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Clarity of Q+A regarding whether something is or is not good for this or that is driving me CRAZY on this forum, I've got to say, WE CAN DO BETTER, yes? Would someone please take a sample or samples of TPE or whatever and apply some science to compare the effects of A+B if there is a repair or otherwise random sample of material available, maybe to be destructively tested for degradation after an interval? I am seriously intrigued at the idea myself of the feasibility of coconut rather than mineral oil. But if the mineral oil (which is also in some foods such as gummy bears) is food grade, it should be fine in small quantities. I don't think I've seen it for sale at retail, only medical grade, which is available at different viscosities, and I wouldn't eat that. What is that wonderful edible lubricant I've seen pornstars use? Anyone know if it is for sale in bulk or just homemade goop? If that is shelf stable... :idea: The one I tried once made me violently ill for a short time, so I would really like to find a safe one, since we're talking turkey here. So if anyone can run a test, I'm fresh out. Thanks and Cheers!
Since LuAnnes little rub down of coconut oil, I've not heard a complaint. :) She is sticky now. Normal? sure. The only regret I have is in the beginning.
I had her a month before giving her any sort of oil treatment. Yes, the honeymoon stage was quite intense. Not every night, but was a few times a week, and I did not replenish oils down there, and she dried up around her lady parts. Was quite fussy with clean ups too.
It's all a learning curve. Any new owner will make mistakes. But they so damn sexy, we overlook things in the beginning.
Her neck was quite creaky.. I have some food grade penetrating oil (fluid film) I shot down her neck as best I could. No more creak at all!!!
The stuff is 15 bucks (30 on Amazon) for an aerosol can. Made from wool wax they claim. It worked anyway. And worked well.

As it is said, nothing done in moderation will hurt you. Or the people, places and things you love :)

Just keep that Gawd damn XYLENE away from her!!....... coconuts ain't as nuts as that shit!!

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I am very Thankful for this Topic! I use coconut oil daily, and wondered if it would be better than Baby oil. Talc (johnson&johnson) + Baby oil are not popular with Conspiracy theorists like myself (possible cancer causing). My doll is TPE, new "virgin", about this have his first sponge bath (mild soap) + Burts bees wax brand Baby oil, much later a dusting of Bobs Red Mill corn starch (right?).
I am organic, yet I understand TPE is not! Is there a general guide on how to care for TPE in general, as a substance? I feel if I understood the material better, I could predict outcomes of certain products.
What are good Brands of Mineral Oil?
My Doll is "ART" a Former Model ~ He does not like to talk about it ;-)
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Idollatry7 wrote:I am very Thankful for this Topic! I use coconut oil daily, and wondered if it would be better than Baby oil. Talc (johnson&johnson) + Baby oil are not popular with Conspiracy theorists like myself (possible cancer causing). My doll is TPE, new "virgin", about this have his first sponge bath (mild soap) + Burts bees wax brand Baby oil, much later a dusting of Bobs Red Mill corn starch (right?).
I am organic, yet I understand TPE is not! Is there a general guide on how to care for TPE in general, as a substance? I feel if I understood the material better, I could predict outcomes of certain products.
What are good Brands of Mineral Oil?
My Doll is "ART" a Former Model ~ He does not like to talk about it ;-)
Purchased from DollForum.com seller "Tootsie"
Your doll looks like a school teacher I used to have. When I used to goof off in class, he'd make me run laps around the school yard. Meh!! got me out of class and was able to blow off steam :) His hair was longer to his shoulders. But the eyes!!! those eyes made me think of Mr. Newman. He drove a Porsche too

I had forgotten why I bought coconut oil. But remember now. Dry skin. On my face. did not work. :)
Soapy bath, mineral oil, corn starch, seems to be the standard care tip on TDF.
Alternatives? probably are some.
Have to look after ourselves, going a healthy route, besides harsher chemicals is smart!!

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Hi RGC!
I appreciate you see your Porsche driving teacher, lol. There is a rumor, they used 'Brad Pitt' for the face. With his current wig (mine), he looks like Jim Morrison. I am waiting on his wig, from the mail. "Soapy bath, mineral oil, corn starch"
I was just about to begin the bathing 'proceedure'... and checked back here to make sure I had the order correct. Thank you! It took me a while and some research to figure out how to get him to sit up! 120lb doll problems, a Delicate Gorilla.
RE:Coconut Oil for Humans; Actually explodes any 'yeast' / candida cells, on contact. Basically an anti-bacterial Rambo, with a silky soft side.
Food Grade, expeller pressed, organic.
Enjoy!

