I think thats why the other brand eyes have the sheath. to keep the eyes with something non stick to rotate on. soft silicone will never work as a non stick sliding surface. unless as you suggest, you lubricate it with something.kanna wrote:The eyes themselves probably don't need to be changed... except perhaps for visual details like veins. It's enough to do something to the eye cavity so that it doesn't stick so much to the surface of the eye.
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Re: 163 XYColo Madison - First Impresions
Thank you Kanna, hope your suggestion will help JUSTINTIME: "lift her upper eyelid a litlle before moving the eye. Just put your between her eyebrows and upper eyelid and lightly push so the eyelid stops keeping the eye in place. Extremely easy to move after that".kanna wrote:You take amazing photos
Now I've seen two people describe Xycolo's face as soft and am wondering if I actually received a head with an unusually firm silicone for Xycolo or if GT faces are just super hard...justintime wrote:The GT face is quite hard, where as the XYColo is soft in comparison.
Is your head's silicone as soft as the body's or firmer?
I'm wondering if Xycolo has omitted the non-sticky coating from inside the eyes. If so, I think that's a mistake, it means they become extremely sticky, just like the back of her head, without powder. But I think if you can figure out a way to powder the inside, that should help. But in the meanwhile, I've found that the eyes move easily if I lift her upper eyelid a litlle before moving the eye. Just put your between her eyebrows and upper eyelid and lightly push so the eyelid stops keeping the eye in place. Extremely easy to move after that.justintime wrote:I do quite a bit of photography, so moving the eyes is very important to me.
The GT eyes are well made and far superior to XYColo. It is an effort to move xycolo eyes. I can only hope I am able to place some type of lube behind the eyes it may allow me to move them, with out harming the implanted eye lashes that I paid for. So far no luck and have already lost several eye lashes.
There is no powder or lube behind the eyes. Please have a look at the picture bellow to understand our eye structure.
I've found that the eyes move easily if I lift her upper eyelid a litlle before moving the eye. Just put your between her eyebrows and upper eyelid and lightly push so the eyelid stops keeping the eye in place. Extremely easy to move after that
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Movement can now be done with a slight touch of the eye it's self.
Veins show as does a slight tanning of the whites of the eye.
This is how a doll at this price point should look ...period.
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FYI, I haven't even attempted to move Nina's eyes yet.
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In this case it had to be done.
But thank you Dark Knight , it's all about having a good time, even if it means working on new $4,000 dolls.
HornedPear go for it buddy...
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I dont really wanna help pile on here, but i do agree that they eyes are almost the most important part of creating a realistic looking face
And by now doll manufactures should be catching on that gynoid are the only company that has managed proper workable eyes, they should all be making moves to develop somthing similar
Also looking forward to some more photoshoots!
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Wow JIT, I didn't know you were such a master doll mechanic.justintime wrote:Well as they say "into the breach". I guess part of owning a doll is making her/him your own.
Do you think there is any possibility of making a hybrid XYcolo head and different manufacturer body combo?
With so few bodies and seemingly hard compromises for the XYcolo dolls, it would be great if you could buy just the head or attach the head to a different body.
(I like the XYcolo heads)
Very nice dolls. Thanks for the great photos and for all info you share.
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I'd say it's possible, but requires replacing the connector from either the body or the head.Doll Master wrote:Do you think there is any possibility of making a hybrid XYcolo head and different manufacturer body combo?
Other manufacturers just choose the compromises for you and don't give you as much choice about what you'd prefer to prioritize. Similar technical considerations constrain all silicone doll makers. Xycolo allows the customer to make the choice, which at least I like a lot. Even if the choice is difficult.Doll Master wrote:With so few bodies and seemingly hard compromises for the XYcolo dolls, it would be great if you could buy just the head or attach the head to a different body.
(I like the XYcolo heads)
Kanna / 叶愛 - Dollhouse 168 EVO-156 + Sasa Head
Asami / 朝瑞 - Piperdoll PI-150/B Akira
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Elena / 恵恋愛 - Tayu 148D + Naimei head
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justintime wrote:Looks 100% better, no longer takes two hands to move the eye.
Movement can now be done with a slight touch of the eye it's self.
Veins show as does a slight tanning of the whites of the eye.
This is how a doll at this price point should look ...period.
JUSTINTIME, Cool!
Good Job! Golden Hands!
Your suggestion about eyes are taken. Thank you for helping us to improve.
However, in the near future we will use the same eyes, since this eye is a choice after hundred of times test by our doll-engineer, who has been in the doll industry more than 10 years.
I saw your picture of Vala in twitter. Wonderful!
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