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A doll that has blinking eyes, that when you look at her she follows your gaze, same with her neck moment and she smiles. so, you look at her eyes and she follows your eyes and turns her head next to you when you close to her. That would be super adorable so instead of her just siting there looking stupid at nothing she will have the option, to lock her gaze on the tv or look at you. She would still be silent and smiles would be cool, even if she don't talk or anything its be more realistic and kind of comforting. you could play eskimo kisses with her. So what do you think? it make her more alive and fun to have around? if you have a visitor then can kind of creep watch them.

so she will be kind of semi alive, it be kind of cool really,

Moving eyes and not much else would seem a little creepy to me. Maybe I watched too many "Haunted Doll" movies.... I'm good with my 100% static doll- actually that is part of the appeal for me. Until they make a doll that can go to work and support my happy ass...I'm good with my inanimate girl. Of course I only speak for myself.....whatever gets you through the night!

This sounds a lot like what RealDoll is going for with their Harmony prototype.
I remember seeing a video a while back where Matt and another person were having a conversation in front of Harmony and she was constantly shifting her focus to the person who was speaking.
So not only is this feasible, but could be available VERY soon.

Well, I know about harmony 2.0, but What I am talking about is Eyes, next, and maybe mouth and no AI just kind of like she is a silent chliaxer by your side who keeps her mouth shut and smiles, here and there. Something more cost friendly to for those of us that can't afford 14k harmony.

I tried to end a fish with a subpar knife once, the blade snapped off inside him. It tracked me with its bulbous eye as I searched for a tool with which to end him rightly.

Not an experience I wish to emulate.

OCTATOK wrote:I tried to end a fish with a subpar knife once, the blade snapped off inside him. It tracked me with its bulbous eye as I searched for a tool with which to end him rightly.

Not an experience I wish to emulate.

I'm sorry...but the way you worded that was utterly brilliant. I'm still laughing.

Eyes following you...
Sounds like you need a tracking tech like gaming consoles have.

Right now, gaming consoles are having issues with it because it tracks your movements in 3D as part of the console, and presumably saves that data on the gaming company's drives so they can use it for ???

But the tech exists to track a person's movement.
Add that to an electronic system which uses a set of reducer gears and systems to reduce the "full scale" movements to the micro-adjustments needed to re-point the doll's eyes...

For the properly trained engineer, that should be simple, but would need the major surgery of opening the doll's head, carving out a hollow for the mechanisms and installing the works with the added access to the battery pack.

As for smiling,
First, you need a trigger to cause the smile.
Then, you need to rebuild the head entirely.
You need to separate the mandible from the head,
then separate the surface 1/2 inch of the entire face from the head,
then you need to run "power wires", "pull and guide wires" and servos(actuators) under the entire face, with logic wires running to a CPU chip board/power supply.
then, you need to shave off the surfaces of the mandible and run "power wires", "pull and guide wires" and servos(actuators) under that too,
Then, connect up the mandible to the head by actuators

and, finally....the hard part....
Program the servos and actuators to manipulate each part of the doll's face until it smiles in a natural-appearing way.

After that, you must also program in a trigger (IE: reason for the doll to smile)

That sounds really creepy. I dont want my doll randomly saying weird stuff to me either

IR cameras are responsible for most tracking. I love this idea and agree that it should be fairly easy to implement given today's tech.

Really cool ideas floating around here
I just joined this forum today to pick up on new ideas and get inspiration in general.
I'm always looking for feasible and cost efficient AI concepts.

OCTATOK wrote:I tried to end a fish with a subpar knife once, the blade snapped off inside him. It tracked me with its bulbous eye as I searched for a tool with which to end him rightly.

Not an experience I wish to emulate.

this is well worded!

Thanks for bringing up this subject. So much of the news coverage of robots has been cognitive -- trying to get a doll to understand your words and speak back. Somatic intelligence is being ignored. A doll that can connect through its eyes, mirror back facial expressions, hug back, etc.

I think it's better to think in stages. Maybe first having a doll that can be sexually interactive, and then move on to more social behavior...

Jamielin wrote:That sounds really creepy. I dont want my doll randomly saying weird stuff to me either

I'm sure that "Where do you keep the knives" and "Isn't it past your bed time" was just a coincidence.

From an engineering perspective, any product or invention that deals with interacting with humans is quite complicated. You need numerous safety measures put in place that can confidently deal with ANY situation. I'd love having my doll hug back for example but does that function only work when she standing? Sitting? In bed laying down? How much pressure should she squeeze with? What if people with multiple body types try to hug her?

I think some features especially the eye tracking could be done but it won't be very common except for at the highest price ranges because of how difficult it is while being safe. Though if you're an amateur tinkerer yourself, you could probably get something basic to work and at your own risk.