164 d wire wrists?

[RGC_0767]

Everything is a cost factor. Products are getting made cheaper all the time. Not cheap in dollar value, cheap in quality. 1000% profit would have been unheard of decades ago. Not anymore.
Yep I've worked for a couple companies where turnover was high. Shitty jobs, shitty pay I was one of those who one day did not return LOL

Yeah, if it's just only a cost factor that would be very stupid in the end. A disappointed customer isn't really beneficial. There isn't even the opportunity to decide what to choose
Maybe it's a lack of parts... I don't know..
Though it must be a reason for doing this. Otherwise it makes absolutely no sense..

I'm playing around with an idea for a ball bearing wrist to incorporate into the tube. Not an engineer, just like to tinker.
Hot Rod custom dolly

That sounds really cool
Please more details & stay us informed
Was doing some broken/dislocated wire repair from the wrist plate myself with experimenting with different materials..

Idea of a ball bearing wrist not a lot different from WM hinged wrist. Just some side to side and up and down. Just putting a swivel on a palm plate basically.
My only concern when dolly falls on her wrists. Busting up TPE. or worse. Always have to think of mishaps.
The finger fix I did for my lady are more like stiff rubber, than wires. They're wires, but moving them around, you'd think they were not. She could smack me up side the head a hundred times, and her fingers should not break. They've been mangled every which way and are holding up. The trade off is grip. Grip is wimpy!
Takes me a while to get her to hold light items
Was going to add a thin layer of TPE where the wires come out of the tube, for some cushion, but it's a very tight spot. Could do it, would just make her wrist bulge some. I did not want that.
It is amazing to see how different these dolls are all made. Subtle differences!

[FloatingInSpace]

The finger fix I did for my lady are more like stiff rubber, than wires. They're wires, but moving them around, you'd think they were not. She could smack me up side the head a hundred times, and her fingers should not break. They've been mangled every which way and are holding up.

Could your fix work on a silicone doll?

Would capping the tips of the finger / toe wires in soft rubber reduce the tendency to poke through?

[RGC_0767]

The finger fix I did for my lady are more like stiff rubber, than wires. They're wires, but moving them around, you'd think they were not. She could smack me up side the head a hundred times, and her fingers should not break. They've been mangled every which way and are holding up.

Could your fix work on a silicone doll?

Would capping the tips of the finger / toe wires in soft rubber reduce the tendency to poke through?

Could use silicone on tips.
I used shrink tubing over wires. Anything that creates a buffer between finger tips and skin would work.
I'm not certain but, silicone lady's fingers are probably not a lot different. silicone owners will have to chime in to confirm
Reasons for wire poke through is factory wires are insanely sharp at tips. Sharp when they break elsewhere too. My lady busted in mid palm. Sharp!

[b33]

b33, it makes me sad to read about this problem. Your doll is so beautiful.

Dr Dollinger, thank you for your helpful informations.

The following makes it clear that there are two different skeletons:

...After the doll was produced, Isaac from Sexysexdoll.com (SSD) told me that she has only the wired wrist and asked me if that's gonna be a problem for me.
YES! Absolutely!
So, with really great support of Isaac again I got the 161E with ball-joint wrist. ...

This sounds like 6Ye still produces non Premium dolls with old skeleton. (from there homepage https://www.6yedollglobal.com/):

6YE Premium ONLY supplies our Premium products (6Ye Premium sexy real sex dolls) to our authorised overseas reseller listing here. All products being sold by other channels are either scam dolls or the old version (old skeleton, old TPE formula, old vagina & anus design).

This are the features of the 164D Premium (https://www.6yedollglobal.com/164cm-d-cup-premium1.html):

Ball-joint skeleton
Ball-joint wrist
Ball-joint shrug shoulder
Enhanced finger-wire tip design
Ball-joint neck
​Realistic Vagina and Anus hole
Quick Head Connector 2nd Gen

Now I have a simple question: Is the new doll from b33 a 6Ye Premium?
@b33: Does your doll have shrugging shoulders and the 2nd gen head connector?

