Safe to buy or nah?

[Herhearthbeats]

Hello and Welcome Suraj ! He looks well detailed.

Anyway your thought about his small feet is melting in my mind with his visible standing ability and I wonder whether it would have been safer to give him longer feet. I hope your standing attempts do well if it's in your plans !

Thanks so much for welcoming Suraj!

His knee joints were a bit loose when he arrived to me (apparently this is not uncommon for AF dolls) so that alone made me decide not to have him standing for the moment. I'm planning to buy him a stand of some sort. I know Coeros has one that looks very nice.

Be wary about the definition of "stand" as it goes in dolls' world. As I already (partly) experienced, Coeros sells :

1) Real doll stands (ie able of keeping a doll straight up by sustaining all their weight) using a screw for attachement. So, if you want to use such a device then your doll will need a Female screw hold, either in the neck's back or in the skull's top.

2) Doll support helpers, able only to stabilize wayside a doll who is already standing firm to their feet. It's just a siding help, it doesn't support anything of the doll's weight (in fact, Coeros already warned about an improper use of the device, which might cause damage in the doll's pubic area).

So, if your doll has got somehow floppy joints, I recommend you use solution 1). I myself use solution 2)...well because Irony and Oniry don't have any screw hold, but any standing attempt, with their floppy joints, is kind of a fight xd. I don't recommend that generaly, let alone for someone whose doll never standed up.

Anyway, has Suraj some well, knee-blocking abilities ? Like when you extend his shin vertically with his tight, then does such a mechanism prevent the shin to angle forward, like unnaturally for a Human ? If that's the case, then you might (with many precautions !) try a standing up. If it's important to you of course.

Wow, this is vital information right here! Thank you for explaining the stands to me.I was confused when looking at them, with how exactly they function.

Raj does not have a screw hold in his neck or head so that option is out.

Thankfully, his knees do "lock" in place and don't overextend in any unnatural ways. I had wanted him to stand for photography purposes. I have this huge Indian tapestry on my wall that is the perfect backdrop for him.

Nope, there is often blurred information about new products. If Raj's hip and back joints are still firm, then you might make him stand back to a wall as Coeros aptly wrote. Just be wary and maybe test short standing sessions first. A doll "support" (not a true doll-stand since Raj doesn't have a screw hold) will surely add horizontal stability (there are also rolling models, which I probably will find useful in further shots). Oh and also be wary that the support's back is open enough to adapt to Raj's waist width.

[Herhearthbeats]

Hello and Welcome Suraj ! He looks well detailed.

Anyway your thought about his small feet is melting in my mind with his visible standing ability and I wonder whether it would have been safer to give him longer feet. I hope your standing attempts do well if it's in your plans !

Thanks so much for welcoming Suraj!

His knee joints were a bit loose when he arrived to me (apparently this is not uncommon for AF dolls) so that alone made me decide not to have him standing for the moment. I'm planning to buy him a stand of some sort. I know Coeros has one that looks very nice.

Be wary about the definition of "stand" as it goes in dolls' world. As I already (partly) experienced, Coeros sells :

1) Real doll stands (ie able of keeping a doll straight up by sustaining all their weight) using a screw for attachement. So, if you want to use such a device then your doll will need a Female screw hold, either in the neck's back or in the skull's top.

2) Doll support helpers, able only to stabilize wayside a doll who is already standing firm to their feet. It's just a siding help, it doesn't support anything of the doll's weight (in fact, Coeros already warned about an improper use of the device, which might cause damage in the doll's pubic area).

So, if your doll has got somehow floppy joints, I recommend you use solution 1). I myself use solution 2)...well because Irony and Oniry don't have any screw hold, but any standing attempt, with their floppy joints, is kind of a fight xd. I don't recommend that generaly, let alone for someone whose doll never standed up.

Anyway, has Suraj some well, knee-blocking abilities ? Like when you extend his shin vertically with his tight, then does such a mechanism prevent the shin to angle forward, like unnaturally for a Human ? If that's the case, then you might (with many precautions !) try a standing up. If it's important to you of course.

Thanks so much for such a clear and detailed explanation about our doll stands and how they work!

We agree with your perspective!

There's also another way, we can have the doll lean against a wall. Of course, we need to stay close and be ready to catch him if needed, and see if he can manage to stand with the wall's support.

Nope, like you already justly stated in other forums, precise information for us trying new devices for the first time is worth repeating and repeating again...

Making a doll stand up can be very tricky, especially if their DO is hesitating about it and/or standing abilities like joint's stiffness, are decaying.
Without being pessimistic, we also must think about the possible future struggles between Magnus Vesper and their 100 Ibs (so I guess about 45 kgs) Raj if something goes out of way...a barely in shape 60-70 kgs man like me isn't exactly laughing when his 35 kgs doll decides to break loose xd.

[Coeros]

Hello and Welcome Suraj ! He looks well detailed.

Anyway your thought about his small feet is melting in my mind with his visible standing ability and I wonder whether it would have been safer to give him longer feet. I hope your standing attempts do well if it's in your plans !

Thanks so much for welcoming Suraj!

His knee joints were a bit loose when he arrived to me (apparently this is not uncommon for AF dolls) so that alone made me decide not to have him standing for the moment. I'm planning to buy him a stand of some sort. I know Coeros has one that looks very nice.

Be wary about the definition of "stand" as it goes in dolls' world. As I already (partly) experienced, Coeros sells :

1) Real doll stands (ie able of keeping a doll straight up by sustaining all their weight) using a screw for attachement. So, if you want to use such a device then your doll will need a Female screw hold, either in the neck's back or in the skull's top.

