Sure, there are a few sellers at AliExpress that do deliver ... but we have seen so many sellers at AliExpress using stolen pictures, pictures of dolls worth over $5,000 and offering them for much much less. These are scammers. And with so many scammers on a platform, I wouldn't take the risk.Fireball wrote:Sorry, I MUST stay anything oposite.
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Sorry I dont understand what do you mean by "I wouldn't take the risk". Risk of what? Loss of money? Impossible. Did you understand Aliexpress' buyers protection policy? Probably not.Nescio50 wrote:Sure, there are a few sellers at AliExpress that do deliver ... but we have seen so many sellers at AliExpress using stolen pictures, pictures of dolls worth over $5,000 and offering them for much much less. These are scammers. And with so many scammers on a platform, I wouldn't take the risk.Fireball wrote:Sorry, I MUST stay anything oposite.
If the arrived product does not meet published criteria (i.e. what you read, see and require when ordering), open a dispute, ask for full refund and its all you need to do. Note, your money is at Ali's accounts, not at sellers.
About 18 months ago I ordered CNC router 4060, price about USD2500. Arrived slightly different model. I opened dispute and returned the product. After 30 days I have got my money back in full.
And yes, of course, you can order such machine (100% identical) via eBay, or other US, EU sellers etc. But the price is about 2x higher. And yes, now I have more then year fullty functional machine I wanted, but for USD2500. After 6 months of use there was a small problem. Seller sended spare parts asap.
This is the same with dolls.
Yesenia is fantastic and the price of USD1.600 also, comparing to US, EU sellers..
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Maybe not, but fact is I know of several people having a hard time to get their refund.Fireball wrote:Sorry I dont understand what do you mean by "I wouldn't take the risk". Risk of what? Loss of money? Impossible. Did you understand Aliexpress' buyers protection policy? Probably not.Nescio50 wrote:Sure, there are a few sellers at AliExpress that do deliver ... but we have seen so many sellers at AliExpress using stolen pictures, pictures of dolls worth over $5,000 and offering them for much much less. These are scammers. And with so many scammers on a platform, I wouldn't take the risk.Fireball wrote:Sorry, I MUST stay anything oposite.
And if a seller is using stolen pictures of for instance a 4Woods doll worth over 6K - not unusual at Ali - and offering this doll for less than 2K, then I know that this is a scam. There are just too many scams, fakes, and such. If it's too good to be true, it isn't. If you want to be sure, buy from the manufacturer or an authorised reseller.
There are good sellers too, and Ali may have buyers protection, but their real problem is that they don't do much about scams, they don't do much about copyright infringements. Probably scams are also money for Ali. Buyers protection or not, personally I don't buy from such a platform.
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Please roll back and note: If youre not sattisfied with the product, you receive, you can return it with no loss of money. Thats fact.Harem_Master wrote:I have had nothing but good luck buying clothes for my dolls on Aliexpress, but I would not recommend make a high dollar purchase from them. For one thing, you may be getting a counterfeit doll or something other than what is shown in the photos. Perhaps nothing at all... You get what you pay for!
In December 2014 I ordered hotair rework station Honton, costs about USD2000 plus shipping costs. Before this I have dicovered, that ALL of those machines (no matter what TM or origin they are) are produced by LiYnag Welding Equipment company. I contacted their represenatives (the same poroceeding with Yesenia doll), and ordered a this station via tehir Ali store. Station is 100% Hnton and working flawlesly almost an year... Funny was, that LiYang has an EU storage in UK. No additional taxes
... understand. And in the end I still donot understan your fear.Nescio50 wrote:...There are just too many scams, fakes, and such. If it's too good to be true, it isn't. If you want to be sure, buy from the manufacturer or an authorised reseller
Shenzhen J-Sun Electronic Technology Co., Ltd. is the real producer and seller of Yesenia. Do you think, you can order it elswhere better? For sure not.
http://www.aliexpress.com/item/146cm-Ye ... 92373.html
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I want to buy Yesenia, I simply believe this particular seller (and also producer). Problem is, that central bank in my country now have a negative influence to the cost of our money (now our legal tender costs about 30% less, than its real current international value). The influence will stop at the first half of 2016. Then will be Yesenia about the same percentage cheaper for me. I plan to buy her asap after this ends... Of course, if there will not be something better.
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It's not fear, I just don't want to buy at platform that does support scammers and doesn't give a f*ck about copyrights.Fireball wrote:... understand. And in the end I still donot understan your fear.
Okay, maybe the vendor of Yesenia is trustworthy (I really don't know). But Ali
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YLdoll, or Your Doll, owns the 148 cm doll design. I don't think you will receive the same doll from another source other than authorized resellers or from Your Doll. yourdoll@hotmail.com.Fireball wrote:Please roll back and note: If youre not sattisfied with the product, you receive, you can return it with no loss of money. Thats fact.Harem_Master wrote:I have had nothing but good luck buying clothes for my dolls on Aliexpress, but I would not recommend make a high dollar purchase from them. For one thing, you may be getting a counterfeit doll or something other than what is shown in the photos. Perhaps nothing at all... You get what you pay for!
