Any video for applying baby oil?

Random Dude · Post by **Random Dude** » Mon Oct 29, 2018 4:04 pm

I purchased an Amor doll with jeff from BCD. While I'm waiting I have been doing a lot of research and am feeling very confident in my maintenance knowledge. But from everything I have read I am still not sure exactly how to apply baby oil. I looked on youtube and pornhub for a demonstration on how to apply baby oil but I haven't found one. Does anyone know of a video on someone demonstrating this? Do I rub it in with hands, apply to sponge or microfiber towel then rub it in? I realize this is probably kind of nickpicking, I just want to get it right. I am more concerned about that first day she arrives and i have to clean her real good. I want to be sure to get all the manufacturing junk out of her. Just want to see it being done if possible. If not I'm sure I'll figure it out. But if anyone knows a video that would be great. Thanks TDF

Nord · Post by **Nord** » Mon Oct 29, 2018 5:32 pm

Lol, it's nothing complicated. Just lay her down on some white towels, put some oil in your hands or on the doll and then rub it all over. Then let it absorb for a couple of hours until it's dry. The material might be quite saturated with oil already from manufacturing, so you shouldn't need much. After about a month you can start applying vaseline and/or Nivea Cream on high stress areas as well. Personally I start off with her laying on her stomach, to rub the back, butt, and thighs, then roll her over with a slightly arched back to get the rest. That way she's in a good position for absorbing when done, with minimal contact on the towel. You could have her sitting up as well I guess, but I prefer to keep her in a completely neutral position while absorbing, just to relax the TPE.

Remember that makeup is not permanent, so be careful with the face, nipples, and kitty. The oil doubles as a stain remover, so it will have any coloring rub off very easily.

Arthur1960 · Post by **Arthur1960** » Mon Oct 29, 2018 5:34 pm

Hi there, first of all I wouldn't worry about giving any new tpe gal a baby oil rub as soon as she arrives as she just won't need it. She will, however, benefit from a clean and I personally would recommend getting yourself a bath stool to sit her on and then you can clean her with a soft sponge and shower her off. I recently gave my Helena, a YL148, her first baby oil rub and she didn't arrive till late June. As for the application itself, it's the easiest and most enjoyable aspect of caring for a tpe doll. Just sprinkle a bit of the oil into your hands and massage it in. I've currently got nearly a dozen gals so I get a lot of practice and after a while you can do it really quickly (but sometimes it's more fun to take your time!). I tend to do feet and legs first while she's sitting up on the bed and then move around to the back, them do the arms and then the front, which I tend to linger on for some reason, then I stand her up and do her butt. Obviously everyone will have their own way to do it but that works for me, then I leave the baby oil to soak in over night and give a light powdering the next day, usually the oil will have soaked in well after a couple of hours but if you apply powder too soon after oiling you will get clumping of the powder which can get a bit messy. Here's a pic of my Shuri after her back was given an oil rub this afternoon, that will last her now for about 3 months but there will be another gal waiting to have her oil rub so I don't get much time to put my feet up!

Random Dude · Post by **Random Dude** » Mon Oct 29, 2018 6:56 pm

awesome sauce. Thanks for the replies. Guess I was just worried about getting all the junk out of tpe from the manufacterer. Guess I'll just do the soapy water cleaning several times, let dry, powder and be done with it so i can have some FUUUUUUUUUUUUN

Post by **Mon Amour Toujour** » Mon Oct 29, 2018 7:23 pm

I've had several email exchanges with Indigo about oiling. I trust him implicitly with his knowledge on this topic. Do not use baby oil, it has other chemicals in it that can be harmful to TPE. Use a good grade mineral oil; you can find this in the pharmacy section. You only need a light coating and allow it to soak in. I'm also on board with Arthur's recommendations.

devion · Post by **devion** » Mon Oct 29, 2018 7:47 pm

MonAmour wrote:I've had several email exchanges with Indigo about oiling. I trust him implicitly with his knowledge on this topic. Do not use baby oil, it has other chemicals in it that can be harmful to TPE. Use a good grade mineral oil; you can find this in the pharmacy section. You only need a light coating and allow it to soak in. I'm also on board with Arthur's recommendations.

Do you mean something like White Mineral Oil or Pure Mineral Oil? Would these be a safe replacement for baby oil?

