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So i have had my doll for a while now and it was already old when i got it. IT has a rip right where the vaginal opening and rectal opening meet. It is essentially ripped and i wont use her again until fixed. I did the permafix silicone fix as suggested on here but as i thought it dos not have the strength for such a tear that will be under pressure in the future. As it broke almost straight away after being left for 24 hour curing time. So i am now versed in the correct procedure for TPE glue repair but still dont know if it will hold. Im thinking soldering would be a go but have no clue how to do it correctly as i cant find much info. Anyway any help is greatly appreciated.
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Also i just went to remove the permafix clear silicone so i can attempt another repair. It all came off with not much force at all. So anyone thinking of using permafix as a glue for TPE.....Don't. I am not certain where i read on here to do so but take it from me it wont hold!

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This thread is interesting and still ongoing.

http://dollforum.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=84974

Other efforts of repair I've seen failed.

Example. http://dollforum.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=72976
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well thanks for the response "Doll Oracle" were you clearly didn't read my post lol. I said the permafix does not work and cant remember who said on here to use it. You then link that exact thread as if its supposed to help me???
Anyway i just bought some UHU all purpose repair glue on a whim. After about an hour i realised it is acting like TPE glue and softening the TPE and actually acting as a less harsh/more forgiving TPE glue. I am now leaving it for 24 hours in hopes that the glue will do the job. I will let you know in 24 if i have ruined my first doll or found a awesome alternative to TPE glue!

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I posted the links for reference and stated that I haven't seen reports of successful repairs of high stress areas. I'm aware that such may not be helpful but figured I'd give you a heads up as well as show information that would aid others in following this thread.

This forum has R&D that compiles from multiple sources. That being so, it can save folks from trying methods that have been reported not to work.

Sincerely, I hope your method works and will be elated if you've found a glue that works.

Please, do report on this.

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okay fair enough, I just found it comical you linked the permafix thread as a fix. Yes I to hope i have found a solution. I let it go for an hour at first and it didnt hold. Although drying time was supposed to be short BUT. When i reapplied the glue and started seeing the TPE open up as it does with TPE glue. I then felt the TPE that had touched the glue and it was soft and sticky which gave me hope. Yep i shall report back in 24 with either a great success......... Or a Great TPE Mess.

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@HornyGuy:
The only luck that I have had with that type of repair has been "Controlled Heat" and I am serious, being able to control the heat is very important. The least expensive way that I know to obtain a somewhat controllable heat that can be used in that delicate and confined area is to purchase a Hot Air desoldering station and then use the heat controlled air to heat up a butter knife to seal the rip. But it must be clean and free from any other materials such as glues, adhesives and such. Then clean it very well with 90% or better isopropyl alcohol and The doll must be positioned where the rip is trying to stay closed, this is important, then heat the butter knife using the temperature controlled hot air, in this way the knife will not get hotter than the temperature of the hot air. Set the temperature of the hot air at around 300 deg. F heat the knife for approximately 60 seconds on both sides of the blade. Quickly but smoothly insert the knife into the rip and with one motion smoothly pull it out. Let cool for approximately 5 minutes. At this point it will be as strong and durable as it will ever be if this procedure is done correctly!

This is the way that I have done this, it has worked for me, your mileage may vary. I will you the best of luck with your repair. To me repairs to the private parts of a doll are among the hardest to do correctly. IF you need some TPE to practice on then PM me, I can help with that. And I would strongly recommend practicing first!

Hope this has been of some use to you!
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Wow i wish i knew this beforehand as i would have done so instead of trying with glue. Anyway thats valuable information indeed and I will clean any previous attempts off. Then try this type of a repair. I have a pretty decent heat gun and a laser thermometer. Those combined should get me close too the 300 Fahrenheit (albeit in Centigrade) and will happily try heat. Either way in less then 24 i will let you know how this Randomly bought glue which is acting like TPE glue does......cross your fingers for me:)

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Interesting. I've wanted to experiment with a laser thermometer and heat gun for many months. I only recently placed a purchase for them. Checking for delivery status this morning before leaving work, I saw that they showed as delivered.

I just took a virtual girl insert that's been stored in a box for years. The thing had a rip. Holding the heat gun's nozzle about four inches away from the rip with the gun running, I kept tabs of the temperature with the thermometer. At about 240°F, the thing began to change in appearance and smoke. I stopped applying heat, picked up the insert and held it so the rip closed for a couple of minutes, then set it down. After about ten minutes, I checked for where the rip was. It appears to have welded nicely. Funny though, enough heat had gotten around the opening of the orifice to weld that closed too. I'm not concerned about the insert since it's fallen from use.

