foofighter12 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 10, 2024 3:52 pm"Thick" women have been celebrated and desired for a very very long time... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venus_of_Willendorf
Yikes!!! We see the evolution of sex dolls right here
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foofighter12 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 10, 2024 3:52 pm"Thick" women have been celebrated and desired for a very very long time... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venus_of_Willendorf
Thousands of years of human history disagrees. Modern science only relatively recently makes it possible for women without optimal body types to support (supplemental nutrition), birth (C section), and sustain (synthetically produced formula) human children.
he says as he quotes the asian model in the asian marketdonjuanx wrote: ↑Sun Mar 10, 2024 3:41 pm I really don't like the characterization of skinny-waisted girls with wide hips / a nice ass as "unrealistic", or any kind of thin, athletic girl as "unrealistic".
I think what people in the West need to realize is that heavy, or chubby women are abnormal in most of the world, and the predominance of overweight, or "thick" women in the West is an aberration and not necessarily reflective of human nature or human desires.
It's actually more realistic and natural to be attracted to this:
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than to this:
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The first is a thin, healthy, athletic young woman, and the latter is a woman who is overweight and unhealthy.
If you travel the world, you will see far more thin, athletic women than "thick" women, especially in countries where the Western diet hasn't taken 100% hold and people still walk places instead of driving everywhere in a car.
I saw a very good documentary few years back named "Science of Sex" where they studied tons of different cultures over the history of few centuries. The conclusion was awesome. Different cultures appreciated different women figures, however one thing was common for them all. They all were attracted by the "hourglass figure of a woman", briefly some cultures like thinner women like other like bigger one, but the hourglass figure is important (bigger breast and hip, while the waist is smaller than the hip). For a human, this is sign of health, which is specifically programmed in our brains to be attracted too. Fat women, who lose the hourglass figure are a niche, and are not proclaimed as sexy in any cultures. Few painters and sculptors did represented fat women, but it does not mean that it was the culture consensus as attractive. This is a little bit like today where fat women are shown on the cover of Sport Illustrated as "sexy" ... but that 99% of men will not give a damn about it.crabstacean wrote: ↑Mon Mar 11, 2024 10:32 am Now it turns out that thin, healthy, fit women cannot give birth naturally. What a bunch of bullcrap. There is a difference between body proportions (genetics) and body fat (discipline).
Eating more and getting fat does not make your hip bones grow, nor your mammary glands bigger. Jesus, this is anatomy 101.
Fat women were praised in the past because they were simply rare and exotic, since food was mostly scarce. It has nothing to do with child-bearing nor health. In fact, the more overweight; the more complications during birth.
From the wiki itself:foofighter12 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 10, 2024 3:52 pm"Thick" women have been celebrated and desired for a very very long time... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venus_of_Willendorf
I strongly disagree with your statement, as that is your interpretation. Its meaning was lost ~25,000 years ago per the article. It could have been a warning against people like Gorlock the destroyer (google him - yes him) for all anyone knows. I am against that shape for various reasons like weight, not my thing nor preference, and innately against it.wikipedia wrote: Very little is known about the Venus' origin, method of creation, or cultural significance; however, it is one of numerous "Venus figurines" surviving from Paleolithic Europe.[10] The purpose of the carving is the subject of much speculation.
This doll is fat/obese..not what people here are asking forcrabstacean wrote: ↑Mon Mar 11, 2024 10:32 am Now it turns out that thin, healthy, fit women cannot give birth naturally. What a bunch of bullcrap. There is a difference between body proportions (genetics) and body fat (discipline).
Eating more and getting fat does not make your hip bones grow, nor your mammary glands bigger. Jesus, this is anatomy 101.
Fat women were praised in the past because they were simply rare and exotic, since food was mostly scarce. It has nothing to do with child-bearing nor health. In fact, the more overweight; the more complications during birth.
Don't forget wiki can be written and/or edited by anyone.bl8900 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 11, 2024 7:06 pmFrom the wiki itself:foofighter12 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 10, 2024 3:52 pm"Thick" women have been celebrated and desired for a very very long time... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venus_of_WillendorfI strongly disagree with your statement, as that is your interpretation. Its meaning was lost ~25,000 years ago per the article. It could have been a warning against people like Gorlock the destroyer (google him - yes him) for all anyone knows. I am against that shape for various reasons like weight, not my thing nor preference, and innately against it.wikipedia wrote: Very little is known about the Venus' origin, method of creation, or cultural significance; however, it is one of numerous "Venus figurines" surviving from Paleolithic Europe.[10] The purpose of the carving is the subject of much speculation.
As for the topic on hand, I'd like to see a G-cup model ~160 to 170cm under 34kg (lower the better) like this AI generated model:
The leg length ratios for the 148 and 161 seem fine for me.
