Starpery.com

Making your doll smile - fake teeth on a budget, sized right

Got an idea? Need an invention?
Post Reply
User avatar
JunkGuy
Doll Advisor
Doll Advisor
Posts: 924
Joined: Sat Sep 03, 2016 10:16 pm
Contact:

Making your doll smile - fake teeth on a budget, sized right

Post by JunkGuy »

So after seeing's ashleystunner's doll, Ashley, with some removable fake teeth it made me want some teeth for my doll. Of course, my Brie sports a WM Dolls head 74, which is a closed mouth model so she'd never be able to get full sized fake teeth into her mouth without looking goofy.

But given that its Halloween season, it occurred to me that I might be able to use some fake plastic teeth from a party shop which could easily be cut to a desired size. I went to Party City and settled on some 99 cent vampire teeth. I asked if they had "movie star" teeth, but all they had were vampire, which were white and straight like desired, albeit with fangs, and various types of crooked, yellow monster teeth.

After two nights of work this is what I came up with. A leftover piece of the original vampire teeth is next two the teeth I assembled for comparison.
teeth.jpg
teeth.jpg (203.36 KiB) Viewed 4801 times
I've made two rows of teeth by cutting out portions of the vampire teeth from the upper and lower "jaw" between the fangs. One row has four teeth and is 1 and 1/8 inch long by 5/16 inch high, the other has three teeth, is about 1 inch long and about 9/32 inch tall. I fit the teeth into her mouth over and over, trimming off a little bit at a time until I had them sized down well enough. If you want to repeat my process, please do the same. You may wish for wider, thinner, taller, or shorter teeth than I did. Plus the vampire teeth originals are dirt cheap right now so if you do mess it up you're not out much. I'm even planning to go get another set or two so I can play around with making angled rows, so she can be smiling on one side the mouth.

For head #74, only one row can really fit in her mouth at one time and I'll use the two interchangeably. The four tooth version is definitely better for frontal photos where balance is required, but the three teeth one could be better for angled shots. Some heads that already have a partially open mouth may be able to fit two rows. If you go this way, you should superglue the top and bottom rows together. They are held in place by the force of the mouth's TPE - they won't just stick there on their own.

Once I had them sized right, I applied some white DAP Alex Ultra 230 elastomeric latex caulk into the gap between the front edge of the teeth and the back edge and allowed it to harden overnight Thursday and while I was at work during the day Friday. These vampire teeth are designed to fit over children's teeth, so they are quite thin and hollow between front and back. Adding caulk gives it a little more volume and rigidity - I think it will make the teeth less prone to bending or getting twisted out of shape while in her mouth and may also prevent the teeth from cutting into the roof of the mouth or tongue since the plastic did seem thin enough to do it if left in there long enough. In the comparison photo above you can get an idea of how thin the plastic is alone and how it might dig into the TPE.

After the caulk hardened enough I used a small hobby brush and applied a watered down coating of some old yellowish-tan water-based hobby paint. I then wiped off the paint using a paper towel so it would build up a little thicker in the crevasses between teeth but be relatively absent on the faces. I then lightly drybrushed the same paint over the faces to dinge them down from the bright white plastic color to a more human like tone. I let this sit for about 15-20 minutes to fully dry.

For the final step I applied some Minwax Clear Satin fast-drying polyurethane spray sealant to give them a pearly sheen like real teeth. Plus it'll keep my always dirty fingers from rubbing off the paint. I applied four coats, each about 20-30 minutes apart then allowed to dry overnight. Depending how much is sprayed on with each coat, it could take more coats until the desired sheen is acquired. (They really don't shine that much, but with 4 coats I got reflectivity back to about where the original white vampire teeth were.)


I only had to purchase the fake plastic teeth (I already had the caulk, paint, brush, and polyurethane) so it only cost me a little over a dollar and the requisite investment of time. With none of these items already in hand, someone else could do the same for only about $15 (the polyurethane spray alone comprising half that price.) I think they turned out quite well for the price.
brie_with_teeth_1.jpg
brie_with_teeth_1.jpg (235.65 KiB) Viewed 4801 times
brie_with_teeth_2.jpg
brie_with_teeth_2.jpg (174.9 KiB) Viewed 4801 times

User avatar
rubherkitty
Doll Oracle
Doll Oracle
Posts: 8966
Joined: Sat Aug 25, 2012 5:24 pm
Location: Interstate 44 with 10 long-haired Friends a' Jesus In a chartreuse micra-bus
Contact:

Re: Making your doll smile - fake teeth on a budget, sized r

Post by rubherkitty »

They look great!
Thanks for posting the How To as well!

RK :thumbs_up:
Going downtown. Gonna see my gal. Gonna sing her a song. I'm gonna show her my ding dong! C&C

User avatar
TTNLBTPD
Doll Mentor
Doll Mentor
Posts: 1016
Joined: Tue Sep 08, 2015 12:11 am
Contact:

Re: Making your doll smile - fake teeth on a budget, sized r

Post by TTNLBTPD »

Good job. They look like they were there all along. May want to clean her glasses though.
Tough Times Never Last But Tough People Do!

User avatar
nogamenolife
Doll Advisor
Doll Advisor
Posts: 570
Joined: Fri May 27, 2016 7:07 am
Contact:

Re: Making your doll smile - fake teeth on a budget, sized r

Post by nogamenolife »

Great idea. Might try this out myself

ashleystunner
Active Member
Active Member
Posts: 152
Joined: Thu Sep 29, 2016 10:12 am
Contact:

Re: Making your doll smile - fake teeth on a budget, sized r

Post by ashleystunner »

Thanks for the mention junkguy. Your teeth look great! Nice job. I don't know if they look better in or out, but they give her a great new look! To me she looks a little like taylor swift.

