Stock DS insert vs. aftermarket - closing the gap!

[kabuki]

Just posted another video on the Dolltron2020 channel:


Is anyone else using an aftermarket onahole instead of the DS insert? I really don't want to go back to the stock insert after trying this out for the past several months.

[Aeron]

I've heard about the DS insert problem (when the legs are too wide), but does that only occur with certain insert types?

Are there any doll model + insert models that are fine?

[Pumpster]

Issue seems to be worse with larger dolls as DS145 doesn't have that large gap with insert, on that video you can just throw the insert in by one hand Mine needs some fiddling with 2 hands as the hole is smaller and insert sits in more tightly. But it's good to know that TPE insert can be used in case DS inserts start to feel too harsh.

[kabuki]

[Pumpster]

^ I just had to dig out my 3rd unused insert I've been saving and it appears to be larger size than other 2 I've been using, it fills the vag tunnel quite nicely. And omg it's so soft! Apparently other two inserts have hardened somewhat in service and feel more like tire rubber compared to unused insert. I wonder if there's any kind of treatment silicone could be made softer again?

[Jimbofod]

I'm too wary to use a TPE insert in my DS doll, but I did get some alternate ones. I also have a 145. The ones made for the doll have the advantage of fitting inside just fine, but usually end up pushed almost an inch inside during playtime. The R type, for the 167, is actually very similar, longer, but with perhaps even a smaller opening.

I ordered a B type insert and immediately like it much better. It fits in rather tightly, and maybe sticks out just a bit, but in use there is no issue with "missing" really. Besides fully filling the cavity, the labia are larger and can help guide and correct. The inner diameter is just a bit wider, and I noticed the material was very soft. The fit of the insert in the cavity is tight enough, though, that I don't think I'd leave it in all the time. It might put undue pressure on the cavity opening, which I already had to repair a time or two. Another bonus is that it partially covers the repair scars.

I also ordered a G type, but it is so tight I'm not sure it would be comfortable. I could barely stick my finger in. It seemed to me that the material was just a tad more stuff than the B insert.

Fortunately, the B type was buy one get one free, since that is my favorite.

[Quellis]

Thank you so much for the video. I had no idea how bad the gap was on the doll. Very important to consider if I want this doll.

[Pumpster]

I'm too wary to use a TPE insert in my DS doll, but I did get some alternate ones. I also have a 145. The ones made for the doll have the advantage of fitting inside just fine, but usually end up pushed almost an inch inside during playtime.

I folded some bubblewrap and stuffed it at the bottom so that insert doesn't slide in during action.

[Jimbofod]

I'm too wary to use a TPE insert in my DS doll, but I did get some alternate ones. I also have a 145. The ones made for the doll have the advantage of fitting inside just fine, but usually end up pushed almost an inch inside during playtime.

I folded some bubblewrap and stuffed it at the bottom so that insert doesn't slide in during action.

This is a good strategy. Also, if you go too crazy, you'll hear the sound of popcorn.

For me, I'm finding that the type B insert is solving both this problem and the gap on either side. It's just a bit tougher to insert in the first place.

[mala78]

I'm too wary to use a TPE It's just a bit tougher to insert in the first place.

if you think this is tough maybe you should try a Wm doll with removable vagina.

[Aeron]

I'm too wary to use a TPE It's just a bit tougher to insert in the first place.

if you think this is tough maybe you should try a Wm doll with removable vagina.

I found the length was never right, leaving a large gap between the insert and the entrance. Makes cleanup a mess since stuff can spill inside the vagina cavity, eliminating the whole advantage of an insert being easier to clean.

[mala78]

I'm too wary to use a TPE It's just a bit tougher to insert in the first place.

if you think this is tough maybe you should try a Wm doll with removable vagina.

I found the length was never right, leaving a large gap between the insert and the entrance. Makes cleanup a mess since stuff can spill inside the vagina cavity, eliminating the whole advantage of an insert being easier to clean.

Wm's inserts are worst case

1st) it is hard to place it in
2st) it is extremely difficult to take it out, i give zero chances to have no tears in the vagina area after 1 month of use if you use it daily.
3st)Stuff going also inside the vagina cavity either way so besides all the trouble with the installation/uninstallation you have to clean the entrance besides the insert.

Overall it is a very bad design/idea.

No wonder why most people here have dolls with fixed vagina.

Even if you check the sales area 95% of the dolls are being sold have fixed vagina.

This month i ll make a youtube video showing what it takes to get the insert out from a WM doll and i bet after seeing this noone will ever buy a Wm doll with insert again.

[Aeron]

I'm too wary to use a TPE It's just a bit tougher to insert in the first place.

if you think this is tough maybe you should try a Wm doll with removable vagina.

I found the length was never right, leaving a large gap between the insert and the entrance. Makes cleanup a mess since stuff can spill inside the vagina cavity, eliminating the whole advantage of an insert being easier to clean.

Wm's inserts are worst case

1st) it is hard to place it in
2st) it is extremely difficult to take it out, i give zero chances to have no tears in the vagina area after 1 month of use if you use it daily.
3st)Stuff going also inside the vagina cavity either way so besides all the trouble with the installation/uninstallation you have to clean the entrance besides the insert.

Overall it is a very bad design/idea.

Since you say WM inserts are the worst, are you suggesting other brands have inserts that actually work cleanly?

[kabuki]

I'm too wary to use a TPE It's just a bit tougher to insert in the first place.

if you think this is tough maybe you should try a Wm doll with removable vagina.

I found the length was never right, leaving a large gap between the insert and the entrance. Makes cleanup a mess since stuff can spill inside the vagina cavity, eliminating the whole advantage of an insert being easier to clean.

Wm's inserts are worst case

1st) it is hard to place it in
2st) it is extremely difficult to take it out, i give zero chances to have no tears in the vagina area after 1 month of use if you use it daily.
3st)Stuff going also inside the vagina cavity either way so besides all the trouble with the installation/uninstallation you have to clean the entrance besides the insert.

Overall it is a very bad design/idea.

No wonder why most people here have dolls with fixed vagina.

Even if you check the sales area 95% of the dolls are being sold have fixed vagina.

This month i ll make a youtube video showing what it takes to get the insert out from a WM doll and i bet after seeing this noone will ever buy a Wm doll with insert again.

Please do, this is the first I'm hearing about this complaint from a WM owner and given that they're bought by a lot of first time doll owners, the public deserves to know.

[Pumpster]

So I bought cheap TPE onahole and I tested reaction by leaving TPE onahole on top of silicone DS insert. Couple of hours later I checked the results and there was certainly some kind of reaction happening. Surfaces that were in contact with eachother were "wet" and wiping it off left round shiny spot with slightly bulged edge on silicone insert. Kind of burn scar and it looks like TPE melted silicone! I guess I'm not fitting TPE stuff into my silicone doll then...