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Re: Starting a code project to make my doll speak

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I've that exact speaker, and had pretty much same idea (well putting it in her mouth and bluetooth playing porn). But unfortunately these 'oral heads' are not really that capable of oral...Unless you do not mind extreme face deformation. When you put that thing in, she looks like a dolphin or some ;) At least mine did. Even with just the first few mm's in her mouth.
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Re: Starting a code project to make my doll speak

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thanks avante! I guess I will just hang it on her neck. No biggie.

The program is coming nicely. Made some progress with the code and UI. I never made a mobile program before except for filemaker go. So please be a little patient with me. I hope a first version can be done by the end of this month. Probably no f-mode in it, but we will see...
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If you decide to go the always-online route, realize that the amount of people that will buy your software will be lessened. If you must go always-online then be sure to route all traffic through servers that you control so that all requests made to those APIs are done by you directly and not your customers. Many people do not like the idea of Amazon/Google/etc freely collecting data on them. By routing all of their traffic through your servers and making the requests on their behalf you end up somewhat hiding their identity from "big brother": this is something you could market as a feature. Then YOU can start mining that data instead to find better ways to improve the experience for your customers. If you know what you're doing then you may have a desired product in 6-12 months worthy of a $10-$100 a month subscription. Good luck in your efforts.

P.S. When I say "servers that you control" I mean it in the full sense of the phrase. Buy, rent some space, and set up, and configure some servers in a data center; do not rent hardware from a company. You should be the only person that has access to those machines and the back-end infrastructure of your application. Using azure, aws, etc is NOT a acceptable if you want to completely protect your customers. Many novices will claim it's okay, but it's more expensive to run and you don't own anything in those environments.

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Re: Starting a code project to make my doll speak

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Well, if you want a voice recognition chatbot to go from your smart phone/tablet to a blue tooth speaker (stuck into a doll), that isn't too outlandish.

However, tying that into an app with a talking Avatar, and then getting both sound and animation to an animatronic head can take some doing.

I would start here just to get a feel for what's around: https://www.reallusion.com/crazytalk/default.html

I'm interested in using iClone, another reallusion product, for a related exploration.

Try thinking of this as a pipeline, with multiple creative products, feeding in to create an android doll. Nothing goes to waste and each product can be used as a stand alone.

Just saying.
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terran, great to see your advice! Appreciate your expert opinion. I had decided to go fully offline route, because I myself don't want any ip traffic to go to any server. I prefer an app that's fully functional even in a desert. The plus side is it's much easier to program, faster to finish, the down side is the editing of the settings will not be easy. Actually I am thinking more about making pre-packaged profiles for different dolls, like a profile named "wild Cherry", or a profile "college student Chloe"... etc. This way you can just download the whole package, enjoy their very different personalities, and switch to any one immediately.

LDF, yeah, I kinda just want a dumb chatbot, but a highly customizable chatbot. Women too smart never work for me. :wink: I rather let you decide how smart she is by your own editing.
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Re: Starting a code project to make my doll speak

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Holy cow!

http://www.karigirl.com/

Looks like someone has been working on the 'pipeline'!



Eh. it's so, so.
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Nah, those online AI girls are just money diggers. I can get much better talking with the real money diggers there.
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Just a little update for my progress, maybe getting too technical: :lol:

Right now I am using Visual Studio Code with Nativescript plugin. Nativescript is something that run an improved Javascript (typescript) in a better way. So the speed is kinda ok. Most of the UI for the first version is done. I can edit triggers ( words it listens to) and conversations just fine.
Originally I want to use Dexie to support the conversation database, but then it gave me a hard time of installation and configuration. Then I use Lokijs, which is just simple database in the memory. Then I realize I actually don't need a database at all. So I had to make a third change. Now it's just arrays of objects. I think it's the most efficient way to run it.
Right now I am programming the logic: how the conversations run. They are like a very primitive programming language. Have lines, action, parameter and order. Never done things like this before, so need a little more patience please.
The voice recognition and text to speech are surprisingly easy now. Someone has done the hard work for me. So I wouldn't mind just leave it that way. My android test environment cannot use a microphone, so I cannot test it the right way now, but that will be changed soon.