2) Doll support helpers, able only to stabilize wayside a doll who is already standing firm to their feet. It's just a siding help, it doesn't support anything of the doll's weight (in fact, Coeros already warned about an improper use of the device, which might cause damage in the doll's pubic area).

So, if your doll has got somehow floppy joints, I recommend you use solution 1). I myself use solution 2)...well because Irony and Oniry don't have any screw hold, but any standing attempt, with their floppy joints, is kind of a fight xd. I don't recommend that generaly, let alone for someone whose doll never standed up.

Anyway, has Suraj some well, knee-blocking abilities ? Like when you extend his shin vertically with his tight, then does such a mechanism prevent the shin to angle forward, like unnaturally for a Human ? If that's the case, then you might (with many precautions !) try a standing up. If it's important to you of course.

Thanks so much for such a clear and detailed explanation about our doll stands and how they work!

We agree with your perspective!

There's also another way, we can have the doll lean against a wall. Of course, we need to stay close and be ready to catch him if needed, and see if he can manage to stand with the wall's support.

Nope, like you already justly stated in other forums, precise information for us trying new devices for the first time is worth repeating and repeating again...

Making a doll stand up can be very tricky, especially if their DO is hesitating about it and/or standing abilities like joint's stiffness, are decaying.
Without being pessimistic, we also must think about the possible future struggles between Magnus Vesper and their 100 Ibs (so I guess about 45 kgs) Raj if something goes out of way...a barely in shape 60-70 kgs man like me isn't exactly laughing when his 35 kgs doll decides to break loose xd.

Thank you for your additional input. A cautious approach and protective measures are indeed necessary when attempting this for the first time.

In this scenario, I hadn't fully considered Magnus Vesper's physical condition and Raj's weight, as well as the hip and back joint conditions you mentioned. My expression was also not rigorous enough.

With protective measures in place, attempting brief wall-supported standing is also a further assessment test of the doll's standing capability after confirming knee lock, to see if Raj's knee joints can support the body weight. If they can, then auxiliary support like a dual-function stand should be effective for Raj during photo shoots.

It would be even better if we could know more about Raj's feet situation, whether there are bolts and if they are hard feet.

Once again, kudos to you for your rigorous attitude and detailed supplementation!

[Herhearthbeats]

Nope, like you already justly stated in other forums, precise information for us trying new devices for the first time is worth repeating and repeating again...

Making a doll stand up can be very tricky, especially if their DO is hesitating about it and/or standing abilities like joint's stiffness, are decaying.
Without being pessimistic, we also must think about the possible future struggles between Magnus Vesper and their 100 Ibs (so I guess about 45 kgs) Raj if something goes out of way...a barely in shape 60-70 kgs man like me isn't exactly laughing when his 35 kgs doll decides to break loose xd.

Thank you for your additional input. A cautious approach and protective measures are indeed necessary when attempting this for the first time.

In this scenario, I hadn't fully considered Magnus Vesper's physical condition and Raj's weight, as well as the hip and back joint conditions you mentioned. My expression was also not rigorous enough.

With protective measures in place, attempting brief wall-supported standing is also a further assessment test of the doll's standing capability after confirming knee lock, to see if Raj's knee joints can support the body weight. If they can, then auxiliary support like a dual-function stand should be effective for Raj during photo shoots.

It would be even better if we could know more about Raj's feet situation, whether there are bolts and if they are hard feet.

Once again, kudos to you for your rigorous attitude and detailed supplementation!

No problem to me...I would also be curious for Raj's first stand ups.

[Coeros]

Nope, like you already justly stated in other forums, precise information for us trying new devices for the first time is worth repeating and repeating again...

Making a doll stand up can be very tricky, especially if their DO is hesitating about it and/or standing abilities like joint's stiffness, are decaying.
Without being pessimistic, we also must think about the possible future struggles between Magnus Vesper and their 100 Ibs (so I guess about 45 kgs) Raj if something goes out of way...a barely in shape 60-70 kgs man like me isn't exactly laughing when his 35 kgs doll decides to break loose xd.

Thank you for your additional input. A cautious approach and protective measures are indeed necessary when attempting this for the first time.

In this scenario, I hadn't fully considered Magnus Vesper's physical condition and Raj's weight, as well as the hip and back joint conditions you mentioned. My expression was also not rigorous enough.

With protective measures in place, attempting brief wall-supported standing is also a further assessment test of the doll's standing capability after confirming knee lock, to see if Raj's knee joints can support the body weight. If they can, then auxiliary support like a dual-function stand should be effective for Raj during photo shoots.

It would be even better if we could know more about Raj's feet situation, whether there are bolts and if they are hard feet.

Once again, kudos to you for your rigorous attitude and detailed supplementation!

No problem to me...I would also be curious for Raj's first stand ups.

I’m just as curious as you are.

[Magnus Vesper]

Wow thank you you all so much for these detailed replies.

Raj does have standing bolts in his feet and very stiff ankle joints. He is quite heavy and I am indeed a smaller guy but I do have a wall for him to lean against for extra support.

[Herhearthbeats]

There"s a good thing to him standing joints. In that case back against wall could be enough. Another thing might be to give him tight shoes which don't sleep.

[Magnus Vesper]

Reporting back with my darling Raj!

He loved the idea of colored nails so I bought his some black press-ons. Men's size are expensive and harder to source so we made do with a standard set. Not bad.

I do my best to keep his wig brushed and tidy but I'll be buying a shorter one for bedtime, as this one is already feeling like it needs maintenance.

I did the whole "clueless partner" thing and went to thrift shop to look for clothes for him. The one thing he wanted was a nice pair of jeans. I got lucky and found a pair of Levi's! After his body stocking arrived I was finally able to put them on him. Seems a 30 waist isn't big enough for his glorious thighs and ass.

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