Post by **Mon Amour Toujour** » Mon Oct 29, 2018 9:00 pm

devion wrote:
MonAmour wrote:I've had several email exchanges with Indigo about oiling. I trust him implicitly with his knowledge on this topic. Do not use baby oil, it has other chemicals in it that can be harmful to TPE. Use a good grade mineral oil; you can find this in the pharmacy section. You only need a light coating and allow it to soak in. I'm also on board with Arthur's recommendations.
Do you mean something like White Mineral Oil or Pure Mineral Oil? Would these be a safe replacement for baby oil?

That's correct.

Nord · Post by **Nord** » Mon Oct 29, 2018 10:29 pm

MonAmour wrote:
devion wrote:
MonAmour wrote:I've had several email exchanges with Indigo about oiling. I trust him implicitly with his knowledge on this topic. Do not use baby oil, it has other chemicals in it that can be harmful to TPE. Use a good grade mineral oil; you can find this in the pharmacy section. You only need a light coating and allow it to soak in. I'm also on board with Arthur's recommendations.
Do you mean something like White Mineral Oil or Pure Mineral Oil? Would these be a safe replacement for baby oil?
That's correct.

Wait what? This is contradicting what was previously said in the big thread by Indigo and Hansdampf21. Mineraloil based babyoil with few ingredients is what's been recommended for years, while white oil is less recommended due to not being as easy to manage and health risks. Here are some quotes I have saved in a document:

The mineral oil from your link is paraffinum perliquidum = white oil.
The viscosity of 15 mPas and 68 mPas is showing it. (mPas = miliPascalseconds)

Pure mineral oil with that viscosity brings a saturation to the TPE material that is 2-times or 3-times higher than paraffinum liquidum with viscosity above 200 mPas.
Baby oil with isopropyl palmitate (thickener) has about 400 - 500 mPas.

BUT

1.)
It is very expensive.

2.)
It is so thin that you are not able to apply it with your hand.
It runs down between your fingers.
You have to use a big cosmetic brush like a kabuki brush.
Therewith you have to apply the white oil very thin on your TPE doll.

3.)
It takes much longer for being absorbed.
Baby oil is absorbed from the TPE material within 30 minutes because it is thicker.
The white oil needs about 90 minutes to 2 hours until it is absorbed.

4.)
It is not allowed to refill the white oil in a pump spray bottle !
Breathed in particles of white oil inside the lung cannot be expectorated !

Go with the white oil if the mentioned points 1.) to 4.) are acceptable for you.
If you like it easier and cheaper go with the unscended baby oil mentioned from hansdampf21.

And for making it clear to the community:

I did not mention white oil in the past because it is too complicated in usage and it is very expensive.
And it includes a health damiging risk if sprayed because someone is trying it that way.
In addition white oil has no care function for the human skin.

Baby oil with parafinum liquidum is cheap, available in lot of stores, easier to handle and has no risks.

And some words about the recommended ingredients.

Mineral oil has the following label names:
- Paraffin
- Microcristalline Wax
- Petrolatum
- Ceresin
- Paraffinum liquidum
- Cera microcristallina
- Vaseline
- Eucerinum anhydricum

Make sure that it is included inside the baby oil.

The next ingredients are most:
- Isopropyl palmitate
>> thickening the baby oil and a moisture factor for human skin
>> that effect keeps the mineral oil inside the parous TPE material

Parfume
- Aloe vera
>> TPE keeps the smell of parfume, aloe vera or the typical Nivea creme smell
>> you can use this effect to make your doll smelling like a woman using care products
>> add a bit parfume of your own taste to the care products and the doll keeps that smelling because it will be absorbed together with the mineral oil
>> enhance the effect with parfumed powder with the same parfume = an additional cover with parfume smell

So Isopropyl palmitate is fine. This ingredient helps to thicken the oil and keep it inside the TPE is my understanding.

So for example, the most recommended and used baby oil is the Johnsons pink bottle (if I remember correctly), with the simple ingredients of Paraffinum liquidum (mineral oil), Isopropyl palmitate (thickening substance, to make it easier and safer to use), and Aloe Vera for perfume (there are perfume free variants as well). Nothing harmful as far as I've heard. But of course one should avoid other variants and brands that has a range of other stuff in it, and especially vegetable oils and alcohol.

