Euchre wrote:I'm actually curious as to why this question is being brought up now. The term iDollator has been around for most of TDF's lifespan and nobody has really questioned it cause it just seemed to make sense. ...
I looked up the ending 'ator'. Aside from the title character of a cheesy 80's movie, the best definition was 'a human agent' as in medi
ator, agit
ator, or domin
ator.
Yes, it's a different sounding word. But didn't iPod, eBay, or god knows how many other electronic gizmos or internet sites that we use everyday sound odd way back when?
So there you have it...
i = internet
doll = self explanatory
ator = human agent.
An internet using doll person... what's so wrong with that?
I'm Euchre and I'm an iDollator
Now that is funny. Like everyone with a hobby differentiates themselves based on whether or not they use the internet
It is ludicrous to think after the way our language works and the way words are created and put together that you won't be continually correcting and explaining to people what iDollator means (
An internet using doll person and not someone that is "idolizing dolls").
And in answer to your question? I brought the question up now, becasue I realized that many people perceive Davecat to be typical of iDollators and when Davecat himself told me in conversation that he felt he did represent the majority of iDollators I thought...dang, I do not want to be perceived in that light, because I DO care what people think about me and I would rather they think of me as I am and NOT as someone else is. Most every article and interview Davecat has done, he comes across as extreme and not like most I have met AND if he indeed is considered to represent the majority of iDollators then the term iDollator cannot possibly represent the majority of Doll owners.
Just because an idea or a practice is followed for a period of time, does not make it right. If that were the case, the world would still be flat
If a community is to be defined by a specific name and labeled with it, then it should be at the approval of the entire (or at least majority of the vocal) community and not just a select self appointed few.
I believe your logic behind the definition of iDollator is flawed because it does allow for the OBVIOUS which is the fact that most people interpret words they do not know by breaking them down, following standard rules of English. There is no question the vast majority of people seeing the term will first pick out "idol" and then "ator" assuming it to be a misspelling of idolator. or they may see the double L and interpret it to mean "idol" and "doll" and "ator" hence, one that idolizes dolls. Also most people will not remember to put the capital D in the word which further confuses the interpretation. I constantly get orders from people on my TB Store where they do not use ANY capitals in their name an address a (negative) influence of the internet..
I can understand why you may have such an aversion to our community wanting to officially define the term iDollator and how it relates to the community in general. Many people tend to resist change. As I recall, almost a year ago, you were one of the earlier TDF members to pick up stakes and move to another forum when TDF was changing from financial failure and governed by a small oligarchy to a financially self sustaining forum catering to public input and criticism from its member base and run by a staff of memebrs three times the size. Odd, mind you, because, the 'i' for internet in front of your "iDollator" name would imply that you indeed embrace technology and technology is continually changing
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Just because something has been done for years, does not necessarily make it right and eventually someone along the way may question that and awaken that silent majority who will then lend their voices to the discussion. This is how women's rights, and gay rights came to be.
There is nothing wrong with the word itself. It is in it's usage and interpretation where we seem to have a problem. As long as the word is used in the context of what most people (especially authorities on English) would deem it to mean based on academic interpretation there IS no problem.
"iPod", "iPhone", "iPad" are coined and copyrightable terms for product and are in fact very descriptive of the product.
Firstly excluding the botany and zoology definitions pod is defined as:
- A casing or housing forming part of a vehicle, as:
A streamlined external housing that encloses engines, machine guns, or fuel.
Aerospace A detachable compartment on a spacecraft for carrying personnel or instrumentation.
Something resembling a pod, as in compactness.
So using an academic interpretation iPod could represent
a compact container that houses internet
Of course using your breakdown you could state the same, except that it sounds like idol and looks like idol and therefore becomes a constant battle to educate people as to it's meaning. What is the closest word you can find to iPod that one might misconstrue it to be? Also Apple has spent millions of dollars to put that name and the product in front of the public eye until it became an international "iCon"
We do not have that kind of exposure. Also WE are not a product but a group of people using a product and to that extent would normally be defined in the same manner of ANY group using any specific product. ie.. noun - garden verb-to garden - noun - gardener - one who gardens and most words in our language have an etymology (origin) as language is in a continual state of evolution as is happening right now in this thread
If the majority in our community do not wish to be labeled by a 'coined' term they feel might lend people to misinterpretation of who they really are then they have every right to as you have every right to contribute to the discussion regardless of the strength of your argument. Societies have leftists and rightists and so does our doll community.
So here we have it. A candid discussion thread available to ALL doll owners who wish to input as to how they view themselves and what terms they feel accurately describe them to the outside communities.
Oh and you missed termin
ator, which I gather is who you would like to see deal with this thread
respectfully,
Midiman
P.S. I was wondering where the other iDollator vote came from. Now we have two
And it looks like we may still have two goons in our midst as they were the only ones that ever called us DollFuckers
Then again it IS descriptive of the primary function of a sex doll
Hey, it works for Harley Davidson.
Maybe as one ages the sex drive becomes generalized and is not just about getting inside that hole. 