Yes mine is supposed to be a premium she does in fact have shrugging shoulders they do shrug and she does have the second gen neck connector which was not put together correctly there's an O-ring that supposed to go on it so that the neck doesn't swing around all loose and it did not include that O-ring so I had to go find one and it works fine. There were a ton of little tiny mistakes and this is my first doll so so I was probably a little too excited and didn't really pay attention until it was too late beause if I had to do this over again and I saw all the mistakes they made on this doll I would definitely ask for replacement. The ball joint wrist were one of the main reasons why I want with his manufacturer I thought all the little mistakes were just because it was made in China like not all the joints were the same tightness the thing with the neck connector. I mean there's a ton of really great things about this doll and you know sometime in the future you know if I get another one I would like to consider 6ye but at this point unless they fix some stuff it's not going to happen. So it would be really nice if 6ye would respond to this I think I'm owed something, like an explanation atleast.

[Danielk]

The Hands of the 6ey are really crap.. i wrecked both hands of my 165n.. i have to cut the sharp wires pointing out of the fingers with pincers because they cut through the finger.. i dont care about wires in this doll actually because the soft fingers are nicer to grab when i use her as my boob pillow in my bed..

[FloatingInSpace]

Could use silicone on tips.
I used shrink tubing over wires. Anything that creates a buffer between finger tips and skin would work.
I'm not certain but, silicone lady's fingers are probably not a lot different. silicone owners will have to chime in to confirm
Reasons for wire poke through is factory wires are insanely sharp at tips. Sharp when they break elsewhere too. My lady busted in mid palm. Sharp!

Sharp is no joke. It's almost as if they intentionally leave them this way so you damage the doll and buy a new one!

The shrink wrap idea sounds solid.

[Thndrrbolt]

A couple of years ago I made suggestions on this forum for the manufacturers to encase not only the finger wires, but also the too-sharp edges of the joints in a durable fabric like Kevlar to reduce the likelihood of these items poking through the TPE.
I was told that it simply couldn’t be done. No explanation.
T’Bolt

[RGC_0767]

b33, it makes me sad to read about this problem. Your doll is so beautiful.

Dr Dollinger, thank you for your helpful informations.

The following makes it clear that there are two different skeletons:

...After the doll was produced, Isaac from Sexysexdoll.com (SSD) told me that she has only the wired wrist and asked me if that's gonna be a problem for me.
YES! Absolutely!
So, with really great support of Isaac again I got the 161E with ball-joint wrist. ...

This sounds like 6Ye still produces non Premium dolls with old skeleton. (from there homepage https://www.6yedollglobal.com/):

6YE Premium ONLY supplies our Premium products (6Ye Premium sexy real sex dolls) to our authorised overseas reseller listing here. All products being sold by other channels are either scam dolls or the old version (old skeleton, old TPE formula, old vagina & anus design).

This are the features of the 164D Premium (https://www.6yedollglobal.com/164cm-d-cup-premium1.html):

Ball-joint skeleton
Ball-joint wrist
Ball-joint shrug shoulder
Enhanced finger-wire tip design
Ball-joint neck
​Realistic Vagina and Anus hole
Quick Head Connector 2nd Gen

Now I have a simple question: Is the new doll from b33 a 6Ye Premium?
@b33: Does your doll have shrugging shoulders and the 2nd gen head connector?

Yes mine is supposed to be a premium she does in fact have shrugging shoulders they do shrug and she does have the second gen neck connector which was not put together correctly there's an O-ring that supposed to go on it so that the neck doesn't swing around all loose and it did not include that O-ring so I had to go find one and it works fine. There were a ton of little tiny mistakes and this is my first doll so so I was probably a little too excited and didn't really pay attention until it was too late beause if I had to do this over again and I saw all the mistakes they made on this doll I would definitely ask for replacement. The ball joint wrist were one of the main reasons why I want with his manufacturer I thought all the little mistakes were just because it was made in China like not all the joints were the same tightness the thing with the neck connector. I mean there's a ton of really great things about this doll and you know sometime in the future you know if I get another one I would like to consider 6ye but at this point unless they fix some stuff it's not going to happen. So it would be really nice if 6ye would respond to this I think I'm owed something, like an explanation atleast.

Seems like they were in a hurry to get it out the door. I've read in a post here the employee turnover at these factories is high. Crummy job?
Quite possibly. They do not show factory photos of the molding areas. Just the ladies doing make up, etc.

