Rzrzn doll #3 impressions/ experience

Ztar073 · Post by **Ztar073** » Sat Jun 30, 2018 6:05 pm

Never had a silicone doll and was curious. My tpe doll has been good to me over the past 10 or so months and is my point of comparison. I suppose it would have been wiser to go with the DS167evo I had been looking into. This doll was the only one to get me off the fence however. I was half expecting a scam and wiser doll owners warned against unproven dolls.
So anyway, Do to some shipping issues I ended up picking it up from fedex myself.

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the package was poorly shrink wrapped with one of the hinges open . Someone had peaked inside apparently. They really should have covered this case in a box.it felt like it weighed about 120lbs . I'm a strong guy but it was still a struggle to treat something like that respectfully . Once I got it home and opened it....

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Ztar073 · Post by **Ztar073** » Sat Jun 30, 2018 6:15 pm

No damage had been done to the doll in shipping. It was good to know I had received what I ordered and as you can see , her initial impression was amazing. I started looking at the details and sure enough, it was all there more or less. Very impressive!

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She came with a outfit, Alan wrench, incomplete movement guide, condoms?, and numbered certificate.

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Ztar073 · Post by **Ztar073** » Sat Jun 30, 2018 6:28 pm

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playing with her hands for a moment, it is clear her fingers work as intended. Her fingers do not spread however and her thumb is not really opposable. Her palms and fingers have a much more substantial skeleton inside then my tpe doll. Then I notice the finger tips.

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every finger is glued at the tip like this and I wonder if it is part of the process of building these fingers. Doesn't look like a great solution.
So out of the box then

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Post by **SRSD** » Sat Jun 30, 2018 6:33 pm

Thanks so much for sharing!! we are glad to see that you like it!!

About the box, unfortunately, Custom agents usually open them, that is why even when wrapped, shipped in flight cases locked, etc.. they arrive opened... I wish we could find a way to avoid that, but it is hard to avoid,

Please reach out if you have any questions!

Ztar073 · Post by **Ztar073** » Sat Jun 30, 2018 6:43 pm

I would describe this dolls softness as "firm". Not to surprising given the detail of her skin. Can't compare her to another silicone doll however.

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this doll is supposed to be a built in. It looks and feels like an insert inside the vagina. I have felt inside with my fingers and it is very soft in this insert. It feels like that will feel very good in there with lots of detail, but I have not tried it just yet. I did put a drum stick up there to measure. Looks like it is about 6 inches deep for those wondering.

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in some places there are no seams and in others the seams are poorly cut and not at the perceived level of the dolls detail.

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I do not appreciate the attempt at gluing the wig on the doll as this resulted in as little of the finish coming off of dollies forehead and the brown color of the wig staining the top of her head

Ztar073 · Post by **Ztar073** » Sat Jun 30, 2018 6:55 pm

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examining the leg pieces , I couldn't help but admire the detail and take notice of the weight.

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one negative thing I noticed is that the legs are hyper extended. What I mean is the lock straight past the point that they should.

Ztar073 · Post by **Ztar073** » Sat Jun 30, 2018 6:56 pm

SRSD wrote:Thanks so much for sharing!! we are glad to see that you like it!!

About the box, unfortunately, Custom agents usually open them, that is why even when wrapped, shipped in flight cases locked, etc.. they arrive opened... I wish we could find a way to avoid that, but it is hard to avoid,

Please reach out if you have any questions!

Saying that I like it is jumping the gun as you will see.

Ztar073 · Post by **Ztar073** » Sat Jun 30, 2018 7:05 pm

And this is where shit gets bad!

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As you can see a mistake was made in manufacturing here. Ether the skeleton in the leg or torso was not lined up in the mold correctly causing the leg to mismatch the torso.maybe some thing should be done about it. Maybe I will complain.

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getting the bolts into the holes is a little tricky to line up properly. Still working on it with the right leg.

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Ztar073 · Post by **Ztar073** » Sat Jun 30, 2018 7:23 pm

The skeleton; I thought with WM involved that the skeleton on this doll might be a modified version of theirs. While I can not confirm that it is not it sure doesn't feel like it. The good: the neck shits on my goose neck tpe doll. Great articulation. The shoulders are also nice so far. The doll does have shrugging shoulders as well as the range of motion shown in previous videos.

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the bad: the hips. How do I start...... they need to redesign this.she can barely get her legs to a sitting angle. And her vag gets caught up with her legs when moved to a sitting position. It's almost like there is too much material in the way for the hips to function properly.

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with the doll lying on her back. If you pull the leg up to 90 degrees, it will likely have fallen back down by the time you get the other leg up. The left leg seems more troublesome here then the right.

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I also want to say that I can not get the ankles to move up and down. They seem stuck in a high heels position.

Ztar073 · Post by **Ztar073** » Sat Jun 30, 2018 7:31 pm

Given the dolls lack of movement I could not help but feel a little disappointed.
Next morning came and time to mess with the doll again right.

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Ztar073 · Post by **Ztar073** » Sat Jun 30, 2018 7:38 pm

I should also mention that her mid section moves forward and back . Also side to side. But far less then my tpe doll.

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decided to dress her in her clothes and see if she can stand

haremlover · Post by **haremlover** » Sat Jun 30, 2018 7:41 pm

It appears that she doesn't have toenails. . . . ?

I'm disappointed that from what you say you're not over the moon about her. (Subsequent to writing I see your further posts. Oh dear.)

It's really difficult for a new manufacturer to get off the ground with a new design and get it right first time. The redesign of a 167 silicone doll resulting in an EVO model this year arose partly from my comments to the manufacturer concerned and I've helped a a few other manufacturers get things right as well. I've mentioned to both Sam and to SRSD that I'd have liked to have helped them get this doll right and in view of your guarded comments I'm frustrated not to have been involved resulting in disappointment not only of you but no doubt of a number of other people, and embarrassment for the manufacturers.

In my interviewing of prototype and production dolls for other manufacturers I've met
- skeletons with insufficient range of movement
- skeletons made of too thin tubing which twists and breaks
- skeletons with components that shear
- TPE material that falls apart
- anatomy that's clearly near inaccessible for sex and or directed in totally the wrong direction
- boobs which feel like solid footballs
- joints which are either very stiff or rather loose unevenly adjusted on the same doll
and advised manufacturers on weight reduction, avoiding finger pokes and a good deal more. But the problems you're encountering are very obvious and a horrible disappointment. I've expressed surprise that factories don't have someone at the factory who tests their doll designs which is why I've been useful to some and clearly RZRZN has needed that overview before launching the product.

I hope that they take whatever you have to say about this doll seriously so that they might attend to those matters before shipping any more out and send you a corrected design doll into the bargain.

Best wishes

Harem

PS Are those metal bands around the leg/torso joints? My wife certainly doesn't have those . . . and in this artificial human I'd think them rather offputting for cuddling in bed from behind . . . Dolls need to be capable of more than looking seductive in photos and this manufacturer really did need doll-user advice in the stage before going public with their offering. These sorts of issues are what had me worried and what I've been expressing caution about since reading the first announcements. Getting it right for people spending a lot of money is really important to the encouragement of enthusiasm for dolls.

Ztar073 · Post by **Ztar073** » Sat Jun 30, 2018 7:55 pm

Her breast are supposedly gel filled but they do not feel soft.

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Ztar073 · Post by **Ztar073** » Sat Jun 30, 2018 7:59 pm

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haremlover · Post by **haremlover** » Sat Jun 30, 2018 8:11 pm

When posing her eyes try to get the iris slightly more into the upper half of the space between the eyelids and this is more natural, avoiding a stare.

Best wishes

Harem