Cassie - WM163 C Review (Lots of pics)

Pip-Doll88 · Post by **Pip-Doll88** » Fri Jun 15, 2018 4:36 pm

She arrived June 14th approx 5 weeks after ordering her. I decided to get this doll from The Doll House because I previously purchased from them a couple years ago, and Phil and Charlie are nice guys to deal with.

I made a post a month back deciding which doll to get. viewtopic.php?f=215&t=99431
My decision was that I wanted a bigger doll and more realistically proportioned, but keeping the weight not too hefty, as I felt the wm140 was a tad small. I ultimately hard a hard choice between the new WM166, WM163 and YL170 but seeing the WM163C meeting most of my needs I decided on her. The 163C is abit unpopular compared to other models so i wanted to try get some word out for her too

Specs of new doll:
WM 163CM C-Cup
Light Tan Skin (My 140 had Tan skin tone and i felt at some certain light conditions she was too dark so wanted a shade lighter)
Standard Mouth
Small pink Aerolas
Fixed Vagina
Aquamarine Eyes
Stand Up Feet
Shrugging Shoulders
Head#162 with 4 free wigs
Clear and natural Nails
No Pubic Hair

Packaging and unboxing:
The Box was pretty large, on the delivery it said it weighed 44kg. Padding surrounded the doll, and she was covered by a pink blanket just like usual wm dolls. However there was quite a big puncture made by the neck bolt of the doll. I suspect the delivery driver must've put her upside down, luckily there was no damage really done to the neck, maybe some slight stretching but no problems.

Box looks ok overall, just bottom part slightly damaged.

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Puncture made by neck bolt.(Probably due to putting box upside down), always abit scary to see some damage but luckily no damage done to doll.

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Some goodies, the pink sleeping gown is really cute and better than the one i got with the wm140. Also a USB warmer is included which is a nice touch.

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Height and Weight
Body taken out of box, Initial impressions I couldnt believe how big and thicker she was compared to my wm140, I thought I might've gotten the wrong doll at first. I knew she would be bigger, but I guess the couple few extra inches makes that big of a difference. But I did some measurements and she measured 32.5"-22.5"-33", Measured her height as well and she was 163cm on the dot with the head on, I weighed her with the head on and she was 35kg/77lb.

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Joints and Body
Hands seem to be sturdier than my wm140 which was purchased at Dec 2016. The hands seem stiffer and the wires seem thicker. All pluses and i hope it holds up well. My wm140 hands are a mess and have all detached from the plate

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Feet seem the same as the wm140 , slightly bigger.

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Vagina looks standard, Ive never had a fixed design before. My WM140 has a insert, but so far I can tell the orifice is very textured and looks more realistic when posing.

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Head on and shes sitting comfortably. Maybe she feels a little cold too XD

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First signs of possible damage to the doll

There is a slight marking across her right breast, and there is a slight indentation you can see when faced against the light. I think it was caused by the packaging of the foam pieces, probably got moved during transit and got stuck on her breast possibly.
(24hrs later , there is improvement and thankfully looks better than this photo. I think it'll recover itself overtime hopefully!)

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I got the shrugging shoulders option and it looks very nice indeed. Adds more realism. However there is one bad thing in that the left shoulder shrug is extremely tight! it takes a good deal of effort to move it compared to the right shoulder, which you can almost move with in one hand. I hope it loosens over time, But its nice to have at least.

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Overall the joints are looser than my wm140 when I initally got her (a year on my wm140 joints are still fairly tight, not much loosen over the year) , Its loose as in I can pose her quite freely with one hand and it holds the position nicely. Only gripe is the left shoulder to move it into up position is abit of pain. Other than that the joints are perfect balance between loose and tight. If i had to give it out of 10 for joint tightness, 10 being too tight and unmovable, 1 being loose or floppy. Id say my wm163 all of the joints are a 5-6 pretty perfect ,and her left shoulder shrug unfortunately a 9. Compared to my wm140 when I got her i'd say a 6-7 in joints, a year on shes probably near the same.

Looks and Feel
The new TPE blend I can feel the immediate difference. I thought my wm140 purchased a year and a half ago was soft. But after feeling this new blend my wm140 feels hard lol. The difference is night and day, the wm163 is so soft and jiggly. Its very nice to the touch indeed. There is a slight TPE smell from her but I'll give her a wash later.

Pip-Doll88 · Post by **Pip-Doll88** » Fri Jun 15, 2018 4:42 pm

Thats better she looks pretty with wig, whats great about ordering from The Doll House is that they give you 3 extra free wigs

She also came with the enhanced mouth, It was a mistake in the order and luckily i wasnt charged for it, No biggie as I dont do oral with my dolls anyway , but the tongue is too far back and not realistically placed but whatever I suppose.

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Pip-Doll88 · Post by **Pip-Doll88** » Fri Jun 15, 2018 4:49 pm

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Some more shots of the body.