[RGC_0767]

A couple of years ago I made suggestions on this forum for the manufacturers to encase not only the finger wires, but also the too-sharp edges of the joints in a durable fabric like Kevlar to reduce the likelihood of these items poking through the TPE.
I was told that it simply couldn’t be done. No explanation.
T’Bolt

I tried putting a homemade TPE paste to fabric. I thought it would stick. It didn't. I may try cheesecloth, it may have more bite.
It sticks to string.
Just messing around, made a TPE finger bone with a home made paste. Just wrapped a plastic coated wire with ordinary string, and brushed on the paste.
(Coated wire with a light brushing of paste, wrapped string, then layered the paste to it. it feels like a worm, looks like one too. Too much time on my hands, YeP!

Finger-worm.jpg

[Dollyman25442]

The bottom line is 6ye needs to chime in an say why the $%^! their site states ball joint it is not!
We have a thread under BCD about the 164 D cup.
Obviously there is no way fir me to have a sample of every doll, but my 164d was a return and I am going to keep her that is how awesome she is.
BCD

I hope the manufacturer is reading this Jeff.
I was planning on obtaining through you a 166 A, but after reading this thread, I've decided against this purchase (and you KNOW I'm a multiple doll purchaser) until I have ABSOLUTE assurance (in writing from both the re-seller AND the manufacturer) , as well as a %100 return guarantee that this model would have the ball joint wrists.
I have had to endure the manufacturers shenanigans with poor product before (and while Jeff saved the day last time where my original approved vendor totally screwed the pooch), as an informed consumer I'm not gonna suffer that bullshit again.
6YE ya just fucked up with me. Watch the sale go right down the drain.

[flying42]

This topic is currently alive on several fronts, with many creative ideas and extremely gifted repair advice for hands and wrists. Here is a recent find of articulation that sells for thirty bucks. If these parts could be scanned and 3D printed more durably, or the assembly used as a mechanical model for scaling, then it could be retrofitted to implant if the fingers were made more slender and with stronger hinges. Cheers!

[b33]

So in my opinion I think the whole hand situation with these dolls is flawed. I don't see why the manufacturers can't do with the hands and or feet what they do with the heads which is put a socket at the end of the forearm and allow the customer to purchase different hands and or feet depending on how much they want to spend or the style of they like. I'll bet there's people that would pay quite a bit of money for some hands that were made out of a more durable material and actually had a skeleton inside and they were better gripping and more realistic looking it would be great for photos, you know you can have a set of cheap hands that came with the doll and then I said a nice ones that you put on there for photos and then maybe another set that use so that they don't get mangled when you're sleeping with her.

[RGC_0767]

So in my opinion I think the whole hand situation with these dolls is flawed. I don't see why the manufacturers can't do with the hands and or feet what they do with the heads which is put a socket at the end of the forearm and allow the customer to purchase different hands and or feet depending on how much they want to spend or the style of they like. I'll bet there's people that would pay quite a bit of money for some hands that were made out of a more durable material and actually had a skeleton inside and they were better gripping and more realistic looking it would be great for photos, you know you can have a set of cheap hands that came with the doll and then I said a nice ones that you put on there for photos and then maybe another set that use so that they don't get mangled when you're sleeping with her.

They enjoy hearing people bitch. But doing things better or correct costs money. Just let the owner deal with it. That's been the solution. It's working for them

[6YeDoll]

Ball joint wrist is actually not ready yet for 164D. We need to remake the mold of the hands and wrists in order to fit the palm plate, this process takes time. I think it's a miscommunication between our website agency and us. Last time we had meeting about the progress of the ball-joint wrist, that's why our website agency misunderstood that the ball-joint wrists were ready at that time. We have already informed our website agency to revise the wrong infomation.

We apologise for this issue. For the affected customers, please send us an email to info@6yedollglobal.com with your name, reseller name , order details and the order date. We will verify and compensate accordingly.

[Dollyman25442]

Ball joint wrist is actually not ready yet for 164D. We need to remake the mold of the hands and wrists in order to fit the palm plate, this process takes time. I think it's a miscommunication between our website agency and us. Last time we had meeting about the progress of the ball-joint wrist, that's why our website agency misunderstood that the ball-joint wrists were ready at that time. We have already informed our website agency to revise the wrong infomation.

We apologise for this issue. For the affected customers, please send us an email to info@6yedollglobal.com with your name, reseller name , order details and the order date. We will verify and compensate accordingly.

"Compensate"?
That's not a solution to false advertising. Replacement or return/refund would be the appropriate solution. Weak customer support.
See earlier post from me-this incident has LOST MY BUSINESS. Some other manufacturer will be getting my money (my third doll). As consumers, this appears the ONLY way we seem to get manufacturer's attention. We simply won't buy your products.