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I ordered a 161cm dollhouse168 model with "Ai" head, and now I'm getting a bit worried because the face can look pretty young depending on who you ask. Are there any other cases where people have been prosecuted even for a fully adult body with just a kind-of childlike face, or am I being paranoid? Here's the doll in question: http://www.dollhouse168.biz/product_in.php?id=49
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Do you live in Canada ?
I wouldn’t say it looks child like young .

Floydpink wrote:I ordered a 161cm dollhouse168 model with "Ai" head, and now I'm getting a bit worried because the face can look pretty young depending on who you ask. Are there any other cases where people have been prosecuted even for a fully adult body with just a kind-of childlike face, or am I being paranoid? Here's the doll in question: http://www.dollhouse168.biz/product_in.php?id=49

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FirstOrder wrote:Do you live in Canada ?
I wouldn’t say it looks child like young .

Floydpink wrote:I ordered a 161cm dollhouse168 model with "Ai" head, and now I'm getting a bit worried because the face can look pretty young depending on who you ask. Are there any other cases where people have been prosecuted even for a fully adult body with just a kind-of childlike face, or am I being paranoid? Here's the doll in question: http://www.dollhouse168.biz/product_in.php?id=49
Not Canada but another country that treats child dolls as child porn. Good to hear you don't think it looks young, I hope the custom agents agree. But I noticed the face does have some objective childlike features, for example the eyes are not dead center between the top and bottom of head, instead they are a bit lower.
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You never know with customs officers, but the doll definantly passes for adult representation.

The factories really need to put a little more effort in to putting makeup on the doll, as it really does take away that youthful look and give some more colour and texture to their faces.

The 161cm body and Asian look easily passes for 18-25 if presented so. Customs job is more in line with stopping the actual child looking dolls that are imported. At the end of the day, if what you import is legal, then they will gladly take a cut on duties.

But yeah, the waiting is horrible, and the fear mongers who don't understand how a doll could be treated as an IPA (intimate partner alternative) are just ruffling feathers.

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Floydpink wrote:I ordered a 161cm dollhouse168 model with "Ai" head, and now I'm getting a bit worried because the face can look pretty young depending on who you ask. Are there any other cases where people have been prosecuted even for a fully adult body with just a kind-of childlike face, or am I being paranoid? Here's the doll in question: http://www.dollhouse168.biz/product_in.php?id=49
Hi Floydpink,

The UK can be paranoid regarding dolls, and we had a visit from The National Crime Agency regarding smaller dolls.
They said that they were only interested in dolls of 140cm or under, irrespective of the dimensions of the doll, or the head.
So it will depend upon where you are in the world as to what advice can be given.

That said, the 161cm height should put you in a good position with Customs officials.
If the order hasn't shipped yet, request that the head and body are shipped separately, as this will increase likelihood of getting through Customs.
DM me if you've any questions that you don't want to post publicly on the forum.
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FirstOrder wrote:I live in Canada and given our current laws I am wondering if one of the smaller piper dolls would even make it through customs?
As a matter of fact, I have purposely ordered a 100cm doll to see if the CBSA will stop it at the border.
It is a TPE doll with no sex holes and no sexual function.
I've asked for the doll to be clothed when shipped.
I believe the declaration is "silicone model" which I interpret to be mannequin made of silicone plastic.

As some of you know, Alyss is my avatar, she is a BJD.
I also own a Tokyodoll that is 1/3 scale, her name is Minnie and a nameless Barbie.
At this point I only have 1 sex doll, she is for sale as virgin. They can take a blacklight to it, I don't have sex with this doll.

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I agree with the policy 100%. I only like full-grown women anyway. This leaves one very important question though. What do we do about the guys with an Asian fetish? I don't mean to sound like a racist @$$-hole, but I have never seen an Asian woman that did not look like a 12-14-year-old. Seriously.

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Agalmato wrote:
FirstOrder wrote:I live in Canada and given our current laws I am wondering if one of the smaller piper dolls would even make it through customs?
As a matter of fact, I have purposely ordered a 100cm doll to see if the CBSA will stop it at the border.
It is a TPE doll with no sex holes and no sexual function.
I've asked for the doll to be clothed when shipped.
I believe the declaration is "silicone model" which I interpret to be mannequin made of silicone plastic.

As some of you know, Alyss is my avatar, she is a BJD.
I also own a Tokyodoll that is 1/3 scale, her name is Minnie and a nameless Barbie.
At this point I only have 1 sex doll, she is for sale as virgin. They can take a blacklight to it, I don't have sex with this doll.
I hope it works out! Well if your doll passes I’m trying next, when funds permit. She’s gonna be busty and a sweet but adult face. With a hole, thoug apparently it can be “sealed” for shipping. We’ll see.
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This is not a child. Look at those cans.
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Henry869 wrote:I hope it works out! Well if your doll passes I’m trying next, when funds permit. She’s gonna be busty and a sweet but adult face. With a hole, thoug apparently it can be “sealed” for shipping. We’ll see.
It's too bad they (China) is on holidays this week and are not back to work until after the 8th, but sure...I'll keep you posted.

Maybe we should have a private forum for 100cm (or under) owners only.

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Henry869 wrote:This is not a child. Look at those cans.
Solely based on this one image I agree, to me this face is more fantasy than childlike.

Still, in general, there's a problem with big-boobed bodies having childlike faces. These dolls are not accepted under current rules of TDF.

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None of these cases are surviving court, they are going to court but they can't hold up, it's making a mockery of the justice system and it's intended purpose and i'd imagine the judges immediately have their head in their hands wondering why any proceeding on the dolls is taking place, except in obvious extreme cases where the offender actually has a history and has child porn and things like that and has ordered a very childlike doll (under 13 looking)...but even then the cases lose if they focus on the doll because it screws up the prosecution in a way.

The offender can claim they are not a danger to the public because they have the doll or that they was going for the doll in an attempt to "cure" or reform themselves. If the prosecution ignores the doll and focuses on actual crimes (you know ones that involve actual victims not plastic) they would have better success at conviction.

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Shipping just finalized on mine. Shes 5'1" looks in her mid 20s to me. Woohoo my first post.

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There seems to be a 'witch hunt' mentality for prosecuting anyone that has a sexual thought about a legal minor in civilized culture these days. And yet a certain hypocritical tolerance for the portrayal of this in Hollywood still exists. I never understood how Pretty Baby could be lauded and allowed to be sold, and almost any other direct reference or inference to pedophilia chastised. Many direct appropriate discussions get 'hijacked' or shut down. It makes me wonder just how many adults have a secret desire for the 'naughty' side of that sexual dynamic. I think too often attraction to 'naughty sex' gets confused with pedophilia and the other 'underage' philias. I see and hear the term 'pedophilia'/'pedophile' misused in our culture most of the time in the media.
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I'm a potential first time doll buyer, and reading through this thread makes me apprehensive about buying one at all. I've been looking at dolls around 155cm, but the last thing I would want is to deal with the consequences of some customs agent not liking the doll I choose to import. I think it's pretty discouraging.

There seems to be lots of conflicting information in this thread. Some posts suggest that under current US law there are no restrictions on importing dolls. Yet others suggest that people can actually get in trouble for importing them. Doing my own research, the only news stories I've found mentioning dolls were from actual offenders that happened to have young looking dolls. I haven't seen anyone getting in trouble for dolls alone but I could easily be missing this as my search was not exhaustive by any means.

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