WM 173 cm H Cup - Big Butt Big Breast Doll Review

[btasqan]

Hello guys,

A few weeks go I finally purchased the WM 173cm H Cup. At this point I want to thank silicon for his viewtopic.php?f=267&t=121317 thread. My money was lose so I pulled the trigger and ordered.

I ll compare this doll to one of my previous doll, review can be found in viewtopic.php?f=215&t=115198&start=15#wrapheader

Let's get into it:

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So I went with this doll:

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A lot has been said about this doll. So I ll try to go into things that might have been overlooked.

Pros:

1) Compared to the 170cm M Cup, this doll is much better. Yes a lot much. If you knows me, I have often critiszed WM for their hole placement. For it not being praticable in doggy mostly. So let me say this, THIS DOLL IS AWESOME IN DOGGY! You can adjust the height of the entry (vag or bumm) by spreading the legs. The entry angle is straight forward. Ulike the 170 C or M cup and many other dolls out there on the market, you cant miss.

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2) One thing that allows this doll to be awesome in doggy and easier to handle than some of its compared huge size dolls is that it has no joint in the back. I wish someone would have pointed this out earlier. BECAUSE IT IS A GOOD THING. When I first unboxed it, I thought the back was a bit arched and tried to force it to straighten, but it was so stiff, so is postponded the task. It was only later while in riding position I noticed that the back has really stable. After inspecting it and trying to find jonts by checking the whole back, I noticed there was no joint. The joints for side rotation are placed on the shoulders and on the hips! Like this the vag and ass do not change their positon depending on the thighs position because their centroid is on the torso. So you can position this doll how you want and will always know where the entry is depending on the back's angle.

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Also one other great thing is you dont need to worry about the back getting loose.

EDIT: As recently discussed in this thread. There seems to be a joint. The joint seems to be designed in a way that it only allows horizontal rotation. This would explain why one cant bend the back forward or backward, but can rotate the hip sideways. Again, this is a good thing for a doll of this size. Heavy dolls tend to collaps forward or backward after some time at the back. With the joint being locked for those ranges, this shouldnt happen unless you decide to force bend it, which might just break the joint. On a torso, such a joint wouldnt be a good thing because you would loose pose possibilites. The tall 173 H has legs and hip joints which allow for enough poses. And because WM designed the back in a slightly arched way, you wont be missing anything.

3) Size. With 173cm, it is huge, but also most clothes will fit it out of the box. You ll just have to buy S or M size. Yes, even the bras. Don't make the mistake and buy XL or anything like that. The breast are huge, but the torso is relatively slim, nothing near to that of the average real world female. For the butt, you will have to go M in some cases, depending on how much the clothing can stretch. The butt is HUGE . In a good way of course.

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Btw. The doll is good in almost all positions. Cowgirl is a bit tricky at first, because of the weight. But once you know how to position the legs. The only limitation to the riding is your arm and core strength.

4) This doll can sit/squat. Silicone has pictures of that, but when you get it sitted yourself and notice that boobjobs and bl*wjobs are possible in this position, it will blow your mind.

5) Removable vag. Though this is optional, I recommend it for anyone getting this doll. Why? Because it is the only doll I have which the removable vag dissapears completely into the doll and the entry is easy. Most dolls have a huge opening in the removable vag compared to the fixed. But this one have a very discreet entry. Also because of the dolls weight, the removable vag allows you to get it clean on the fly. Literally 1 minute.

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6) Weight. The weight feels real. The doll can take a heavy pounding without it feeling weak and cheap. It feels solid.

Cons:

1) Weight. Yeah pro and con.. If it were possible, I'm sure WM would have reduced the weight. If you need to get this doll to the 4th floor alone, it will be difficult. I needed around 10 minutes, stair by stair. You will need a wheel barrow. Also if you have to put it back into storage every time, it can be a bit tiresome. But these are issues all heavy dolls have.

2) Sensitive knee joints. Because of its weight, you have to take care of not getting damage on the knee area. The joint can tear through the TPE if you decide to use this doll heavily on the carpet or a surface that is not soft. I therefore recommend using this doll prefereably on a matress. Sure, when you are just taking pictures, then it will be fine on almost any surface, but heavy duty should be avoided and kept to soft surfaces only.