If I were going to try a similar method on a doll, I'd be sure to experiment and practice.

The part that surprises me is that the temperature reading only made it to 240°F when it looked like enough. The melting temperature is reportedly about 290°F.

For sure, it doesn't have to make sense; it only needs to work. This was my first experiment.
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Okay it is not a success story as I had planned. Chalk it up to experience but i should have tested the glue on a small area first. It did soften the TPE and act like TPE type glue BUT, It didnt harden just stayed soft and sticky so i now have to remove all parts that had made contact with the glue. I always wanted to add a fleshlight too the doll as i like the idea of swapping out high end sleeves so now i get my chance i guess. Lucky i only paid 1/3 of the dolls worth and bought it used. Well its all good experience before taking the plunge and investing n a new doll but to sum up. No success here just a great mess:(:(

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Thanks for the report.
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SUCCESS!!SUCCESS!SUCCESS!!SUCCESS!!SUCCESS!!SUCCESS!!SUCCESS!!SUCCESS!!SUCCESS!!SUCCESS!!

So what i did was a repair combining hot knives. Tarzan's Grip super glue (yes i know but it holds and strong) a TPE Sleeve of same material of the doll and a soldering iron.

Basically i started by cutting a chunk of TPE from the sleeve and used tarzans grip to glue it into place where the tear between anus and vagina occurred. Dont worry about the tarzans grip going hard and rubbing against your private parts as we will cover it later on!.

Now once that dries took less then an hour oh yer. Clean with water and soap both the tpe sleeve to be used and the doll where it will be glued. Then clean with some kind of alcohol i used metho to get the surface ready before applying glue. Do this every time you apply a piece of TPE or are using glue.

Now you can start cutting pieces to shape and glueing them over the initial chunk of TPE holding the tear. Do not worry too much about the look of it as we will shape it at the end. Only glue on the back not the sides or front as these are cover pieces and will touch your private parts. It takes a bit of skill here which only comes with trial and error. So after my first piece I started adding little bits where i could see it needed it all building up on top of each other. Now as we are only gluing the backs always have the stove running on full with a dry pot on the stove and the knives underneath . I found the hotter the better so get it to max temp but be VERY CAREFUL do not touch spots on the doll you are not working on and DO NOT TOUCH THE KNIFE without a tea towel around the handle or some kind of heat proof gloves. I found having two knives on at once allowed me to continuously work when one got cold.

So use the knife on the sides of the TPE pieces you are using meet each other. This is to glue the sides together. Remembering not to get any tarzans grip on the sides or front of the TPE. once you have built up a solid amount of TPE around where the rip had occurred it and are happy it is holding we now begin to shape the tpe.

Using the knives i would just keep running a flat side back and forth over the tpe and that would allow it to be reshaped. After taking a knife away as it has cooled remember to clean the knife each time or you will get black TPE spots on your beautiful new covering pieces. Now you should have built up a lot of TPE knowing you are going to take some away later. That being said I found cutting pieces of TPE off with a heated knife easy as it cuts though like butter. So now start shaping and cutting where needed.

It should be starting too take shape now. If you have done this correctly your openings both vaginal and anal will need some work to get a nice smooth hole for entry. This is where a circular soldering iron comes into play. Just open here legs a little just enough to see the hole start opening, then start shaping it with a circular soldering iron and VOILA!

my doll had the worst rip i had ever seen comparing it too pics on here and now it almost looks like new....almost.
Good luck and I hope you have as good as result as me:)

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So, you used cyanoacrylate adhesive for strength. Then, you laminated the adhesions, using hot knife sculpting. That is something I've wanted to try, but I've not had the opportunity or need to try such a method.

Thank you for describing your method and some caveats.

This is very good news. Please post photos.
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When using heat to shape TPE, coat it with mineral oil first. That helps to prevent damaging the material. It also stays moldable between 240°- 190°, from my experience. Congrats on the repair and best of luck to you!
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Get a laser thermometer. I purchased a heat gun, that came with nozzles, and a laser thermometer from Walmart for about what a tube of sil-poxy costs.

TPE I worked with started to smoke at 240°F. No wonder melting the stuff is problematic.
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