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Shoulder shrug adds abit more realism while sleeping on her side. (Wouldn't attempt it with her left shoulder as mentioned before its extremely tight and i feel like i may damage the doll trying to move it up. right is super easy to move at least.)

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Dressed her up with the free sleeping gown. It looks really nice and I like the Asian feel of the clothing.

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Pip-Doll88 · Post by **Pip-Doll88** » Fri Jun 15, 2018 5:07 pm

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Comparision
The height difference is very noticable. But both are great dolls

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Summary
I am very happy with her. Shes better than I had hoped. realistic size and not super heavy. The best thing is the softness of the new TPE blend, it feels lovely, the improved fingers wires (hope they hold up),standing option makes her better than my first TPE doll. The only negatives is the marking/dent on the right breast but its already looking better than yesterday, and her left shoulder for shrugging position is beyond stiff but I hope it'll loosen up given time. Havent had sex with her yet but I bought some femidoms for easy cleanup. Just want to say thanks to the Doll House again

Arthur1960 · Post by **Arthur1960** » Sat Jun 16, 2018 3:33 am

Hi there and thanks for taking the time to do such an in depth review. This sort of thing is really helpful for others especially those thinking about getting their first doll. Your lady looks great and those aquamarine eyes are particularly nice, I thought she looked good with the dark wig. It looks like we may have had deliveries at around the same time as I received another YL148 just a few days ago and coincidentally my gal had the same slight depression on her left breast. From what I can tell they are now leaving a hollow space within the breast towards the top so there's more weight to it at the bottom and that coupled with the new softer tpe makes the breasts seem more realistic and, as you've noticed I'm sure, gives them a nice jiggle! In my opinion the breast on this latest 148 I've received are the most realistic I've seen yet. I'm guessing that this design also leaves them more susceptible to compression marks etc and despite improvements in the Jinsan factory packing your lucky to receive a doll without a bit of transit damage. It seems that whichever courier is involved they just ignore all the instructions on the box. My 148 had a few niggles aside from the compression on the breast (which I'm sure will right itself), I could see the box had been on its side and her right hand had been squeezed and will take time to get back to shape but it already looks better. It always looks worse than it actually is, tpe is quite resilient, last year I received a YL155D and the box had been stood on end and was like that in the truck when it turned up! I knew there would be damage and sure enough both feet had been pushed upwards towards the leg as far as they would go so when I moved the feet back down there were deep grooves in the ankles. I pushed the feet down in the opposite direction and applied a heated wheat bag for a few hours and within a couple of days the tpe had returned to its original state which you would never have thought possible considering how bad it was. Going back to the boob issue, I think I've read on here somewhere that it's possible to get the breast back to its original shape by injecting air into the cavity using a needle and syringe but I would wait and see if it goes back to shape on its own first. Enjoy your new lady!

Pip-Doll88 · Post by **Pip-Doll88** » Sat Jun 16, 2018 4:41 am

Yes I hope it does help some people out there deciding what to pick as there's so much to choose from!

Yes the eyes are great, it's really colourful. I do have a pair of MannequinFan eyes and lids, but I don't want to replace the current ones just yet! As it seems a bit counterproductive for me to rip the lashes and eyes when I've only just had her. I'll wait until her lashes get loose then ill replace maybe them. I do like the lids tho, sleeping is better!

Yes the breast are great for sure, so soft. 2 days onward and it seems the mark is pretty much gone and compression/Dent is still present but getting better each day

Sounds like you had some bad experience with couriers

At least they made it at one piece and get home, I hope your new doll recovers quickly

The needle sounds interesting, but I don't think it's bad. And yes I will wait, I think that's the best thing to do at the moment. Also her right toe the wire is abit loose last night, maybe banged it during movement or cleaning. Not too big issue as the fingers are more important. Gotta be gentle with the ladies!

Pip-Doll88 · Post by **Pip-Doll88** » Sat Jun 16, 2018 6:17 pm

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Little update, the marking on her breast seems to have vanished which is great. The compression is getting less visible each day which is great

Swampkandy · Post by **Swampkandy** » Sat Jun 16, 2018 8:38 pm

Congrats on your new lady - she is certainly a stunner.

Agreed, Phil and Charlie from the Doll House are great, can definitely recommend them.

Dollicious2 · Post by **Dollicious2** » Sun Jun 17, 2018 2:51 am

Hi Pip
Very nice WM 163cm c cup
As you can see the small creases on the breasts

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are all probably gone by now as the TPE is relaxing.
It doesn't hurt to apply some Vaseline to the skin to help , I use Vaseline on the nipples every couple weeks or so as they will dry up and need moisturizing.

