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This YL Doll YL-165 with Allura head #193 travels to Germany

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Hi,

this YL Doll YL-165 body style with no. 193 head (Jinshan #193) aka Allura travels to Germany:
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Above is the factory's first iteration. It didn't match the requested body makeup yet.

Here is the corrected (final) version:
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Configuration as depicted in the factory photos above:
  • Body: YL-165
  • Head: #193 (Allura)
  • Standing skeleton
  • Skin color: "Nava" black (as dark as possible)
  • Eye color: yellow [yes, this is possible with Allura!]
  • Dark make-up
  • Arola size: big
  • Nipple & labia color: darker as skin color
  • Wig: long, black
  • Finger & toe nails: clear French manicure
  • Vagina: built-in (fixed)
I am pretty sure we will see more of this girl in a while… :mrgreen:

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Re: This YL Doll YL-165 with Allura head #193 travels to Ger

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She looks so sexy. I like that combination.

No Faceapp please. I want to see dolls, not artificial smiles.

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She's still in transit. But if you like her already, then keep an eye out for Mamamba or MsStrangeLove
(the same doll in different roles). We'll develope our first project together over here: viewtopic.php?f=113&t=96159
The final versions will be shown on Nele's art thread and on her DeviantArt page and I'll might even set up an Pornhub account for her. ;)
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Re: This YL Doll YL-165 with Allura head #193 travels to Ger

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Alright! Good news! Mamamba arrived today! :)

My first "really" full size and heavy weight doll.
My first TPE one and my first black one.

No damages to the doll or even the packaging. Not even a flat bum.
Good job UPS and everybody involved! And I have to say she was even better "tugged in",
then Nele my 2015 DS160, who was kinda free floating in her box.

Having a "really" full size curvy doll around for the first time is a different sensation.
However the TPE is way too soft for my taste. It's certainly great for breasts and butts,
but not the entire body. But I will not "use" her as a sex doll, so it doesn't really matter.
However should I ever buy a sex-doll again I'll probably go with silicone and gel implants.

The smell is noticeable, but not too bad, silicone smells nicer though IMHO.

All joints are tight but not too tight, except the back joint (her spine).
That one is so tight that I have to use both arms and my upper body to make the slightest adjustments.
Her wrists however are "looser" which is good so you don't damage the fragile hands.
In comparison to my DS160 again a huge plus, because the tightest joints in Nele's body
are her wrists, which already lead to damages to her palms unfortunately.

So in conclusion, this YL doll is actually better than expected and looks just like I hoped she would. :)

Right now she is laying on my bed, and I'm a little bit clueless how to proceed.
She needs be washed because she is covered with some sort of brown powder.

I'll probably have to reposition my stripper pole, lean her against it in the middle of the room
and give her a sponge bath with very little water. As soon as she is cleaned,
I can take final measurements and order her makeup and an outfit.

OK guys, lots of work and heavy lifting ahead, I'll better get to it. :)
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OK that worked fine at first until she decided to jump into my arms while I was kneeling in front of her.
40kg is too much for me to handle, so we both ended up laying on the ground, all wet and soapy. :D

I guess I'm lucky to have linoleum floor which is waterproof because it turns out TPE slides frictionless
on it's surface when you apply just a tiny bit of water. Amazing! 8O

I'll have to remember that if I want to have sex with a heavy TPE doll like her someday... :lol:

OK, plan B: I'll put my bar stool in the shower and try to wash her again.
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nukeno wrote:OK, plan B: I'll put my bar stool in the shower and try to wash her again.
That's a good idea! Please remember to cover the screws in the soles of her feet when taking a shower (plastic bag & rubber band).

Good luck!

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Dollstudio wrote:Please remember to cover the screws in the soles of her feet when taking a shower (plastic bag & rubber band).
Yeah, too late for that. :whistle:
I guess I just remove the screws, blow air in the holes and let it dry over night.
And then she got water in her eyes too, so I had to remove them too.
I always kinda have to learn the hard way... ;)
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Don't know why but the nipple color has faded away and blended in with the rest of the body.
It happened on its own, I only washed her once and haven't done much with her so far...
But it doesn't matter, because she has these little suckers now... ;)

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Also the "brown" kinda rubs of onto her clothes and onto oneself while handling her.
The TPE seams to be releasing the colored filler / pigment on its surface.
I guess that's probably normal though and only noticeable with ebony dolls like her.
It's just that I haven't heard or read about this anywhere on TDF before...
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OMG. This is so sexy. Please give us more photos.

I love the contrast of that dark body and those sexy white teeths. :thumbs_up:

No Faceapp please. I want to see dolls, not artificial smiles.

