Hey everybody,

I have a question in to Hiroo right now that may also be of interest to some of you out there thinking about ordering your own 4Woods doll. They are just about ready to pour the silicon for my dolls. So the other day while anticipating how nice the whole body soft skin is going to feel, a thought occured to me which made me a little anxious. Specifically, will the combination of the soft stomach feature with the new whole body soft skin yield a belly that sags too much?

Along with the glowing reviews of how nice the soft stomach feels, the reviewers have pointed-out that when the doll is sitting-up the doll's belly sags a little bit. This fact is clearly pointed-out on the 4Woods order form. So a little bit of slouching is natural, and does not bother me. However, if now with the combination of the all over soft skin this effect is more pronounced, I may in fact remove the soft stomach feature from my order.

While it is natural for breasts to bend to the laws of gravity, on a relatively fit person the abdomenal region should not flex near as much.

If anyone has any thoughts on this I would like to hear them, of course, I will share whatever Hiroo has to say on this subject.

Cheers

Well I should check but if thats true what you write I guess you should keep your doll in a neutral lying position (adviced anyway) and in that case you should be 100% safe. I personally would more like a soft butt then soft stomach but I guess that will be trickier for compression and maybe the reason you dont read a lot about it.

But I am sure you will tell us all once your get your love doll

Hi Skybird,

According to the 4Woods website the butt is soft now as well. Although, I don't think it has a gel insert like the soft stomach. Fortunately, I have a memory foam mattress ready in the spare bedroom.

Cheers

saggy? no, its soft i can tell you that... but it's not that soft... and it feels pretty nice...

Hello,

You have the soft stomach feature on your Evolution? It was my understanding that feature is only available on the Neo IM (and maybe the new AI Doll S+, it is not available on the new Neo-J/ IM.) I am not referring to the whole body soft skin, which is different.

Cheers

When ordering via Doll Story (4Woods Europe), this is no option, it is standard on all bodies (so I understand).

I expect my Peach to arrive within about three weeks. I will tell you and show her when she's here

Hey guys!!

First off. That tummy is the SHIT. Sorry to swear but I feel like Tom Cruise jumping on the couch. It's the most realistic tummy I've ever had on a doll. I don't know how he got the skin to "slide" like that but it's incredibly realistic. The only time you'll get creases is if you bend the doll at the waist which while not entirely natural is what would be expected from a "real" person. I would never store the doll like that. When she's resting there's no sag. The doll has a natural little pouch which I think is intentional and I find incredibly sexy.

To touch this tummy is magic. It feels so real! I wish y'all could be here and check it out for yourself.

The butt is very soft, the best yet. I haven't seen any compression but am being very careful by keeping her in a reclining position with a lot of pillows and lumbar support.

The silicone softness overall for me takes the doll one more step closer to realism. The whole doll is fun to stroke and touch.from the lips to the toes. There's a small area that's had some peeling. Hiroo's sent me the repair kit but still waiting for instructions.

The other part is the detailing which is the complementary visual eye candy to the tactile sensation. The shins, the calves, wow, like a beautiful dancer. The detailing on the feet and hands.

I'm really really happy with this doll. I try to use my other dolls but it's difficult. She reminds me why getting all the areas soft is so important. Together they make a sensual whipped cream confection of sexual beauty.

I used to have to depend more on creating the fantasy mentally to overcome deficits like hard(er) silicone or aesthetic missteps but now I'm just enjoying the experience. As a result this doll has presence that none before (including my older 4woods) had (although all the dolls I have now I think are awesome).

But this doll? This doll is a freaking rockstar! (searches for rocker smiley)

Downsides? Now many but a few niggling points after about a month with this doll. The peeling area is one. The other is the vagina. I have a very small tear beginning at the apex of the insertion site. I am going to do a nylon reinforcement (which I've done for other dolls).

Hmm. I think I've just written my 60 day review

Hi Guys,

Thanks for the 60 day review Zarnon, and basically answering the question about whether the belly sags too much when combined with the new whole body soft skin. That was the impression that I got from Hiroo, although I was not sure he understood my meaning. Reading your review makes it that much harder to wait for my dolls, but it should not be long now.

And Nescio you might just double check that your Peach is going to have the soft stomach. Hiroo told me that option was not possible on the Neo-J/IM. So I will have one doll with that feature and one without it. Should be interesting contrasting the two.

Cheers

Hello again,

I just reread Hiroo's post to me, and I may have misunderstood him. I thought he was saying that the soft stomach feature was not available on the Neo-J/IM. But, what he might have been saying is that he had no photographs yet of this feature on the new Neo-J/IM.

I will find out soon what he meant.

Cheers

my Evolution do has soft tummy. I bought her 4 months ago...

Yes. My new Neo-J has a soft stomach as well as my new Neo IM, so it must be a feature available on all 4Woods dolls. I hopefully can post pictures soon, and then a review to follow.

I expect my new AI Peach to arrive tomorrow she's on her way, just got the FedEx tracking code
I have no doubt she'll have a soft tummy, but tomorrow I'll know for sure and I'll let you know. So then we have prove of all 4Woods bodies

Niiice!

To answer my own question: no the soft belly does not sag too much in a sitting position, combined with the whole body soft skin, as determined by my observation.

Below are some pictures Hiroo sent me a month ago to illustrate the point.

Her tummy does not sag that badly... in fact she looks a little more natural in that her tummy sags a little.