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 Post subject: Re: 4woods Fixed vagina VERY BAD!!!
PostPosted: Tue Nov 30, 2010 2:46 pm 
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Hi,
I have the same issue. I like the doll a lot and I would buy her again. Only the vagina was too tight. I cut it a bit on the top which makes sex a lot better. Still I have the feeling that the material is too hard.

I read that the 2010 model has been improved but I am not sure if you can retrofit other material lips into a doll. Should be possible.
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 Post subject: Re: 4woods Fixed vagina VERY BAD!!!
PostPosted: Tue Nov 30, 2010 8:26 pm 
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My Valerie's labia kept taring and was hard, so I replaced it with PIB 'Big Clit' amd problem solved.
If you have an insert, then a PIB insert ,may work.
He does make one also.(toonist)

He was very helpful and it was a decision I never regret.

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 Post subject: Re: 4woods Fixed vagina VERY BAD!!!
PostPosted: Wed Dec 01, 2010 12:29 pm 
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I don't undestand, The labia PIB is just a LABIA or a complete insert?


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 Post subject: Re: 4woods Fixed vagina VERY BAD!!!
PostPosted: Wed Dec 01, 2010 1:22 pm 
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Yeah, it's just the labia.



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 Post subject: Re: 4woods Fixed vagina VERY BAD!!!
PostPosted: Wed Dec 01, 2010 1:55 pm 
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Oh ok So the labia don't corect the problem of size too small.


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 Post subject: Re: 4woods Fixed vagina VERY BAD!!!
PostPosted: Wed Dec 01, 2010 4:04 pm 
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4 woods are for 13cmwtf, i'm glad i ddont want a 4woods i'd have problems getting into her noneret (size wise) wth 13cm, thats well bellow the average...


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 Post subject: Re: 4woods Fixed vagina VERY BAD!!!
PostPosted: Wed Dec 01, 2010 4:21 pm 
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English unit translation:
4Woods are for 1-3/4" in diameter to at most just shy of 2" in diameter at widest width distance - thats WELL BELOW average.

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 Post subject: Re: 4woods Fixed vagina VERY BAD!!!
PostPosted: Fri Dec 03, 2010 1:23 pm 
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woods are for 13cmwtf, i'm glad i ddont want a 4woods i'd have problems getting into her noneret (size wise) wth 13cm, thats well bellow the average...


Non-erect at 13 cm puts you at 5.9 inches at or above average depending who you study.

As far as a small opening. Any of you guys ever seen a Japanese insert? What's the opening size? It isn't how big it is but if it streches or not. We're not talking about trying to put your dick in concrete.

Now the labia? Yes, I think it is the least attractive part of the doll. It's also one of the cheapest things to swap out/change. I agree it should this is the area that should be the softest. Of course the labia on my RD B4 had to be replaced and my current B2 is torn. The PIB labia sounds great. I think some US mfr have really stepped up their game and Japan needs to take note.



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 Post subject: Re: 4woods Fixed vagina VERY BAD!!!
PostPosted: Fri Dec 03, 2010 1:45 pm 
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ADHERAQ777 wrote:
Oh ok So the labia don't corect the problem of size too small.

It might, because I recall your problem was that you couldn't enter, but the inside of the vagina was wide enough.



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 Post subject: Re: 4woods Fixed vagina VERY BAD!!!
PostPosted: Fri Dec 03, 2010 4:04 pm 
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Carolinesguy wrote:
ADHERAQ777 wrote:
Oh ok So the labia don't corect the problem of size too small.

It might, because I recall your problem was that you couldn't enter, but the inside of the vagina was wide enough.


Oh no. i will try explain better with my english :

I can enter, in begin it is OK, but at half, very very difficult to enter, holes become very tight.
And at bottom, impossible, hole is too tight.

So I have sexe only in begin vagina.

Hirro answer to a menber that a chirurgy operation is necessaray for put vagina insert, he have no solution for do better size hole.

So I will try dildo put in her several days, for increase size hole.