Post by **Mon Amour Toujour** » Mon Oct 29, 2018 11:06 pm

Indigo is not saying don't use white oil, he gives reasons why it's complicated to use in it's natural state. Indigo makes his own oil. This is what he sent me in an email about his product; it comes flavored as well:

The mineral oil (high quality white oil) has 64 mPas, it is a bit thicker as baby oil and it has no thickening agent (like isopropyl palmitate in baby oil).
It is the perfect monthly TPE doll care (better as baby oil).
The flavor will be noticable only for a short time after the first treatment, but after 3 months the TPE will keep the flavor.
You can do the mineral oil care twice per month, if the TPE is of a firmer type.
Soft TPE blends should only be treated with mineral oil once a month as they already have a high amount of mineral oil "on board".

Nord, the quotes from Indigo you share above I'm not familiar with and may have been posted before he had his oil available. I know he has told me about some TPE brands not responding well to the use of baby oil; from those quotes you offer, he's saying that baby oil will do the job but may not be the best option.

Sarg · Post by **Sarg** » Tue Oct 30, 2018 12:44 am

Question please: Do you use any oil in the cavities (mouth) or would that posion you if a lot of kissing, especially if your doll had oral (tongue) option? Thanks for any responses.

grimreefer24601 · Post by **grimreefer24601** » Tue Oct 30, 2018 1:08 am

Baby Oil is safe for you and your TPE doll. This isn't rocket surgery. Although some people think it is.

Seriously, Indigo is right, but extreme. In our usage baby oil is fine. In fact, you'll find many people use an array of products that rocket surgeons might stray away from. I just used a whole tube of Benzoyl Peroxide Acne Cream on a brand new doll to remove the factory makeup. I'm sure a few people here would question that, but so far my results are as expected, and are great.

It comes down to a product that does the exact same thing, as far as our outcomes are concerned, versus a higher priced product that is "safer" for your doll. I do it myself. I sell Jinsan TPE Solvent and Stain Remover on my website. Are there other, cheaper alternatives available? You bet, I use them, when it makes sense. I use the Jinsan products also when they make sense.

sennex · Post by **sennex** » Tue Oct 30, 2018 1:32 am

Just my input, not to put anyone else out because I am a newb. I bought my tpe doll (Chrystal) a couple of weeks ago. Before I did my research I bought some black fishnet stockings for her, cause I love fishnets. Put them on here first day (after a wash with mild dish detergent and water and a talc after she dried). Patience is a virtue. I then got called away for three days for work. While gone and thinking of chrystal waiting for me I did research on clothes etc. Found out dark clothes stain... oh oh... got back. Sure enough her legs had black stain from the hose. Not happy. Tried washing with water, no go, then baking soda paste, ok but not great, then a little rubbing alcohol... no effect. Bought a bottle of baby oil and some cotton gloves... generously rubbed on and voila, the gloves were black with the die and her legs were completely free of stain. I continued to rub her with baby oil (just because I figured why not and then let it soak in and talc her). You would not believe the crud that came off the rest of her body. I used 6 pairs of gloves and 1/4 bottle of baby oil and could not believe the difference. I thought a simple wash would do from the factory, seriously, if was like flakes of black crap as I pushed the oil up her body. Could just be the powder and old oil plus dust from factory but do yourselves a favor, try it. Oh FYI chemical smell is completely gone. cheers mates.

Indigo20 · Post by **Indigo20** » Tue Oct 30, 2018 7:41 pm

Babyoil is good and you can use it for the montly care of your TPE doll.
It has the tickener Isopropyl Palmitate included.
If you are using babyoil for the work with your heat gun, the thickener can cause a smearing effect.
I use white oil 15 mPas for repairs.
Maybe I made a mistake while I talked to Don / MonAmour about the different versions of mineral oil.
If that was given, please excuse.

Now to make it clear:

Babyoil > monthly care

White oil > repair

As I said, I use white oil 15 mPas for repairs.
It is included in the TPE repair kit and soldering iron attachment kit.

And I'm using white oil 68 mPas, it is thicker as babyoil and has no thickener.
I make my own fragranced white oil with it.

But please, please, please, do not start again with a "wild and unnecessary" discussion about mineral oil.

Guys, please, think logically.
Think for the material...and not in an emotional way because of the shape it has.