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Idollatry7 wrote:Hi RGC!
I appreciate you see your Porsche driving teacher, lol. There is a rumor, they used 'Brad Pitt' for the face. With his current wig (mine), he looks like Jim Morrison. I am waiting on his wig, from the mail. "Soapy bath, mineral oil, corn starch"
I was just about to begin the bathing 'proceedure'... and checked back here to make sure I had the order correct. Thank you! It took me a while and some research to figure out how to get him to sit up! 120lb doll problems, a Delicate Gorilla.
RE:Coconut Oil for Humans; Actually explodes any 'yeast' / candida cells, on contact. Basically an anti-bacterial Rambo, with a silky soft side.
Food Grade, expeller pressed, organic.
Enjoy!
There ya go!! You can create a Lizard King doll!! I think Jim had grey eyes. Hard to tell with his acid trip eyes :) You mention Brad Pitt, yeah I see it now LOL...
Coconut oil I do put in my hair (what's left of it) it is good for that :)

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Idollatry7 wrote:<snip> My doll is TPE, new "virgin", about this have his first sponge bath (mild soap) + Burts bees wax brand Baby oil, much later a dusting of Bobs Red Mill corn starch (right?).
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What are good Brands of Mineral Oil?
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When we are talking about baby oil on TDF, we usually mean mineral oil based baby oil, like Johnsons baby oil. However every mineral oil based baby oil should be fine. Just check the incredients. However your Burts bees wax brand Baby oil doesn't contain mineral oil. It is based on plant oils. Use it at your own risk. (I wouldn't use it ...)

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About the OT:
The following is just theoretical guess work mixed with scientific facts from me.
TPE looses mineral oil over time. We oil our dolls to replenish the lost oil. Mineral oil is liquid at room temperature. The melting point of mineral oil is at approximately -24°C.
However coconut oil has a melting point of +24°C. Which means it will get solid if room temperature falls below +24°C. I doubt, that it is good for a doll, if the oil gets solid in the pores.
It may however work in a warm climate.

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hentai_11 wrote:About the OT:
The following is just theoretical guess work mixed with scientific facts from me.
TPE looses mineral oil over time. We oil our dolls to replenish the lost oil. Mineral oil is liquid at room temperature. The melting point of mineral oil is at approximately -24°C.
However coconut oil has a melting point of +24°C. Which means it will get solid if room temperature falls below +24°C. I doubt, that it is good for a doll, if the oil gets solid in the pores.
It may however work in a warm climate.
My little trial of coconut oil she looks ok. The stuff I have is pretty runny at room temps. In the fridge it solidifies of course. I did not use very much of it to spread on her whole front.
Thing I don't like about dolls is the sticky skin after any oil treatment, and the powdering that's needed. I do not like dust LOL. Seem to need a whole lot to get her smooth :(
A buddy of mine always says: "don't worry buddy, everything is under control" yep!!

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I will give the young lady who wrote this article an "A"
(I just copied and pasted the text) here is the link: http://www.chemistryislife.com/the-chemistry-of-coconut


The Chemistry of Coconut Oil
Introduction
YouTube Video


Coconut oil is the oil extracted from the kernel or meat of the coconut. It serves many uses from culinary and nutrition to hair and beauty. I chose coconut oil for my chemistry project because I'm fascinated with the wide variety of functions this product provides. Life is affected by coconut oil because it is a natural occurring substance from the earth that is used by a large majority of the population.

Composition of ...

Saturated fatty acids

Lauric acid: C12H24O2 (45%-52%)

Myristic acid: C14H28O2 (16%-21%)

Caprylic acid: C8H16O2 (5%-10%)

Capric acid: C10H20O2 (4%-8%)

Caproic acid: C6H12O2 (0.5%-1%)

Palmitic acid: C16H32O2 (7%-10%)

Stearic acid: C16H36O2 (2%-4%)

Unsaturated fatty acids

Oleic acid: C18H34O2 (5%-8%)

Linoleic acid: C18H32O2 (1%-3%)

Linolenic acid: C18H30O2 (0-0.2%)