This is my think now :
Vagina 4woods is very hard, material the more bad I had try (fleshlight, Toy hearth, Doc Johnson.....), but if your size is less than 13am cironferential, you can to have sexe with her.
For me I have better 13cm, sexe is very difficult, I can enter only in begin vagina, so I will try put her dildo some days to see.
Lips is hard too, but you can enter.

I think fix vagina is not good idea, just for picture take her, but for sex this solution is bad. With this solution material is hard, for durability, and you don't can ajust for your size with select a nice insert.


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 Post subject: Re: 4woods Fixed vagina VERY BAD!!!
PostPosted: Sat Jun 25, 2011 7:19 am 
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I come back, :mrgreen:

I have try put dildo inside her vagina 15days, sexe is a bit better, but I can enter only at 40%, I have try to enter more and....

BREAK BRAKE ON SEXE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :microwave: :microwave: :microwave:

I have wait 10days for health and now ok.

So I will try put her dildo for 20days, this time.

A user french buyed a "Im", he says that sexe has changed, better "evo".


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 Post subject: Re: 4woods Fixed vagina VERY BAD!!!
PostPosted: Thu Dec 22, 2011 6:53 pm 
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I come back!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :multi:

For my dolls AI EVOLUTION 2010 fixe vagina I have Fund a solution!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I speak by mail with Hiroo, Doll story (europe)..... and nobody know how do for resolve my problem that I can enter inside.....

So!!!!!!!

I take a Knife :
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And I cut her Pussy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :snipersmile:
CUT CUT CUT CUT CUT CUT CUT CUT

And I see that very bad pussy is a insert, the more bad insert in world, or the best for break Brake ......
I remove lips, cut again and remove the bad insert :

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Lips and insert are past with glue transparent, so it is easy to cut not too, stop when you see tranparent glue.

This insert is very hard, I don't understand how to have sexe with plastic hard..... (AI EVO IM 2011 has a new vagina now make in cyber skin.....)

So I put a cyberskin insert inside cavity, I take my smalest insert because cavity is very small :
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Cut with army cut not very clean.
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I put cloth inside for that insert don't enter too in depth.
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With insert Cyber Skin :
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Now sexe is possible!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :glou:


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 Post subject: Re: 4woods Fixed vagina VERY BAD!!!
PostPosted: Fri Dec 23, 2011 11:29 am 
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Hi,

Edit: removed rule 10 violation.

I want to buy a doll with no fixed vagina, a german owner has taken a fleshlight an it looks like not bad, but see by youself.
He worked with a scissors, and I want to do it too, because the fleshlights have different and intersting inserts :whistle:
Here ist the link to the "fleshlight in a 4wood doll": http://www.gummipuppen.de/forum/showthr ... 235&page=2
Sorry, I wanted to upload the pictures, but they have to many pixels...


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 Post subject: Re: 4woods Fixed vagina VERY BAD!!!
PostPosted: Fri Dec 23, 2011 11:51 am 
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To my knowledge these issues concerning the integrated vagina are of the past. I have no problem with the integrated 'realistic' vagina of my 4Woods NEOim (she was manufactured last August). See also this thread.

To those posting about problems with the integrated vagina, please state type of doll and year/month of manufacturing :evidence:
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 Post subject: Re: 4woods Fixed vagina VERY BAD!!!
PostPosted: Fri Dec 23, 2011 12:02 pm 
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Kaeutzchen wrote:
Hi,
I want to buy a doll with no fixed vagina, a german owner has taken a fleshlight an it looks like not bad, but see by youself.
He worked with a scissors, and I want to do it too, because the fleshlights have different and intersting inserts :whistle:
Here ist the link to the "fleshlight in a 4wood doll": http://www.gummipuppen.de/forum/showthr ... 235&page=2
Sorry, I wanted to upload the pictures, but they have to many pixels...


Yes I have try this afternoon a Fleshlight trim, it is ok but a bit too tight.

Yea New AI IM has now a fixe vagina make in "Cyber Skin", ok for sexe but this material is the less good I have test, Fleshlight and Japonese insert is very better. So I will try to put a japonese insert inside.....


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