Beyond the stereotype of adult dolls

[haremlover]

What worries me about articles written as a result of linear thinking questions like this is that they can originate and result in merely two dimensional coverage of the ideas.

Looking through the questions already I see assumptions which colours the nature of responses and who responds.

The most important thing about dolls is not that they are fuckobjects, although perhaps we might (all) have started looking at sexual attractions, but that in the course of relating with them they can transform our lives in thinking for and as and with another entity . . . . This is hinted at by the Pippa pulls the chain series of photos http://dollforum.com/forum/viewtopic.ph ... 34#p714634

These ideas are expressed better by the series of photos that I have put into such threads more than any words I can write.

Best wishes

Harem

[Xyzed]

The same 'Vice' from youtube right? Ive been sub'd to them a minute

[Xyzed]

What worries me about articles written as a result of linear thinking questions like this is that they can originate and result in merely two dimensional coverage of the ideas.

Looking through the questions already I see assumptions which colours the nature of responses and who responds.

Ive been absent for a good few months but without fail, harem is still over here talking the most sense

[rubherkitty]

There is probably no good article or story written about dolls owners. You just have to be one of us to understand.

If you just own a doll for sex this is probably the most understood reason, but your still a perverted sex pig.
If you love your doll and receive some kind of emotional support from having her you're a delusional psycho.

[haremlover]

receive some kind of emotional support from having her you're a delusional psycho.

As an independent doll Chloé to such an accusation of giving anyone


emotional support and to any accusation of her man being a delusional whatever responds:




Best wishes

Harem

[rubherkitty]

Chloe can give me her tongue any time, any day!!

RK

[SexTypeThing]

A big help for VICE media will be to check the thread about "What brought you to dolls?" and get as much info from there.

STT

[coleridge]

1. First, tell me a bit about your doll.

I bought a WM 163 cm TPE doll about 6 months ago and called her "Pippa Pendleton". A couple of months later I sold her to another board member. He quickly sold her on to "haremlover", who still has her.

2. When did you first come to own a doll?

I actually bought my first sex doll (a cheap inflatable) when I was still at school - so about 45 years ago! I guess I must have seen the ad in a top shelf men's magazine. I was still living at home of course, so I used a post office as the shipping address, choosing one a few miles from where I lived for added discretion. I can still remember cycling there to pick it up and being very embarrassed at the counter. I was, of course, convinced they knew what was in the package! Obviously I had to wait until my parents were out to do the business. The plasticky smell revolted me a little but at that age nothing was going to get in way of fulfilment. It was wang bam, thank you doll, followed by post-coital disgust and a further bicycle trip to the nearest public rubbish bin to dispose of it. In the years that followed I guess I must have occasionally given other inflatables a second glance, but I rapidly came to the conclusion that they were all pretty much the same regardless of the packaging. When Real Dolls first came on the scene I suppose I was dimly aware of that and then, with the advent of the internet, I used to glance from time to time at their site. I only started to seriously consider buying a doll when I discovered TDF and realised that it was possible to buy a realistic full-size TPE model for a fraction of the price of a RD.

3. What do you think people stereotypically think about people who own adult dolls? If they are wrong, how so?

I live in the UK, so can only speak for this country. I imagine it's mostly some version of amusement - which can, of course, take good and bad forms. (The good form would be a "whatever floats your boat" type of amusement. The bad would be amusement at the perceived social inadequacy of somebody who needed to buy a doll. We know we're not socially inadequate - but we're better off demonstrating the fact rather rather merely asserting it. Women get a much easier ride (!) with their sex toys of course, but that's another story.) There are probably a few people who genuinely find doll ownership creepy, but the number of people in 2015 who seriously think it's wrong or disgusting must surely be quite small. That's not to say, however, that people's would always have the same attitude if they discovered that their husband or boyfriend owned one. I suspect then a fair number of the "amused" would turn more judgemental. Another thing, of course, is that many people will be forming their image of dolls from the sort of stag-do inflatable I bought as a teenager. Or maybe, if they know a bit more, they're picturing some lifeless, square-jawed, plastic heifer of a doll. When they see good photographs and realise that a doll can actually be a pretty, sexy young woman they're probably going to react more favourably.

4. Has owning a doll help you during your difficult emotional times?

Insofar as it has helped to stave off boredom - yes. I always like to have some kind of project on the go or I tend to sink into a vaguely depressed state of mind. Obviously I have "normal" hobbies like everybody else - hillwalking, family history, botany, photography, history, philosophy, languages, literature etc. It has to be said though that some of my favourite ways of banishing boredom do seem to revolve around the risque in some way, shape or form. So, apart from owning a sex doll, I've made erotic videos with RG models, visited escorts - and even posed as a female escort in Second Life! (Of all the things I've done this last one was probably the weirdest - much weirder than doll ownership!)

5. What things do you do with your doll, other than sex, if you do?

The usual - i.e. photography. As soon as I realised that my doll was indistinguishable from a real woman in some of my shots, I was hooked. However, I'm not really a serious photographer in terms of technique, since I only use a compact digital camera and available light. I rely instead on taking hundreds of photographs and only using the best few. Another thing that drew me into photography was the fact that when I posted shots on Instagram and other social media using my doll's name I got a lot of feedback from people who were convinced Pippa was a real person. In the end I almost began to feel a bit guilty about this because of the deception involved. Men were sending pics of their willies and women were sharing advice on hair and makeup!