Learn a lot through the process. Thank you Debbie for giving me such a big motive!! See you soon.

Added: Just saw the Api.ai aka dialogflow demo. Now it seems quite doable. I will put Api.ai in my future versions, so you can ask "<dollname>, can you ask AI blah blah blah?", and I will use Api.ai to give you the answer, besides the google. Of course right now the most important thing is to get the first version out.
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Re: Starting a code project to make my doll speak

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Hi, guys. I am very close to release the first build version to this forum. Unfortunately it will be android only, and no F-Mode yet. It's mostly a talking program. Please let me know the issues and problems. Please also be aware that it's the first version, so it's very rough.
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Definitely interested to see what you have so far.

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The first version is out, take a look here:
https://www.dollforum.com/forum/viewtop ... 20&t=97797

Please test it, thank you!
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An update for all. I submit my app to Google but it was suspended. It seems the F-Mode violated their policy here:

https://play.google.com/about/restricte ... t-content/

I told Google that my app have sexual and nudity content, yet it was still suspended. Therefore I cannot risk it more. Hope you can understand.

Therefore I have to remove the F-Mode from my app, because for the next violation my developer account will be terminated. Guys, for the TDF members, this is the latest release of Doll33 with the F-Mode, but it will be also the last one with F-Mode.

You can directly download the app here.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1MKNKLG ... sp=sharing

Just to clarify, The app that I will release in the Google Play will not have F-Mode, it will be a talking app only, and it will have a different name. Therefore, you can actually install both in the same phone.

You can mirror this apk or distribute it anyway you want. Thanks AlexaTilBrook for hosting my last build!
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I'm interested in this too! Do I need to root my phone to install the apk?

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vrlover wrote:I'm interested in this too! Do I need to root my phone to install the apk?
Nope!

Just ensure "Unknown sources" is enabled.
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That's in Settings (in App Drawer) → [Fingerprints and] Security → Unknown sources

Check that box (or slide the switch ON), tap "ALLOW" in the resulting dialog box...
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And then download Doll33-release.apk, open it and install it! (Just make sure no apps that can draw over other apps [like screen dimmers, Facebook Messenger, etc.], are enabled to install it.)
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Re: Starting a code project to make my doll speak

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I just downloaded your app and will give it a try. I hope you are onto something, as all the ones I've tried are lacking in many areas. Maybe we need to make our own. I have programmed many chatbots including Verbot, Personality Forge, Kari4Pro, Harmony, and even Voice Attack. Of these, I like Kari for use in my doll, because she has a sweet voice, says exactly what I program her to say, but unfortunately is dumb as a bag of rocks when you leave her limited areas of knowledge. Having said that, so are all the others, unless Google access is enabled on the ones who can, and then they start sounding like Hal9000. Another thing I like about Kari is that she is free from the cloud and internet. PRIVATE. OFFLINE. That means no one is recording or hacking in. I'll take the "dumber but more private" trade-off any day for my sexbot.
Another issue is Voice Recognition. Windows sucks at it and tends to G-rate the conversation, turning "fuck" or "suck" into "duck" or "truck." The conversation can go south in a hurry like that. Android does a much better job recognizing and saying profanity.
That "robotic accent" is impossible to get away from when using computer/tablet/phone etc. to reply with non-recorded replies. While some of my chatbots can talk dirty, for sex I have found it better to use sex/moaning tracks like Funloving AJ's literotica tracks. And you absolutely CAN tell where the sound is coming from during sex with your doll. With my TPE dolls, the tadpole speaker Mannequinfan suggested will have to hang from the doll's neck or wig unless the mouth is modified to accommodate. With a Real Doll, however, that speaker will fit IN the doll's mouth quite nicely. That seriously helps with the illusion when she is moaning and begging right in your ear during sex. Your ears absolutely DO know where the sound is coming from when you get that close. No, her mouth is not moving, you'll need an animatronic head for that.
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PS. For use on TPE dolls, I would use that little round one you pictured a few posts up. You could take a hole saw, and cut a hole in the top of the doll's head, slightly smaller diameter than the speaker, and it should stay in place since TPE stretches like crazy and it would be hidden under her wig, but easily accessible to remove and turn on/off. Good luck with your project.

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