TPE vs Silicone

DollAfficionado · Post by **DollAfficionado** » Fri Jul 11, 2014 4:46 pm

Having owned and performed minor repairs on both silicone and TPE, my judgment is that the Silicone doll will make the better long-term doll, although the TPE material does have some advantages of silicone. Sex is awesome with both materials, but the TPE material provides a bit better tactile experience. Both materials are fairly durable, but silicone is more easily repaired. I have enjoyed dolls made of both materials but if I had to choose only one today, I would lean towards a smaller sized silicone doll for maximum durability, minimum repairs, and ease of use.

Teo128 · Post by **Teo128** » Sat Jul 12, 2014 5:24 am

Before spending thousands bucks on a doll, personally I would request a material sample from the producer to evaluate...

Post by **netwit** » Sat Jul 12, 2014 11:29 am

Teo128 wrote:Before spending thousands bucks on a doll, personally I would request a material sample from the producer to evaluate...

Now why didn't we think of that

(being humorous, not mean):

http://www.dollforum.com/forum/viewtopi ... 43&t=54840
http://www.dollforum.com/forum/viewtopi ... le#p650436
http://www.dollforum.com/forum/viewtopi ... le#p649593
http://www.dollforum.com/forum/viewtopi ... le#p647978

this one is the most helpful:
http://www.dollforum.com/forum/viewtopi ... le#p636706

I think the problem with samples is the high shipping price for a dinky piece of scrap material.

I think we need more Doll Meets! Best way to get up close to lots of doll brands.

doppler · Post by **doppler** » Sat Jul 12, 2014 11:47 am

raulwie wrote:Two questions:

1) What's about the smell of silicone dolls?

2) Furthermore there are different types of silicone. The older ones, which I've seen, are very hard. Some types are oiling. What are actually the best silicone types and which companies use them?

I haven't seen anyone complain about smell issues or leaking oil with silicon dolls. It's usually these issues attributed to TPE dolls.

samfaster2413 · Post by **samfaster2413** » Sat Jul 12, 2014 11:57 am

doppler wrote:I haven't seen anyone complain about smell issues or leaking oil with silicon dolls. It's usually these issues attributed to TPE dolls.

TPE don't leak, but has a smell that slowly disappear over time. Old Silicon doll were leaking oil, i think it was fixed with Platinum Silicone.

Dees Man · Post by **Dees Man** » Sat Jul 12, 2014 1:17 pm

KillO7 wrote:Hello there my name is KillO7 and i have been view the forums for some time before becoming a member. I really like seeing all the different dolls i have seen, but i would like to know the difference between TPE dolls and Silicone dolls, which one is better? is TPE better than silicone in terms of being more realistic to the feel of skin of is silicone better? am thinking of getting the Miranda because she looks so cute, but i am not sure?

Hi KillO7,

I've had my silicon 4Woods S+ for a month and Beautiful Dolls Tatiana for a week. To give a VERY short plus & minus, the silicon looks more real, the TPE feels more real (except the boobies).

Sex was better with the Beautiful Doll until I worked out how to with the S+. Her Twine insert is amazing. So now they take turns. 4Woods don't do oral. Oral from my Sabrina head is so close to real its mind blowing.(From what I remember of real

)

Finally got corn starch today (kept forgetting when shopping) and gave them a good slap down. Yeah, I found myself slapping their bellies and butts once covered. Try to resist. Silicon didn't really smell, TPE did but I kind a liked it. Corn starch has majorly reduced the smell.

Miranda is super cute. She is great for photographing as couple of members here have shown and I would imagine is as good in bed as Tatiana as they are so flexible and soft. I thought about Miranda but would have needed to get different clothes. Tatiana and S+ are roughly the same size.

Whoever you get, if you think she's pretty you'll love her and try to stop at one

DM

KillO7 · Post by **KillO7** » Sat Jul 12, 2014 4:05 pm

Thank you very much Dees Man.

raulwie · Post by **raulwie** » Sat Jul 12, 2014 4:52 pm

DollAfficionado wrote: I would lean towards a smaller sized silicone doll for maximum durability, minimum repairs, and ease of use.

This seems to me a good advice.

solitaryman2414 · Post by **solitaryman2414** » Sat Jul 12, 2014 5:04 pm

Tpe is more or less hot melt vinyl which when heated to 350 will melt so keep her cool, as for silicone once cured will not melt. Both are two parts mixed together to make a product, hot melt is heated and poured into the mold and set to cool to turn solid jell, but silicone is best used at about 70 to 80 degresses to cure. I really don't think glue will work on tpe as it is oily, the only way to fix tpe is to melt it[the whole doll]if you don't it will come apart[been their done that]. product made with a foam core and tpe are junk and will come apart. In my next post in a couple days I will show what happens to tpe, foam core products[don't buy you will waste your money].

DollAfficionado · Post by **DollAfficionado** » Mon Jul 14, 2014 7:32 pm

I would not want to store either doll in a non-temperature controlled attic; however, a silicone doll would be able to endure this treatment, while a tpe doll might very well become a hot melted mess depending upon how hot it gets in the Summer in your geographic region. You definitely need to consider the environment in which the doll will be stored prior to purchase.

dolllovingdog · Post by **dolllovingdog** » Mon Jul 14, 2014 9:32 pm

solitaryman2414 wrote: Tpe is more or less hot melt vinyl ].

Exactly.

TPE is the acronym for Thermoplastic Elastomer, and is a general category of substances, not a specific substance in itself. On this forum, TPE is a B.S. term manufacturers use instead of divulging the true material. The term is similar to FantaFlesh, Sexflesh, whatever. Something similar to hot melt vinyl is the likely material, even though this material does not fall under a traditional TPE class.

The TPE torsos sold on ebay do leak and do smell, and one should be concerned about the plasticizers used in these torsos. However, the doll is different. On this forum, a manufacturer reported test results showing that his dolls were free of the nasty phthalates. (The nastier phthalates were the most common plasticizers for vinyl products.)

Silicone is different. Silicone does not need a plasticizer (and silicone based plasticizers are used when they are needed) and silicone is eminently safe. Pt cured silicone is (or was) only one of two elastomers (rubbers) suitable for use inside the human body. As long as nothing is added, such as makeshift plasticizers, mildewcides, and so forth, then a Pt cured silicone doll is safe enough to eat.

I suppose silicone can leak but it should not. What may leak is mold release or unreacted silicone from improper mixing or improper ratios of reactants. I am not qualified to write on silicone leaching, mixing, mold release, et cetera, but am qualified to write about the rest.