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For those interested. i went with head 162, light tan, removable vag, shrugging shoulders and standing feet. Something I critisized about my former 170 M cup was that the shoulders were weak and the doll often collapsed into itself while in doggy position. On my 173 H cup, there are solid. I took them because I wanted the sitting/squating option and the vendor was not sure if that option came without the shrugging shoulders. I would have prefered fixed, because on the long term, each joint is a weak part of the doll because it gets weaker the more it is used. But for now they are good.

Conclusion. Highly recommended for all those big boob and butt fans. If you wanted a 170 H cup or M cup, skip those, get this one. The placement here is really good practicably. One may argue about the visuals, but when it come to using the entries, you will have a lot of fun. Missionary, spooning, cowgirl, riding, doggy, prone bone. Name them all. Standing bent over (standing straight without bent over will only work with spread legs. And because the doll is heavy, you might get some damage on the feet in the process. Youl will need a wall and carpet so the doll doesnt slide away. Or will have to screw it to the ground if you have the equipment in your lair).

If WM made this doll as a torso. I d buy. Something like 88cm H Cup huge boob big butt torso. It would be an improvement to the 85cm M cup torso. The handling would be even much easier as a torso.

[CMiles76]

Awesome and informative review! She looks amazing! Congratulations

[Marco87]

Probably the best review of this model I've ever read.
I've always been undecided between this model and the 170M, so what you wrote will help me make the right decision.
Per il seno che opzione hai scelto?

This is the first time I've heard of the "sit/squat" option, what is it?

May I ask how did you choose to store your doll? I should keep it lying in a trunk but I'm afraid it might be a bad choice for a doll so curvy
(I'm worried about the pressure on my back from lying down for long periods) and heavy to lift.

[Drain Bammage]

Congrats, and great review.

Thanks for sharing, and enjoy the honeymoon!

[yarick7]

Oh Nice! I had been highly considering her and already decided I am going to buy her eventually but it is great to know about the back being solid! Love it even more!

Thanks for the informative review!

[Intrigued628]

Very nice review. Been still bouncing back and forth as to which curvy doll I want to purchase first. After this review, I believe the 173cm still wins out.

[LoveDolls]

I love a detailed review, great work

[MoviePilot]

2) One thing that allows this doll to be awesome in doggy and easier to handle than some of its compared huge size dolls is that it has no joint in the back.

Did you get this confirmed by your vendor or WM Doll?
Since it's a normal, or in your case probably the new WM Doll (Jinsan) skeleton, there definitely should be one. I guess it's just tight as hell - as for all back joints.
I would check this thread and again search for the location of the joint - then bear hug her
Would be really irritating if WM Doll uses one specific skeleton type only for that doll model and only in your case.

Maybe check also this image from silicone's thread and compare it with that image, where the back obviously is arched in totally different ways.

[setevoltas]

First off, beautiful doll, and congratulations. I hope we are lucky enough to see more of her. The world of TDF can't have enough 173s. Thanks for being bold and taking the plunge.

A couple of thoughts about the back joint.. to my knowledge, the current Jinsan skeleton has one, so I wonder if it's just really tight on yours. Having a doll currently with a tight back joint and having snapped one on a doll I miss terribly, I certainly don't want you to keep trying to force it. She looks great as is.

I'm only bringing this up because if 173s are really built differently with a skeleton that does not allow arching, I'd like to see WM confirm that. Again, I kind of doubt that's the case.

Edit - MP beat me to this LOL

[MoviePilot]

First check for the joint, if you feel its position (there definitely should be one, and it's not right below the breasts ), maybe bear hugging won't work for you - as it didn't for me too. The joint simply was tight like hell.
What I did was, lay her down on her belly. Put one hand/arm right at the position of the back joint and wrap your other arm around her neck. Then - with an impulsive motion - pull the neck and same time push at the joint.
Sounds harsh but that sometimes is the only way to make that fixed joint become a little loose.

[Atsuma]

This is an incredibly helpful review so thank you for your contribution. It’s helping to solidify my decision. Good to hear that the insert disappears into the dolls opening! I’ve always wanted to try a doll with an insert (especially a heavy doll) but was afraid I wouldn't like the aesthetic. This clears that issue up!

[btasqan]

Probably the best review of this model I've ever read.
I've always been undecided between this model and the 170M, so what you wrote will help me make the right decision.
Per il seno che opzione hai scelto?

This is the first time I've heard of the "sit/squat" option, what is it?