Vitamins

Vitamin E: C18H30O2

Vitamin K: C31H46O2


Main Chemicals, Compounds, Components

Lauric Acid

C12H24O2

Also known as dodecanoic acid

Saturated, medium-chain fatty acid with 12 carbon backbone

Found naturally in both plant and animal fats as well as oils

Most commonly found in coconut oil

Physical properties are powdery, white, and solid with slight odor

Acidity of 5.3

Used as a flavoring agent in many household products

Also a main component in insecticides or herbicides

Serves as a surface active agent in manufacturing

Use in cleaning products and furniture care

Myristic acid

C14H28O2

Also known as tetradecanoic acid

Saturated, medium-chain fatty acid with 14 carbon backbone

Occurs naturally in most animal and vegetable fats

Most commonly found in nutmeg

Physical properties are oily, white, crystalline solid

Used to synthesize flavor in some soaps and cosmetics

Also makes up chemicals in many adhesives and sealants

Arts and crafts materials and personal care products

Component in non-pesticidal agricultural chemicals

Works as a surface agent as well as a lubricant in manufacturing


Chemistry's Role

The two main components of coconut oil, which are lauric acid and myristic acid, are naturally occurring in plant and animal fats. Coconut oil, the final product, is produced as either refined or virgin coconut oil. The process of making refined coconut oil begins with the dried kernel of the coconut. Because the unrefined oil that is extracted is not suitable for consumption due to the unsanitary drying methods, it must first be purified. The oil is filtered through clays that bleach and remove impurities in the substance. High heat is used to deodorize the coconut oil, and sodium hydroxide (NaOH) removes extra fatty acids and prolongs the shelf life. RBD coconut oil is typically the end result, this stands for refined, bleached, and deodorized. This type of coconut oil is also sometimes hydrogenated or partially hydrogenated depending on where it is manufactured. Modern methods use chemical solvents to extract all of the oil from the kernel for easier production. Virgin coconut oil starts with fresh coconut meat and no chemicals or high heat is used to further refine the oil. Instead, it undergoes one of two processes including quick drying, which is pressing the coconut using a machine, or wet-milling, where the fresh coconut milk is separated from water through different means such as boiling, refrigerating, fermenting, or through enzyme and mechanical centrifuge.

Background Research

Coconut oil, also called copra oil, was originally used in India before there was electricity to burn in lamps. The oil was extracted from the kernel of the coconut through traditional extraction processes that are essentially the same as today's methods of producing unrefined coconut oil. There is a high saturated fat content within coconut oil which is an unhealthy fat, although coconut oil itself is considered a healthy substitute to most other oils and fats. This product has slow rancidification and resists going bad for up to six months. Virgin, or unrefined coconut oil is extracted through either “wet” or “dry’ processes that do not alter the chemical state of the coconut, but refined coconut is processed further. The refined oil has no coconut taste or smell and is used for cooking, cosmetics, and pharmaceutical purposes. It’s Called RBD coconut oil for “refined, bleached, and deodorized”. Coconut oil can be used to power generators and diesel engines. It has a high gelling temperature, a high viscosity, and can be transesterified. Additional functions of coconut oil include engine lubricant or transformer oil, herbicides, moisturizer, cooking oil, and hair supplement.


Resources

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coconut_oil

Background information

Processes of producing coconut oil

Expensive possibilities and uses

https://www.organicfacts.net/health-ben ... t-oil.html

Physical and chemical properties of coconut oil

Medical and nutritional information

http://www.healthy-oil-planet.com/histo ... t-oil.html

History and timeline of the origin of coconut oil

Nutritional benefits and information

http://www.mdpi.com/1420-3049/14/12/5144

Chemical composition of coconuts and coconut oil

Biological properties of coconut

http://healthyeating.sfgate.com/refined ... -2296.html

Nutrients of coconut oil

Distinction of refined and unrefined oils

http://www.livestrong.com/article/33866 ... gredients/

Ingredients in coconut oil

Main components and their compositions

https://pubchem.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/compou ... ection=Top

Lauric acid research and information

Chemical composition and uses of lauric acid

https://pubchem.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/compou ... ection=Top

Myristic acid research and information

Chemical composition and uses of myristic acid


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hentai_11 Thank You!! I will be replacing my baby oil immediately!
Great point, about "melting Points" too!
Very Helpful!

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Wow, great responses and researching the data...hope everyone had a happy 420! I'm still in recovery. 8)
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