In December 2014 I ordered hotair rework station Honton, costs about USD2000 plus shipping costs. Before this I have dicovered, that ALL of those machines (no matter what TM or origin they are) are produced by LiYnag Welding Equipment company. I contacted their represenatives (the same poroceeding with Yesenia doll), and ordered a this station via tehir Ali store. Station is 100% Hnton and working flawlesly almost an year... Funny was, that LiYang has an EU storage in UK. No additional taxes
... understand. And in the end I still donot understan your fear.Nescio50 wrote:...There are just too many scams, fakes, and such. If it's too good to be true, it isn't. If you want to be sure, buy from the manufacturer or an authorised reseller
Shenzhen J-Sun Electronic Technology Co., Ltd. is the real producer and seller of Yesenia. Do you think, you can order it elswhere better? For sure not.
http://www.aliexpress.com/item/146cm-Ye ... 92373.html
In the post linked to, DollStudio does name a few companies but doesn't name the one you reference. http://ourdollcommunity.com/forum/index ... 9#msg89009
Check this thread by the manufacturer.
http://www.dollforum.com/forum/viewtopi ... 12&t=65336
Also, those photos show a148 cm doll, not a 146 cm doll, but the size listed is 146 cm. That's inconsistent.
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I just wanted to shared my experience with AliExpress since I know that many of us hesitate to buy a love doll at low/weird price.
So me, like you went to this forum to check if a seller was legit or not, but didn't found my seller, so I checked the feedback.
Too bad all of the feedback was 100% positive... So ya it seem suspicious, but reading the feedback and feel that it was truly some buyer that leave good feedback.
At this point I was ready to try this seller with the doll I wanted, but there again you can see picture of legit dollmaker such as 6ye and at half price.
Since I really didn't want to pay a fcking amount of money I decided to trust this seller and placed my order.
Well aliexpress got buyer protection and all so why not, and the delivery put in the description said it will send it in 2-5 business day, and the transporter will take 5 days at max to delivery. (Free shipping fee)
I was thinking of canceling my order if the seller try to extend the time to send, well don't you agree? it clearly suspicious if he did.
Soon enough I got in contact with the seller thank to AliExpress messenger, got confirmation and told me that it will be send soon enough. (The seller seem to care and message his client, exactly as I saw in one comment)
So after 2 days I got a message from the seller that it was sent, and received the tracking 1 or 2 days later I think.
At this point everything is ok, I saw my doll coming in 3 days but pick it up later on since I was busy with works.
At home I confirmed that everything is the same as the picture and description plus extra gift. So YES omg this seller rock... And there are honest seller in AliExpress!
Well I know that scammed is everywhere but please to think that everyone does the same, I'm like you guys and don't want to be scam but stop saying/putting everything in a same bag.
Hope my experience will help people like me who want to get a doll at low price...
By the way the seller is the factory so I think it explain why the price is lower than the official one...
PS: I don't know if I can say the seller name there so you can pm me to get the name. And if I don't response it's a recent seller (2016) and have little feedback at the time I write this (around 16) and is 100% positive, so if you look for I think that you'll find it
And sorry for my english since I'm not an english native...
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Hello, what is the name of the seller? I am very interested, but you understand that I could not trust (and other forum people) in you, if you have registered just to say that. Please, photos or proofs would be appreciated.Dol_lover wrote:Hello,
I just wanted to shared my experience with AliExpress since I know that many of us hesitate to buy a love doll at low/weird price.
So me, like you went to this forum to check if a seller was legit or not, but didn't found my seller, so I checked the feedback.
Too bad all of the feedback was 100% positive... So ya it seem suspicious, but reading the feedback and feel that it was truly some buyer that leave good feedback.
At this point I was ready to try this seller with the doll I wanted, but there again you can see picture of legit dollmaker such as 6ye and at half price.
Since I really didn't want to pay a fcking amount of money I decided to trust this seller and placed my order.
Well aliexpress got buyer protection and all so why not, and the delivery put in the description said it will send it in 2-5 business day, and the transporter will take 5 days at max to delivery. (Free shipping fee)
I was thinking of canceling my order if the seller try to extend the time to send, well don't you agree? it clearly suspicious if he did.
Soon enough I got in contact with the seller thank to AliExpress messenger, got confirmation and told me that it will be send soon enough. (The seller seem to care and message his client, exactly as I saw in one comment)
So after 2 days I got a message from the seller that it was sent, and received the tracking 1 or 2 days later I think.
At this point everything is ok, I saw my doll coming in 3 days but pick it up later on since I was busy with works.
At home I confirmed that everything is the same as the picture and description plus extra gift. So YES omg this seller rock... And there are honest seller in AliExpress!
Well I know that scammed is everywhere but please to think that everyone does the same, I'm like you guys and don't want to be scam but stop saying/putting everything in a same bag.
Hope my experience will help people like me who want to get a doll at low price...
By the way the seller is the factory so I think it explain why the price is lower than the official one...
PS: I don't know if I can say the seller name there so you can pm me to get the name. And if I don't response it's a recent seller (2016) and have little feedback at the time I write this (around 16) and is 100% positive, so if you look for I think that you'll find it
And sorry for my english since I'm not an english native...