6. Do you keep your doll secretive?

Yes - I'm a very secretive person! The idea of all one's family and friends being totally cool and accepting about one's doll sounds great, but I'm not sure that's really what I would want if I'm honest. I'm too much of an introvert for that. I would also feel that I was being defined and pigeonholed as a "doll owner" when it could just be a phase I was going through. Also, it would be sanitising and domesticating something that I actually rather like having as a deviant dark secret. It's more fun for me that way.

7. Do you have an emotional attachment with your doll?

Difficult one this. If you classify lust as an emotion, then yes. Also Pippa did seem to have a sort of presence or personality. Logically, however, whatever you are drawn to in a doll must really be a facet of yourself (and I think that applies to other living people as well.) In the end my emotional attachment can't have been that strong, or I wouldn't have been able to sell her. Having said that, I did feel I'd let her down, for example, if I allowed her to fall over during photo sessions, was a bit rough with her putting on clothes, etc etc. You could say I felt a little guilty about not taking as much care of her as I should have done.

8. What is it that you enjoy about an adult doll that you don’t with a human being?

Dolls are designed to flick all the male switches - perfect hip-to-waist ratio, breasts, youthful appearance, etc etc. I was absolutely amazed when I bought Pippa at how turned on I got just by handling and dressing her. I hadn't expected that, and it came as a total surprise. Even if you had a GF that looked like your doll, she would get bored and fed up if you spent hours dressing her up in different outfits, photographing her, etc. She wouldn't necessarily want to wear the clothes you wanted her to wear, and she'd still be demanding your attention when you'd final got tired or bored and decided to move on to something else. In short, a doll is a plaything who will simply go along with whatever you demand of her - and will not make any demands in return.

9. Do you talk to your doll, if so, what about?

If I was having sex with a doll I'm sure I'd say all sorts of things - some of them rather incoherent probably! Otherwise no - I'm just not that kind of person. I never even know what to "say" to people's dogs, even though I sense that some kind of cooing or doggy talk is expected. I have no children, but when I'm confronted by them I find myself saying nothing unless I think they can understand me. If the child can understand me I just address him/her as an adult.

[Slew]

Thank you, coleridge, for an extremely enjoyable read.

[Jack Callil]

Hello everyone, thanks for everyone who contacted me, and thankyou for the use of your pictures - especially noting Stephanie RD, who's lovely picture made a great cover photo.

The article is available here: http://www.vice.com/read/the-surprising ... -sex-dolls

I focused on the reasons other than sex that some people own sex dolls, while I know that many people do so for a wide variety of enjoyable reasons, in my discussions it seemed many owned dolls for a human presence, to have a temporary, emotional partner. I hope I have not offended anyone in the writing of this piece.

I thank you again for talking to me.

[coleridge]

Thank you, coleridge, for an extremely enjoyable read.

It's a pleasure! Too late for Vice I think, but at least it's all there in black and white for the edification of board members - for what it's worth

[haremlover]

It's a pleasure! Too late for Vice I think, but at least it's all there in black and white for the edification of board members - for what it's worth

Yes

A fun perspective.

Sadly I felt that the article, as I suspected, was limited to the perspective of dollkeepers still as outsiders and neglected the whole domain of what could be regarded by ordinary people as ordinary married blokes like many of us for whom a doll is not a threat to wife and for whom a doll enables us to be contented within marriage.

From my personal perspective, whilst sex can be important at times, I enjoy playing with my ladies as a balance to being surrounded by mainly males in the family with three sons, and having had no sisters, and no daughters, and a wife much too sensible to wear any of the sort of clothes that I might buy for my dolls . . . who can be smart, capable at times but also at others a bit delinquent and dangerous and as a result excitingly on the edge - and it's perhaps that escape from being down to earth and sensible that perhaps many of us seek in a doll being down-to-earth married.

The presentation of dollkeepers as being on the outside makes for salacious reading for the curious, saying that dollkeepers might be odd but their OK really doesn't at all give the message that it's OK and healthy for what the ordinary might consider to be ordinary guys to enjoy a doll being married.

I hope the author of the article might read this and go further in this direction on the next occasion that he, or anyone else, writes.

Best wishes

Harem

[puma uma]

Lovely! it was amazing to read thanks

[rubherkitty]

Sadly I felt that the article, as I suspected, was limited to the perspective of dollkeepers still as outsiders and neglected the whole domain of what could be regarded by ordinary people as ordinary married blokes like many of us for whom a doll is not a threat to wife and for whom a doll enables us to be contented within marriage.
Harem

I agree.
The article was void of any happy childhood, happy family guy that just has a doll to live out some fantasies. A happy couple who has a doll for bedroom fun would have been nice.
Maybe there were no submissions of such?

But then I suspect that most of us DO have a doll to fill some sexual or emotional void in our life. Like the psychiatrist said. Nothing really wrong w/ having a doll if that's what makes you happy.

[haremlover]

Maybe there were no submissions of such?

Well I had entered this thread, and have a member's introduction thread that any journalist researching this subject can read and am always happy to try to respond usefully where I can . . .

Hopefully the article will inspire other journalists to write and to know that there's more that can be written.

Best wishes

Harem