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Re: My attempt to rescue a tpe gal destined for disposal!

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You have plenty of doll to learn. :whistle:
The only bad thing in my opinion are the two split fingers because of the too big plastic end caps. But that can be changed as you already have planed. I hope it holds very well.
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Yeah, my fault for not measuring more accurately, they are 5mm so I've ordered some 3.2mm which should be fine. I will revisit those finger tips later to tidy them up, was just in a hurry yesterday.

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Another quick update on hand/finger repairs: I received the 2.5mm stranded copper wire today which actually has an OD of 3mm so it is too thick for the brass tube and I don't want to make the tube any thicker so I'm improvising again! Ok this might just actually work, I know I am back to using copper wire which will eventually break if bent enough but this stuff has about 7 strands as opposed to the existing wire that is twin strands. Plus I'm still going to use a short length of brass tube to anchor the finger 'bone' into the palm plate. The RTV silicone does an excellent job of that. In this pic those bits of brass tube are not going to shift easily from that match box and I have given them a few good tugs! So I'm going to try taking the pvc cover off the bottom bit of the wire and then gluing it into the brass tube. The tube will then be glued into the plate (all with Permatex). I've just made up one 'finger bone' like this and it's topped off with a smaller plastic tip that's a perfect fit, so fingers crossed this 'should' work!
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Thank you for the update.

How about ...
... removing the complete PVC cover
... use brass tube everywhere like in your first operation
... use small pieces of PVC between the brass tubes???? (I don't know if that is a good idea)
... use a plastic tip as small as possible. If it covers only the wires without the PVC or brass tubes it will be smaller than those you have now. Can you use the PVC for that?
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Hi Tsall, yeah it would have been perfect if the wire with its pvc coating had fit inside the tube but the important role of the tube, for me, is to anchor the 'bones' into the palm plate and I can still do that with this set up. Having the tube segments would have simulated articulated fingers but this new wire feels quite robust and I'm trying to keep things as simple as possible. I will try it with my next hand and report back.

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Time to fit new finger wires into Elizabeth's right hand. Liz has a 3 year old YL148 body and when I made a small cut (1") into the palm and exposed the palm plate I could see this was the older design with a single strand copper wire wrapped in string and inserted into a steel coil and then the whole thing is epoxied into the plate. All wires are fitted into the top whereas later designs switched to having thumb and pinkie on either side of the plate. Actually this made the job a little easier plus thanks to a tip from BWheeler1 I was able to remove the epoxy and wire stubs in one piece by levering the epoxy away from the side of the plate and then tugging it out with a pair of pliers. Then it was just a case of squirting some Permatex into the plate and fitting the new wires. It's now setting nicely so I'm keen to see how it looks when the new wires are inserted back into the fingers. If this is ok then it will turn out to be a very cheap fix as the wire was just £1.80 for 3m and the brass tube works out at around £1.40 for a 300mm length. It doesn't need much Permatex, I'm still using a tube I got a couple of years back. Ok in this first pic you can see what was removed and then up to where the wires are glued into the plate.
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Re: My attempt to rescue a tpe gal destined for disposal!

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Looking good Arthur!

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Thanks Mavi, so far this one has gone a lot smoother then the first one I did. It's like anything really, once you've done it a few times it gets a lot easier. I was lucky to find those small plastic caps on eBay as they are a perfect fit and look like they will do the job, it's a pity they can't use something like that in the factory but of course it wouldn't survive the heat of the initial pour into the mold.

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So far so good! The Permatex was pretty firm after about 3 hours so I couldn't wait to see if the wires went into the fingers ok and I'm pleased to say they did and it looks like I got the length just right. As I thought these 3mm plastic tips are perfect so now it's just a case of keeping fingers crossed that this 7 stranded wire can cope with occasional bending without breaking. Of course it's still copper wire so will break with frequent bending but the fingers feel firm now and can hold a pose and also look natural. I'm banking on the addition of brass tube as an anchor for the wire into the plate acting to strengthen the whole thing, time will tell. Ok here's a few pics, I haven't sealed the incision yet in case I have to go back in and I'm guessing Liz has had enough for today judging by the last pic!
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ROFL...yup...she don't look happy...

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Yeah, you would think she would be grateful, she couldn't have given me the v sign before!

I just tried a stress test on a section of the wire I'm using by repeatedly bending it and I got to 97 bends before it gave out so I'm hopeful this stuff will be ok as I won't be doing that to any finger. In comparison the original finger wire snapped after 22 repeated bends.

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Thanks for the update. That looks indeed rather simple but effective.
On thing, the quite hard 90 degree angle of the wire at the thumb can be a weak point. I think it is nearly impossible to bend the bras tubes?
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Hi Tsall, yes I agree, that could be a weak point, Its much like the set up with the original wire which had a steel coil and the wire was then bent at an angle to go into the thumb. It's probably why the thumbs would often break first. The newer palm plate has a hole lower down on the side of the plate so no need to bend the wire. If it does break then it should be fairly easy to go back in and swap out the wire.

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Very nice repairs you make Arthur.
I am restoring a Ordoll, I've made her a new vagina and that still needs some "finetuning".
It is a doll I adopted.
Somebody ruined the vagina that bad I had to create a whole new one.
I can learn a lot from your thread and Mishka ofcourse.
I also want to repair her hands, I already tightend her wrist again, but I couldn't get the wires out of her fingers.
I was afraid to tear the fingers because the wire is melted in the finger.
How did you get those wires out without damaging the fingers?

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Hi there, I know at first when you try pulling on the broken finger wire it feels like it won't come out as the tpe bonds to the string surrounding the wire. There is definitely a knack to this, basically I grip the broken end of the wire with a pair of pliers while holding the finger with my other hand. It will slowly start to come out but has a tendency to turn the finger inside out so you just have to push it back into shape once the wire is out. Tpe is actually quite resilient so can take a bit of stretching, if you apply slow, steady pressure when you are pulling on the wire you will see the tpe peeling off from the string coating. To help the new finger wires slide into place I gave them a very light touch of vaseline, you will really need to get some end tips though otherwise the wire will just push out the side of the finger, I found some on eBay that are perfect for this. Good luck with your restoration.

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