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SRSD wrote:Just so we can pass on your feedback and understand better what you guys want, in this particular case (one of the best for anal sex) do you want the anal hole to be moved up (farther away from the vagina) or down (closer to the vagina)

No more space between the anus and vagina than a couple of fingers wide. I am a health care pro, anatomy trained. If the vagina is in the correct position, which most of them aren't on these dolls (have any manufacturers ever studied female anatomy, or even actually experienced the real thing?), then space the anus no more than two or three finger widths away, depending on the size of the doll. Also, when designing the vagina, a real woman's vaginal canal opening is more adjacent to the anus than it is to the clitoris. It isn't exactly centered between the labia. I believe that the more adjacent to the anus you make the vaginal canal opening the easier the access might also be.

Don't make the change if you're just trying to cater to us and what we THINK we want. The REALITY of what we want is simple realism, bottom line (no pun intended). I have every confidence that once manufacturers work out the flaws in the making of the molds/injections, etc., in a way that makes it easier to produce a more realistic anatomical product it will be easier for the designers to correct this issue. Obviously, holding the doll/skeleton up by the vagina just isn't working. Changing this would also make TPE plugs in the vagina (that can break and contaminate the inside of the doll with bacteria-fueling seminal fluid) obsolete.

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SRSD wrote:Just so we can pass on your feedback and understand better what you guys want, in this particular case (one of the best for anal sex) do you want the anal hole to be moved up (farther away from the vagina) or down (closer to the vagina)

@SRSD I think the group consensus is to move the rectum further away from the vaginal opening, and lower the overall position of the orifices.

Without getting too medical, most of the dolls I think we can all admit have the vaginal opening too high up in the pelvic area, where accurately the vaginal opening should be almost center of the legs, then to account for an average perineum, the rectum should be 3.9-4.2cm away from the bottom of the vagina.

Just offering my 2cents. Please don't roast me.
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Johanson wrote:
SRSD wrote:Just so we can pass on your feedback and understand better what you guys want, in this particular case (one of the best for anal sex) do you want the anal hole to be moved up (farther away from the vagina) or down (closer to the vagina)

@SRSD I think the group consensus is to move the rectum further away from the vaginal opening, and lower the overall position of the orifices.

Without getting too medical, most of the dolls I think we can all admit have the vaginal opening too high up in the pelvic area, where accurately the vaginal opening should be almost center of the legs, then to account for an average perineum, the rectum should be 3.9-4.2cm away from the bottom of the vagina.

Just offering my 2cents. Please don't roast me.
You're correct. 4 to 5cm is average. That's from the bottom tip, where the labia meet, to the anus, and not from the vaginal canal opening to the anus.

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Lol @wynncamp52 sounds like we should start our own manufacturing, since it almost seems like all the manufacturers either ignore us, or just done care.

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Thanks for the feedback!!
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    The new dollhouse168 2019 155cm
    This looks pretty good to me! The thing with the Piper girls is the tiny hole in all the sizes. Unless you have a pencil pecker you're gonna split her.
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    SRSD wrote:Thanks for the feedback!!
    @srsd, thank you for listening.

    I'm not trying to be snippy, but it is frustrating. There are these amazing and beautiful creations, but its ike manufacturing has chosen form over function, and it feels like ( at least for me) that we have this amazing resource of TDF where the consumer base is screaming for more anatomically correct orifice placement, but no one listens. I mean with p-hub and all the other reference material out there, even getting someone who knows human anatomy to help with design for anatomical correctness would put that product further ahead in the market.

    Thanks for letting me rant.


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    You are totally right, it should kept up. And again, the vagina should be positioned more backwards (together with the anus). My WM163H (heavy weight) has a problem with the hip joints and always tries to stretch the legs backwards whilst in doggy position. That makes a doggy nearly impossible, since the vagina is placed far too much forward. And I think with 19cm operational length THIS shouldn'd be the problem. 8)

    In missionary this is obviously no problem at all. But that is not what the doll is bought for.

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    Well sorta interesting read...I agree on the wrong placement for a big titted girl being less an issue, but for a nice ass and thigh girls; it's just very wrong to put out models which are like 10cm to high up. Seems to me it's a choice (to not change this) and not a must (from manu, as some say/think). And it will continue as long as people keep buying these horrendously displaced gals.

    Good thing there are at least a few rather well placed ones out there. I can just only hope they sell way better so the manu understands there is more $$$ in that, and thinks "hey, why the hell not produce them anatomically correct?". Man I've seen so many lovely asses in doggy where you cannot even see the vag, it's just sad and incomprehensible really. BTW this thread does have some of the very worst I ever seen; once that really make you think how the hell they are available / passed development and went in production...and assumable even getting sold.
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    I was really surprised a couple weeks ago when I took a closer look at Sanhui's seamless 160 doll. I always thought it was the same body as the original 160, but it's a new upgraded version. I know people say their hole placement is good, but this looks like the next level :D
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    visually, my Piper 155cm Nozomi is a bit off, but in actual use it has been easily capable of any position I have used with real women including doggie, and its many variants. (well, the woman on top is hard but that is mostly due to the weight.) It is heavily used, with lots of anal, oral, and vaginal, and so far nothing has torn.

    EDIT: Whoops, sorry for bumping an old thread...I didn't realize it was a year stale...

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    My piper 150 Jessica is spot on for hole placement. You can hit her from any angle!

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    I still think anatomically that Gynoid Tech is worth mentioning too, for those that don't mind the lack of anal. For me, it's no problem. I was also under the impression that the incorrect placement of the vagina and anus on most dolls was due to being able to get enough strength with such a thin synthetic material between the two holes without inevitably tearing. And until a synthetic material around CAN in fact be only a handful of millimetres thick (like a real woman) then we won't have a true authentic feel.

    For me however, I'm happy with a single correctly placed orifice. My ex rarely let me in the other hole anyway in our time together haha

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    Siliconeman wrote:
    As we stated above, it really depends on the model and there some amazing and realistic ones too, have you seen this one for example?
    I would think that a seller would like to give a good example. This is the bad example of the anal and vaginal placement. I dag into my porn collection and found poses similar to those represented at your pictures. You can clearly see the problem. This doll will not be a very good doggy style doll. SRSD, if you have good connections to manufacturers you could try to make them improve their products. Fancy ass but unfuckable asshole somewhere unreachable between the cheeks produces unhappy customers.

    I censored real images japanese style, I hope those images are DF approved.


    Sadly not as we have certain members on a crusade reporting these all the time.

    So as per my edit tags....by all means post them but not as attachments, post them as img links behind URL tags, and that is within the RoC and will prevent others reporting posts with human genitals shown as evidently anus are also genitals too so censoring vags with a thin line, does not do the trick enough for attachments hosted on the TDF server. Img links are not!.

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