WHAT? This is hilarious...

[Luiskjr]

Definitely doesn't look like an F, but maybe is the angle photo

I have an F doll and feel breasts are gorgeous and pinned up as I prefer. Also the areole being puffy cone shape helps to look more forward push

If breast is rounded and saggy downwards it wont feel like an F.

Remember folks, in real life breast size can be for 3 reasons.

a) She is young so breasts are firm and pinned forward

b) She aged and gained weight so the breasts just got bigger or saggy

c) she did surgery and put massive implants that make like rounded balls

[Bree]

This is something I get asked on our chat all the time. I think it is because we are used to seeing celebrities, athletes, pornstars etc who have very similar body sizes and the breast size is the thing that changes - so its a very obvious difference between a B, C, D, E - the breasts get bigger and the torso is similar sized. Easy. However that's not how it actually works

If you have a look at this image, these are all the same breast size - the same volume, but they can be A's on one person's body and D's on another.

Great demo! There is also the question of who takes the measurement with possible error in either direction. When manufacturers claim possible error in measurement, my thought is that it was not measured by the bra fitting lady at Dillard's that my wife asks for by name. I guess as other's have mentioned, I no longer pay attention to the letter of bust size, but what looks good and the "rough" measurements in cm/in.

Also the commonly small band size and perky breasts on dolls, even on BBW seems to inflate the size. Maybe explains why some dolls look proportional without clothes but once dressed loosely appear overly busted?
In old non-skinny torso ladies (real women not dolls) my age, I see the opposite. Sometimes in clothes they look smaller chested but with top off, boobs and back fat look a lot bigger!
To me it's all fun and beautiful!

Definitely doesn't look like an F, but maybe is the angle photo

I have an F doll and feel breasts are gorgeous and pinned up as I prefer. Also the areole being puffy cone shape helps to look more forward push

...

Thanks for the reminder that regardless of breast size, I personally prefer those larger 6cm "puffy cone shape" areola! Which none of my dolls have.

[Silicone Lovers]

I guess as other's have mentioned, I no longer pay attention to the letter of bust size, but what looks good and the "rough" measurements in cm/in.

This is the way to do it! People can get caught up in cup size, they won't buy a C cup because they want something bigger, when actually the C cup on a particular doll may be bigger than the D cup on another. It's not the easiest concept to explain either because most people have held that belief for many years (definitely I was one of them before getting into dolls!). A lot of people want to know the bra size before buying, and then give up when it's not the letter they expected. Just buy what looks good is the mantra! that means way more than the cup size!

[Martinson Joe]

Anyone here serious about buying clothes for their doll instead of just fucking her should know how the damned cup thing works

(joke here, no pun intended)

[Bree]

I guess as other's have mentioned, I no longer pay attention to the letter of bust size, but what looks good and the "rough" measurements in cm/in.

This is the way to do it! People can get caught up in cup size, they won't buy a C cup because they want something bigger, when actually the C cup on a particular doll may be bigger than the D cup on another. It's not the easiest concept to explain either because most people have held that belief for many years (definitely I was one of them before getting into dolls!). A lot of people want to know the bra size before buying, and then give up when it's not the letter they expected. Just buy what looks good is the mantra! that means way more than the cup size!

Thanks for confirming. I agree. The search for many of us really is part of the fun. I've said before that I have tried to build weighted ratios defining my preferences comparing a few dozen dolls using the relationships between bust, waist, hip, inseam, height & weight. More measurements would be so much better but are near impossible to find. It becomes very difficult to get consistent or accurate numbers across different manufacturers.

ExcelSheet.JPG (198.52 KiB) Viewed 400 times

In the end my formulas could sort of confirm a few dolls within range but ultimately when I pick top three, visually having similar look, they are different ratios because of so many missing or "lose" measurements.

Then about a year ago, seeing all the innovations from Zelex on Inspiration series, I gave up the rigorous comparisons. Now with SLE, I'm waiting for it to include lighter skin tones, Inspiration style removable SLE vagina and weight reduction without compromising desired soft areas. Like so many, I'm relying on reviewers like KKFun, Reggster, Mishka, Adventurer and others who can't be thanked enough for giving so much valuable information.

[grottenolm]

Just my 2 Cents to this whole discussion: Many dollmakers overexaggerate their dolls' cupsizes by giving them ridiculously small bandsizes. Zelex is most of the time not guilty of this, as most sculpts have a pretty decently realistic band size. The one exception to the rule would be the here criticized x165, which uses a rather small band size too. In my opinion it is already too small, however not to an extent that it would get ridiculous or cause problems (try to find a bra with decently sized cups for a bandsize of 65 cm or even smaller! WM, are you listening?). If the x165 had the same band size as the (highly realistic) 170, we would also be talking about a C-cup. So yeah, i'd also say there is some cheating involved...

[jeep2639]

I think it's really a compromise. I don't think they are doing it to exaggerate the cup size. They are making the band area smaller because a lot of silicone (or TPE) has to go in there to be realistic, and I don't think it's a matter of the material cost, as much as weight. So, I think the way to choose bra sizes would be to look at the bust outside dimension, and find the different bras that would fit that bust size. So, for example, my beautiful Emily's bust size is 35 (89cm). This means that she could fit bras aimed at that bust size, and the cup size will dictate how far from the underbust the band would be. So, Emily should fit in 34B (band will be very far from the body), 32D, 30E, 28G.

[sim3sum]

The breasts on the zelex X165F are wider and flatter than the older style 165F cup. They are also softer with a natural hang where the 170C and older 165F are much more perkier. Some camera angles do make them look smaller than they are. Having the Zelex X165F, 165F and 170C the X165F has larger breasts than the 170C.

X165F.png (4.22 MiB) Viewed 247 times

First two counting from left are Zelex 170C, third is the older style 165F, last one on far right is the X165

20230907_224820.jpg (1.22 MiB) Viewed 247 times