As for the slight depression on her right breast I believe that is from a little too much air had been let out , I believe the makers are relaxing the breasts after the doll comes out of the mold and cools down the breasts are very firm with the air pockets blown up like balloons from the process and heat.
Good news is you can simply let some air back in with a needle

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without any kind of air pressure forcing it.
I would never try to force air in like they are literally balloons.
Here is a page to read about breast air reduction and air in letting I did on my doll Olinka viewtopic.php?f=11&t=93693&start=195 who needed air taken out as her breasts were too full and not relaxed looking.
WM / YL have made great improvement in relaxing the breasts but it's not an exact science, it's a modification that's very simple during the finishing of the dolls.
Also you'll notice as you adjust her shoulders and turn or tilt her torso from side to side her breasts will take on a new shape as well.
Anyways you can wait longer for the breast to possibly return to it's original form but if it doesn't she just needs air let in and that'll get it to the look desired.
They look & feel so real relaxed I'm sure you guys will agree

DL2

PaulDenton2001 · Post by **PaulDenton2001** » Sun Jun 17, 2018 3:05 am

She looks great, congratz. I'm sure the boobs will be fine after a month.

Pip-Doll88 · Post by **Pip-Doll88** » Sun Jun 17, 2018 8:04 am

Dollicious2 wrote:Hi Pip
Very nice WM 163cm c cup
As you can see the small creases on the breasts are all probably gone by now as the TPE is relaxing.
It doesn't hurt to apply some Vaseline to the skin to help , I use Vaseline on the nipples every couple weeks or so as they will dry up and need moisturizing.

As for the slight depression on her right breast I believe that is from a little too much air had been let out , I believe the makers are relaxing the breasts after the doll comes out of the mold and cools down the breasts are very firm with the air pockets blown up like balloons from the process and heat.
Good news is you can simply let some air back in with a needle without any kind of air pressure forcing it.
I would never try to force air in like they are literally balloons.
Here is a page to read about breast air reduction and air in letting I did on my doll Olinka viewtopic.php?f=11&t=93693&start=195 who needed air taken out as her breasts were too full and not relaxed looking.
WM / YL have made great improvement in relaxing the breasts but it's not an exact science, it's a modification that's very simple during the finishing of the dolls.
Also you'll notice as you adjust her shoulders and turn or tilt her torso from side to side her breasts will take on a new shape as well.
Anyways you can wait longer for the breast to possibly return to it's original form but if it doesn't she just needs air let in and that'll get it to the look desired.
They look & feel so real relaxed I'm sure you guys will agree
DL2

Many thanks for the tips DL2

Yes the creases are pretty much all gone and not visible, which Is good!

I gave her a wash and full baby oil treatment so hopefully won't dry up too quick! And yes I agree using vaseline on the stress parts is great and will keep that up.

That's very thoughtful I didn't think about relaxing the breasts after the mold and heat! I'd imagine they would blow up quite abit during it.

The depression on her right breast is not very visible right now unless under harsh light which is good,but you can slightly feel it. I don't have a syringe at the moment but I'll look into it in the next couple weeks and she how she is

Zippy81 · Post by **Zippy81** » Sun Jun 17, 2018 4:04 pm

Boob issue aside she looks amazing man! Love all the pics with different hair colors. She looks great in all of them! Really love the black with those eyes though!

Dollicious2 · Post by **Dollicious2** » Sun Jun 17, 2018 4:56 pm

Pip-Doll88 wrote:
Many thanks for the tips DL2
Yes the creases are pretty much all gone and not visible, which Is good!

I gave her a wash and full baby oil treatment so hopefully won't dry up too quick! And yes I agree using vaseline on the stress parts is great and will keep that up.

That's very thoughtful I didn't think about relaxing the breasts after the mold and heat! I'd imagine they would blow up quite abit during it.

The depression on her right breast is not very visible right now unless under harsh light which is good,but you can slightly feel it. I don't have a syringe at the moment but I'll look into it in the next couple weeks and she how she is

I bought my syringe at Wal-Mart pharmacy for penny's, I told them I needed it for injecting seasoning into the meat I'm cooking in the oven.

Pip-Doll88 · Post by **Pip-Doll88** » Sun Jun 17, 2018 8:23 pm

Dollicious2 wrote: I bought my syringe at Wal-Mart pharmacy for penny's, I told them I needed it for injecting seasoning into the meat I'm cooking in the oven.

Lol that's a good reason xD.
I could probably got one off ebay as well, but yea I'll see how it goes.

Pip-Doll88 · Post by **Pip-Doll88** » Sun Jun 17, 2018 8:25 pm

Zippy81 wrote:Boob issue aside she looks amazing man! Love all the pics with different hair colors. She looks great in all of them! Really love the black with those eyes though!

Thanks

Yea so many wigs and experiment with different styles is fun. I like the eyes alot, feels like WM dolls improved them abit. I've a pair of MF eyes and lids but I'll wait until the lashes get loose or damage before changing them
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