GrimmHorizon wrote: ↑Thu Mar 07, 2024 12:10 pm
bbc3 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 07, 2024 11:40 am
Thank you for reaching out! I think this body looks similar to your other bodies. I would like to see an A or B cup small bust doll 152 -164cm in height. As close to your other light weight dolls as possible. Appreciate your time and attention.
Are you aware that Tayu already has a 155 B-cup coming in at 23kg/51lbs?
I don't think so, because people keep asking for bodies that already exist..like the one you mention and that AI photo which is basically the 148 D (that already exists)
shyguy1219 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 07, 2024 3:22 pm
I'd personally love something very similar to Piperdoll's Krystal or Jessica sculpts. Very curvy but also slim, and both have amazing breast sculpts. I generally like larger breasts on dolls but I'm not the biggest fan of how the larger breasts look for Tayu, especially the 155 I. Doesn't look natural with that tear drop sag, very "bolt-on" and stiff appearing.
Agreed..bolt on balloon tits..cartoonish, and not in a good way. Look to P*per for the most shapely and feminine breast sculpts in the industry (large or small cup size).
serotta wrote: ↑Fri Mar 08, 2024 7:20 pm
Tayu, the industry is clearly trending toward greater realism, but you seem to be running in the opposite direction. This design and your last one (158C+) are some of the least realistic I've ever seen. This doesn't seem like a sensible strategy, especially for a luxury brand at a high price point. You must be executing a broader strategy here that isn't apparent to the layperson.
Tayu is not and never has been in the "hyper realistic" category, though they have had some of the same issues as "hyper realistic" dolls (unsightly "paint" wear exposing high contrast base material). What you pay for with Tayu is intelligently designed love holes, good LHP and low weight (mostly due to unusually thin and "petite" bodies, no ass, stick thin limbs etc.). With realism comes decreased useability, durability in sexual use etc. According to Tayu's banner, they are "built for sex" see screenshot below..
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There is always G****d which is so "hyper realistic" that although they appear to be sex dolls, the manufacturer stated that sexual use was not their intent. The manufacturer also recommends only lightly patting doll with damp cloth to clean in order to avoid damaging the "hyper realistic" "paint". How do you bang a doll that can't even be washed properly without damaging it? This is the price of "luxury" "hyper realistic" brands/dolls. Hyper realism or sexual useability..pick one..no manufacturer offers both.
claydough wrote: ↑Fri Mar 08, 2024 7:43 pm
serotta wrote: ↑Fri Mar 08, 2024 7:20 pm
Tayu, the industry is clearly trending toward greater realism, but you seem to be running in the opposite direction. This design and your last one (158C+) are some of the least realistic I've ever seen. This doesn't seem like a sensible strategy, especially for a luxury brand at a high price point. You must be executing a broader strategy here that isn't apparent to the layperson.
The layperson would make something that appeals to about half the world, like a hot, realistic 166C at 27 kg, shoulders 39, bust 85, under bust 70, waist 62, hips 92. They would use the incredible boobs from the 158C+ and an equally good butt. You must have a good reason for bypassing designs like this and going for implausible caricatures, but it's hard to imagine what it would be.
the doll industry is already becoming stale with the same body types being released over and over by all the companies
some varity is good to appeal to everyone rather than chase the most popular trend as that will never give you access to the entire spectrum for potential customers over the long term
i think its good they're mixing things up, the 158c wasnt my thing at all, but its good because it might be someone elses thing
Yes, very stale. One manufacturer (J*D) has five (yes that's correct 05) versions of the same damn body (148 B) with only slight height variations and a torso version. More than a few other manufacturer's entire catalogs are nothing but rehashed stick thin, small breasted models. Very, very few voluptous bodies availible in silicone comparatively.
Jugo wrote: ↑Sun Mar 10, 2024 9:40 am
The feedback in this thread made me curious about differences in the perception of female beauty between Asia and TDF (which I think consists predominantly of western Caucasian males). It seems there is a general discrepancy between the two groups, where the Asian definition of female beauty dictates a hip to waist ratio of around 0.6 and where "fragility" is preferred. The western definition on the other hand prefers broad shoulders with a muscular chest combined with a hip to waist ration at around 0.7. I guess this explains why so many dolls to me has an almost cartoonish appearance with a narrow waist and shoulders.
In any case, before you finish the design you should probably decide where you want to market it, in Asia or in the west.
The Asian market is large and the culture is different, but there are a few things to be considered:
- Doll breasts do not behave (physically) like human breasts due to material limitations. A-C cups have very little physical movement because there just is not enough leverage on them to overcome the firmness of the material and allow that movement (jiggle, splaying, sagging etc.). Even though I do appreciate smaller breasts in specific situations, I will tend to go for larger breasts if for no other reason than the increased realism in movement and feel.
- There are already many, many more (maybe hundreds more) options for the Asian market that generally are unsellable to the west for various reasons (including legal). Much if not all of M*W's line being one example; C*t Doll, W*x Doll being just a couple more of many others. Even the J*D branded 148 B (which was originally a M*W branded body) is riding a very fine line, and likely non importable to some Western countries. Hundreds of options in silicone and TPE from AA-C cup aimed at the Asian market (not necessarily due to popularity but because of legality) are availible and you can order them (maybe not from your Western focused vendor, but certainly possible to order once you realize there are other vendors outside of the Western box).
- When you look at anime/hentai/gaming/cosplay popular culture (which originated in Asia, generally is targeted to and is the most popular in Asia) you will see tons of large shapely breasts and bodies. These characters were not designed specifically for the West and in many cases were never intended for the West's entertainment and/or to be accessible to the West. Oppai (large breasted) characters are a staple in anime/hentai/gaming. Literal "cow girls" with large lactating breasts are a very popular theme and we are not talking about lactating A cups. There literally are breast milk cafes in Japan. This Asian cosplay model has over a million followers (very likely most if not all would jump at the chance to bang her or her doll likeness) just on twitter alone, there's nothing stick thin or small breasted about her..
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This healthy and fertile cosplayer (Japanese phenomenon) has almost two million followers (very likely most if not all would jump at the chance to bang her or her doll likeness) just on twitter alone,
there's nothing stick thin or small breasted about her either..
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Two of the most historically popular female video game characters (designed by the Japanese, originally for the Japanese market)..not stick thin or small breasted..undoubtedly millions would love to bang both.
Streetfighters Chun Li
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King Of Fighters Mai
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- Asia (and other regions) have a fascination with Western culture and often try to emulate it. From rock music to levis jeans to big breasted blonde bimbos, many Asians love it. Recently, many Asian girls are going as far as to have their eyes surgically altered to look less Asian.
- I think there is a natural desire to have what you can't or don't have and that applies to not only Asians but all cultures. I see hundreds of thin A-C cup girls with faces of varying beauty on the street everyday; rarely do I see thick (not fat) with G cup or larger and a beautiful face. Large breasted natural blondes are exotic and desireable in Asia (and other regions), many European women go to Asia (and other regions) to capitalize on this and become very rich.
- Medium to large breasts, wide hips etc. hit human males on an instinctual and subconcious level. These are attributes that suggest fertility and the ability to support healthy children. It is only relatively recently (in human history) that thin, small breasted "supermodel" type bodies have been considered desireable; for the majority of human history, these features were considered undesireable. And even today thousands of women get breast and even ass implants to effectively appeal to men's instinctual wants.
- Maybe the Western market is not as large due to the lack of desireable (or legal) options.