User avatar
1 doll bill
Active Poster
Active Poster
Posts: 80
Joined: Tue Sep 22, 2015 5:42 pm
Location: AZ
Contact:

Re: Making your doll smile - fake teeth on a budget, sized r

Post by 1 doll bill »

Vampire teeth I was afraid she'd bite her lip, but wow! Way to take it to the next level. Kudos!
Evidence for the trial
My last crush was my last crush.
No it wasn't!
1db

User avatar
hollows+fentiman
Doll Oracle
Doll Oracle
Posts: 8640
Joined: Sat Jul 02, 2016 4:13 pm
Location: UK
Contact:

Re: Making your doll smile - fake teeth on a budget, sized r

Post by hollows+fentiman »

Good post JunkGuy! Along with ashleystunner's post thes could start all sorts of new photo shoots with is it better in or out.........teeth I mean!
Ashaki Sanura's Family Adventures (WM168 Nava) viewtopic.php?f=11&t=77571

Tanice & Jacey WM168A (Lovedolls Grace Williams & #64 heads)
Vivette 153 Vivid Doll
Rosheen WM 156B
Tarni Kimber Doll
Rusty Firedoll 166
Chiyoko 6YE 170
Reema Piperdoll 162
ETesse PIB Spinner 2.0 silicone
Yi nu de & Yong DS100
Many Phicen, Jiaou, LD, Barbie and Ken Dolls!

User avatar
JunkGuy
Doll Advisor
Doll Advisor
Posts: 924
Joined: Sat Sep 03, 2016 10:16 pm
Contact:

Re: Making your doll smile - fake teeth on a budget, sized r

Post by JunkGuy »

Was at Home Depot yesterday and saw that the Minwax Polyurethane spray comes in Satin, Semi-gloss, and Clear Gloss. I now recommended the semi-gloss or clear gloss sprays instead. I only used Satin because its what I had available leftover from painting a birdbath, which does a fine job for protection but isn't shiny like human teeth.

ashleystunner
Active Member
Active Member
Posts: 152
Joined: Thu Sep 29, 2016 10:12 am
Contact:

Re: Making your doll smile - fake teeth on a budget, sized r

Post by ashleystunner »

Hey junkguy. I looked at some of your other threads of your girl. I gotta say i love the teeth. They are not overpowering at all. Not very noticeable to people who aren't looking. I see them and i love them.

manobon
Doll Mentor
Doll Mentor
Posts: 1057
Joined: Mon May 25, 2015 2:34 pm
Contact:

Re: Making your doll smile - fake teeth on a budget, sized r

Post by manobon »

Are the DAP Alex Plus acrylic latex plus silicone caulks safe to interact with TPE for prolonged periods of time? (Or would it be like a potential TPE and Platinum Silicone reaction?)

Also, if it Is safe, is Super Glue safe to attach such teeth to TPE? I had a couple of plastic vampire teeth things for halloween (I think maybe the exact same), and am thinking about adding them to a doll.

User avatar
justintime
Doll Patriarch
Doll Patriarch
Posts: 4383
Joined: Thu Mar 10, 2016 8:19 pm
Location: Exploring the Blue Planet from 100M down
Contact:

Re: Making your doll smile - fake teeth on a budget, sized r

Post by justintime »

Very cool, thank you for sharing.
It's fun to see what members come up with.
“Put … the Doll … down … and slowly back away.”
Shelby My Piece Of Heaven
Shelby Model Information

samara78
Doll Visionary
Doll Visionary
Posts: 12990
Joined: Mon Apr 21, 2014 1:32 am

Re: Making your doll smile - fake teeth on a budget, sized r

Post by samara78 »

manobon wrote:Are the DAP Alex Plus acrylic latex plus silicone caulks safe to interact with TPE for prolonged periods of time? (Or would it be like a potential TPE and Platinum Silicone reaction?)

Also, if it Is safe, is Super Glue safe to attach such teeth to TPE? I had a couple of plastic vampire teeth things for halloween (I think maybe the exact same), and am thinking about adding them to a doll.
As long as it isn't 2 part you can use it no problem.
The empty orchestra still plays.
Bored, certified "plastic" surgeon. Serving the masses.
Dolls i have worked on. Real doll ,JM doll,teddybabes,Anime fabric doll,wm doll, d.s dolls, Diao shi, extravaganza air dolls, 1st pc, and candy8teen dolls.

Need work done? Feel free to send me a note.

manobon
Doll Mentor
Doll Mentor
Posts: 1057
Joined: Mon May 25, 2015 2:34 pm
Contact:

Re: Making your doll smile - fake teeth on a budget, sized r

Post by manobon »

samara78 wrote:
manobon wrote:Are the DAP Alex Plus acrylic latex plus silicone caulks safe to interact with TPE for prolonged periods of time? (Or would it be like a potential TPE and Platinum Silicone reaction?)

Also, if it Is safe, is Super Glue safe to attach such teeth to TPE? I had a couple of plastic vampire teeth things for halloween (I think maybe the exact same), and am thinking about adding them to a doll.
As long as it isn't 2 part you can use it no problem.
Thanks for the response, but did you mean, as long as the acrylic/silicone caulk is Not 2 Parts (the ones you have to mix from separate tubes), for the teeth interacting with the TPE? Or the Super Glue interacting with the TPE? Or both?

ashleystunner
Active Member
Active Member
Posts: 152
Joined: Thu Sep 29, 2016 10:12 am
Contact:

Re: Making your doll smile - fake teeth on a budget, sized r

Post by ashleystunner »

If your doll has a mouth that can open you shouldn't need any glue at all. Once you position them in her mouth they will stay put untill you take them out.

Post Reply

INFORMATIONS