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I own models 148cm D+ cup and 161cm F cup. From experience, I would like to see improvements in the vagina texture. The 161cm model was certainly a step up from the 148cm model but still feels lacking. Their are a couple of other manufactures that have a few other love hole texture options and would be a great option to have.
Yes, the wiki can be edited and the sources can potentially be biased as well. The statue is still subject to infinite interpretation is my point. The statement ofDollCommander wrote: ↑Mon Mar 11, 2024 7:26 pmDon't forget wiki can be written and/or edited by anyone.bl8900 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 11, 2024 7:06 pmFrom the wiki itself:foofighter12 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 10, 2024 3:52 pm"Thick" women have been celebrated and desired for a very very long time... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venus_of_WillendorfI strongly disagree with your statement, as that is your interpretation. Its meaning was lost ~25,000 years ago per the article. It could have been a warning against people like Gorlock the destroyer (google him - yes him) for all anyone knows. I am against that shape for various reasons like weight, not my thing nor preference, and innately against it.wikipedia wrote: Very little is known about the Venus' origin, method of creation, or cultural significance; however, it is one of numerous "Venus figurines" surviving from Paleolithic Europe.[10] The purpose of the carving is the subject of much speculation.
As for the topic on hand, I'd like to see a G-cup model ~160 to 170cm under 34kg (lower the better) like this AI generated model:(see original post, links removed for brevity)
The leg length ratios for the 148 and 161 seem fine for me.
Edit:
I own models 148cm D+ cup and 161cm F cup. From experience, I would like to see improvements in the vagina texture. The 161cm model was certainly a step up from the 148cm model but still feels lacking. Their are a couple of other manufactures that have a few other love hole texture options and would be a great option to have.
Breasts look good on all of those AI photos but none of the bodies fit with Tayu's request for a "plump" (aka thicker than stick thin, not fat or obese) model. Except breast size they all pretty much look like Tayu's already existing catalog.
does not hold true for all and is subjective at best. It may hold true for a certain culture at a certain point in time. By the same token, some culture at a certain point in time would find it grotesque as well. The statues shape is certainly not the shape of the average woman in history and only in country's like the US is this a recent thing."Thick" women have been celebrated and desired for a very very long time...
Yeah, I think there is some confusion between thick and actually fat or obese.bl8900 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 11, 2024 8:17 pmYes, the wiki can be edited and the sources can potentially be biased as well. The statue is still subject to infinite interpretation is my point. The statement ofDollCommander wrote: ↑Mon Mar 11, 2024 7:26 pmDon't forget wiki can be written and/or edited by anyone.bl8900 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 11, 2024 7:06 pmFrom the wiki itself:foofighter12 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 10, 2024 3:52 pm"Thick" women have been celebrated and desired for a very very long time... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venus_of_WillendorfI strongly disagree with your statement, as that is your interpretation. Its meaning was lost ~25,000 years ago per the article. It could have been a warning against people like Gorlock the destroyer (google him - yes him) for all anyone knows. I am against that shape for various reasons like weight, not my thing nor preference, and innately against it.wikipedia wrote: Very little is known about the Venus' origin, method of creation, or cultural significance; however, it is one of numerous "Venus figurines" surviving from Paleolithic Europe.[10] The purpose of the carving is the subject of much speculation.
As for the topic on hand, I'd like to see a G-cup model ~160 to 170cm under 34kg (lower the better) like this AI generated model:(see original post, links removed for brevity)
The leg length ratios for the 148 and 161 seem fine for me.
Edit:
I own models 148cm D+ cup and 161cm F cup. From experience, I would like to see improvements in the vagina texture. The 161cm model was certainly a step up from the 148cm model but still feels lacking. Their are a couple of other manufactures that have a few other love hole texture options and would be a great option to have.
Breasts look good on all of those AI photos but none of the bodies fit with Tayu's request for a "plump" (aka thicker than stick thin, not fat or obese) model. Except breast size they all pretty much look like Tayu's already existing catalog.does not hold true for all and is subjective at best. It may hold true for a certain culture at a certain point in time. By the same token, some culture at a certain point in time would find it grotesque as well. The statues shape is certainly not the shape of the average woman in history and only in country's like the US is this a recent thing."Thick" women have been celebrated and desired for a very very long time...
I disagree with the body statements where the AI pics look like the existing catalog. I have a couple Tayu's and having them for a couple of years and you will notice the differences comparing to the AI pic's. The AI pics have more a defined stomach/torso area, shoulder width is a bit longer, the under bust measure is a bit larger, "hour glass" shape is more pronounced, thigh to calf ratio is more meaty on the thighs, calves appear bigger.
Supposedly they did.