex dolls,
i make a new tread where we can talk about my work and what i can do for you.

One way to save standart latex dolls is to tell more about we use them and how they feel,
there are many beginners who buy a vinyl doll because they don't know how a latex doll feels, we must make promotion for this kind of dolls, they are all worth that.

F.

Foreverdolls wrote: One way to save standart latex dolls is to tell more about we use them and how they feel,
there are many beginners who buy a vinyl doll because they don't know how a latex doll feels, we must make promotion for this kind of dolls, they are all worth that.

F.






AGREE

To forever dolls , i have suggested many things and from what i have seen you have done those corrections to your doll or figured it out on your own that it needed improving , from the very last pics i saw up close of your doll the only thing i can see now that looks like it needs improving is the outer skin and by that i mean that the outer skin i mean the skin looked very rough instead of smooth as it should be ( as seen on latex dolls on the market ).
I believe if you can ever get this corrected your doll will be ready for the market and if priced reasonable should sell good . I would if it was me when you get the doll made that good put on some nice looking make up (painted on like i and fabin have done on ours) , i would sell the eye pupil kits to , they really add to a dolls looks .
I really hope that you can acheive the doll having nice smooth outer skin , you have come so far and achieved so much (the actual butt crack depth and butt cheeks is my favorite that you created !) please don't give up now , you have created so much i know you'll be able to over come this to ! We hope to hear more from you on your doll!

Hi

in the moment i try to make the best doll for sexual use,
i found that my doll in the video can come very near,
it is really not only a good optic that can reach your soul,
a doll that moves like this doll reaches your soul too,
it is just a question of a natural feeling and moving. This is a new experience for me.

i also fixed the butt of my bigger model,
i am building a black doll for a customer, she will be more watertight than usual because she often goes out to swim in a lake. The pict shows a fast made skin to see if the new but at the mold works.

and a picts of my newest doll, not finished yet


https://rapidshare.com/files/2964815983 ... y_doll.MPG

greets F.

Hi ForeverDolls,
I heard of your big name for a long time(since i just registered TDF early this year,by my interest searching and then great recommended by my friend Mr.Titman ),and i keep noticing you for so long a time too.
I'm so appreciating your work,even i had quoted,edit,and uploaded your 2 test videos 3 months ago on my local dollforum(pls regret me without your permision but I remarked the source from.you can see the chinese thread here) .The thread initiated a number of disscussion about whether the "powerful" or the "beautiful" is more important of a sexdoll-made.5,000+ clicks and 260+ replies till now.

I keep up following your creation and manufacturing,after my rebirth from learning what's a sex doll would be now.you can see my sign below,that's my point.i think we are meeting.

yesterday when i found this post,the video file you posted is unavailable,and i visit the photoes all over your album.it's not enough to prove what you said great.but today i download your newest video,it has very powerful expression.i mean the doll's nearly 90 percent to what i need and what the other sexdoll men like you and me will want.i thind the left 10 is modified and not worthy to care with more work.Just do what you insist!

now i will ask you some questions and can you answer me here open or pm,email is all right:
1)to simplify and give a standard for business,can you give me the dolls measurment,price and modify options,fee?
2)if i ordered and paid,how long can you finished and shipped from Germany?
3) i want to intro your dolls and quote your video source for my local friends,pls authorize me.

sincerely,

Charles

please don't take this the wrong way but hzzf are you a production business company or have friends that are ? and are you offering forever dolls a contract for use of his doll design ??? copywrites ?

and to forever dolls i hope you have a copy write and patent on your design or should get it!
forever doll when will your doll go into production to the public and have you set a price ?
As i said i would like one depending on the cost * can you take payments? doll is shipped after last payment? ***** If you can get the doll outer skin smooth (that is important to me personally).

Hi,

up to 50 hours of hand building, also no chinese factory can do this and sell these dolls for an acceptable price.
The pice of my mold to make a copy is 10.000 eu.
My dolls made of liquid latex, this must dry. Just a simple doll like these dolls you can get on the market can be made in china or somewhere else.

But ....i made a test for you. Vanishing, one way is building your dolls for your own.
There is a small vinyl doll on the market. It is called midget, its a fun-doll, not really a sex doll.
See what you can do. If you need a latex doll, you can use this small doll for cheapest experiments till your technic of brushing latex and sticking is perfect enough to build a big , usable doll.
One small doll is enough and 10-15 dollar for a brush and liquid latex+vulkanisation glue.
You can't do a cheaper training and see the same result like you will get with a big vinyl.

The picts show the problems you will get,
what i can say is that the skin is very smooth and the seams show inside, you don't feel them much with your fingertips.
I don't try to make this perfect, this is your part, i just can show that it works. But you can always make a pn for support working with liquid rubber or make an own thread if you want to test this too.
We are save now with latex dolls, everyone can do this.

F.