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lover1 wrote:OMG. This is so sexy. Please give us more photos.
There will be pictures as part of my current art project.
But summer time is not doll time so it will take a while.
I'll get her corsage hopefully next week and have received new stockings for her today.
And I've done some work on other details in the meanwhile... be patient, it's coming! ;)
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To be fair, I'd expected worse before I ordered my first TPE doll.
Now after 3-4 months in total, but only about 1-2 months of wearing fishnet stockings, the first nasty damages have occurred: :(
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She was just wearing the stockings and sitting there the whole time like shown in this picture, she was not once down on her knees or on "all fours".
Since this doll is too heavy for me to do anything else with and because I would really like to keep her as part of this art project just as she is,
I think I'll just dress her in a pair of opaque overknee socks instead of fishnet stockings or try something else to hide the damage as best as possible.

I don't blame anyone for this, with TPE you get what you are paying for. This is just a damage report.
And a reminder to myself, that this doll will be my first, my last and my only TPE doll ever. Just too heavy and too fragile.
When I have to refill the furry ball (cocoon) she is sitting on one day, we will see what kind of damages longterm sitting will do to her bum next...
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OK, I had to lift her up anyway to change the stockings and had a look at her bum too.

It's interesting, because it's not what I expected to see. The damage occurred right at the borderline where the stockings ended, and the area she was sitting on began.
The stockings must have pulled the flesh downwards while her ass stayed put on that ball what led to this nasty wounds.
The rest of her ass, the area she was sitting, on looks surprisingly well. It's not even flattened out much, just the indentations from the furry ball.

So yeah, this gives you an idea how soft and weak this material really is. Because all the damages are just caused by wearing fishnet stockings.
Not by handling, fucking or anything else.

I have seen similar damages on another black TPE doll on TDF before, other white TPE dolls seem to do just fine for the most part.
Maybe this really is an issue with the dark TPE formula in particular, that the pigment weakens the material.

BTW, she is still sweating oily brownish pigment. The stockings I pulled off, are not white at all anymore but have a noticeable brownish tint now.
So there is no use in dressing her in white opaque overknees to hide the knee damage either, because they will get stained soon.

I'll guess she can't wear stockings anymore and has to stand the rest of her life... :(
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Hi,

I think we have a couple of different issues here. Just judging from the photos, my thoughts are:

(1) Fishnet stockings and soft TPE blends = playing with fire. It is to be expected that a sharp fiber like nylon would indentations or even cut into a soft material if some pressure is applied (e.g. tight fit). What amplifies this effect that she wears the fishnet stockings over extended periods of time. I wouldn't even dare to do this with a (firm) silicone doll. Tight-fit outfits are for play and an occasional photo shooting. A human woman wouldn't permanenty wear it for weeks or months either. For display, that's what fiberglass and PE mannequins are for. No question, the etched-in pattern is upsetting, but it's not a real surprise on a TPE doll after wearing it for several weeks/months.

(2) Stretching tears in high stress areas. If the knees are bend, it puts high tension on the material covering the 'knee caps'. It seems that the Jinsan TPE blend, at least the variant in dark brown skin color, can not cope with this if tension is applied over extended periods of time. We have seen injuries like this before, but not all TPE blends are as delicate as this chocolate-like stuff.

This is a major difference with alternative materials like silicone. My DS sits for over two years with bent knees in an easychair and she shows no signs of a comparable injury. My fabric Happy Doll can sit for years as well, also no signs of overstretching or tears on knees or elbows.

Based on that one could deduce the recommendation that TPE dolls should not sit over extended periods of time. That would be a pretty serious limitation. Though, the (ancient) recommendation is not to leave any doll in a unchanged pose for extended periods of time with exception of the factory reset pose. I think this rule exists for a decade, and it still seems to apply at least to certain dolls.

(3) Material decomposition. That is the really worrying part. The material seems to fall apart by itself after about four months. That is shocking if it is not caused by external factors like excessive mineral oil care, heat, usage of detergents etc. If a TPE doll decomposes by itself after four months it's a WTF.

It does not make it better that this might be an issue with the Jinsan TPE that exists for well over a year. Just a couple of days ago I got a report from haremlover which documented a similar issue with a doll from January 2017:
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According to haremlover's notes, the doll shown above was manufactured between December 2016 and January 2017. She is supposed to be an authentic Jinsan doll, obtained through a (known) TDF-accredited vendor and supplied by a (known) TDF-accredited OEM manufacturer (not YL Doll). Though it is not documented when the decomposition started. The noteworthy part is that the Jinsan TPE blend from 2016/2017 is a different one than used in 2018. So whatever this decomposition causes, it's inherited through different generations of Jinsan TPE blends. If I had to make a guess, I'd suspect the pigments. However, if these two cases are not freak accidents, why the heck isn't the factory looking into this?

The common denominator seems to be: a) Jinsan TPE; b) black respectively dark tan skin color; c) doll primarily used for display/posing. So it is not regular wear and tear by sexual use (like tears in anus or vagina).

I have asked Eric (YL Doll) for a comment; however, I think it's pretty clear that the issue nukeno has experienced is not specific for YL Doll.

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