May I ask how did you choose to store your doll? I should keep it lying in a trunk but I'm afraid it might be a bad choice for a doll so curvy
(I'm worried about the pressure on my back from lying down for long periods) and heavy to lift.

Definetly go for this one. I had the 170 M and while it looked beautiful and is more slender with a nice butt, it only has looks. The 170 M also doesnt look this good in doggy or cowgirl, because the butt shape depends a lot on how you position the legs. The 173 has an almost consistent butt shape regardless of your positioning (standing, sitting, kneeling on all fours etc.). One thing I also noticed which many other doll dont have and which I ve only encountered with torsos, is that you can smack the butt in any pose and it will always shake nicely because it does not get overstretched when you bend the legs. In short, the butt volume is almost always consistent.

The sit sqautoption is something the piper dolls are known for. It yllows you to let the thighs touch the calves. Normally you cant bend the knees completely, at least I couldnt with my other dolls.

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See above. This is the sitting/squating. It is something you arent aware of until someone shows you it is possible, then suddenly you want it.

I dont have much space, so I have to put back the doll into its case everytime. The cases are usually slightly cusioned, which seems enough to kep the shape. Till now the dolls have been fine. You dont kneed to worry about th butt or back getting flat. Just dont let it stay near the heating.

[btasqan]

2) One thing that allows this doll to be awesome in doggy and easier to handle than some of its compared huge size dolls is that it has no joint in the back.

Did you get this confirmed by your vendor or WM Doll?
Since it's a normal, or in your case probably the new WM Doll (Jinsan) skeleton, there definitely should be one. I guess it's just tight as hell - as for all back joints.
I would check this thread and again search for the location of the joint - then bear hug her
Would be really irritating if WM Doll uses one specific skeleton type only for that doll model and only in your case.

Maybe check also this image from silicone's thread and compare it with that image, where the back obviously is arched in totally different ways.

I cant speek for all 173H. Silicone please confirm if your doll has a jointed back.

@ MoviePilot. My doll can doo exactly the same poses.

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The above pose can be accomplished by pushing the shoulders forward, it then makes the back look straight.

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This above one is accomplished by rotating the hip and shoulder at the neck joint. Because the back is already slightly arched by default, it gives the appearance of a more arched back. There is no rotation in middle of the back. At least on my doll. I cant say what type of skeleton I have because my vendor didnt specify. I also was not aware of the back being jointless.

I bear hugged mine and checked thoroughly with my fingers. Couldnt feel any joint. The metal spine seems slightly curved in my opinion. It is not straight. At least this is the case for my doll.

[btasqan]

This is an incredibly helpful review so thank you for your contribution. It’s helping to solidify my decision. Good to hear that the insert disappears into the dolls opening! I’ve always wanted to try a doll with an insert (especially a heavy doll) but was afraid I wouldn't like the aesthetic. This clears that issue up!

Thanks to you all for the good feedback.

@ Atsuma. Yes, if you want a removable, this is definetly the doll for it. As you can see by the pics, there is almost no difference between my pics and Silicones pics (he has fixed).
You can finally get all advantages of the removable without losing in the visual department. Because the doll is heavy, it is a big win. Also you can replace it if its tightness wears off.

What I suggest is that you cut the opening of the insert a bit. Make it like a funnel. I ve done this with previous doll inserts too and it makes entering so much easier. I helps to not slip off into the side walls.

Here an example of what I did with my insert. If you do this, just cut a little bit. I extended the entry like maybe 1 or 2 cm in diameter. And also only 1 or 2 cm in depth! It is just for making the entry easier as I said. Feels more naturaly too.

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[btasqan]

First check for the joint, if you feel its position (there definitely should be one, and it's not right below the breasts ), maybe bear hugging won't work for you - as it didn't for me too. The joint simply was tight like hell.
What I did was, lay her down on her belly. Put one hand/arm right at the position of the back joint and wrap your other arm around her neck. Then - with an impulsive motion - pull the neck and same time push at the joint.
Sounds harsh but that sometimes is the only way to make that fixed joint become a little loose.

Tried that day one and day two. I cant feel any knob or anything of that sort. The spine feels smooth from neck to belly button. A few cm under the beely button the skeleton splits into left and right as usual (space for vag and anus entry).

It is also possible that the back joint from this thread:
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has been built in a way that it does not allow forward bending and backward arching and only allows side rotation. That would seem the most closest if WM is using the same type of skeleton designs.