Make your doll suck well :)

[nox2doll]

You may know that already but by adding nose channels she sucks damn good

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[Socratus]

Good idea. Kinda makes me wonder why the doll makers don't do this. But then again there are a lot of simple improvements that could be made to dolls that they just don't bother with and it's left to us to do.

[nox2doll]

Thats I wander too. Without those holes dolls eyes just want to pop up when too mutch air in. I have done this several times.

300% better blow jobs with human like noices

Little warning, don't use too hot stick. The basic work flow is to get material off with the stick. Stick in, out and wipe the stick then again and again and finally you can feel when the stick goes through the "sucking chamber"

I'm using hollow form cutter stick. So, I can push it all way in.

[Wheezer]

Thanks for the info and the drawing.
I saw you mentioned it in the food grade TPE thread and was going to ask about it.

Sounds like a good solution.
Does it prevent the eye bulge issue?

Cheers!
... W ...

[nox2doll]

Does it prevent the eye bulge issue?

Indeed, all excess air pressure escapes through the nose. The negative pressure in the other direction then depends on the size of the channel, so it is not a good idea to make the channel very large (1-3mm) right from the start.

[UpperLower]

Definitely going to try this

[Wheezer]

I already have a head on the bench for rework, so I will try this mod tonight.
Test results tomorrow.
Cheers!
... W ...

[nox2doll]

Be careful with the nose when you insert the hot stick. You have to lift the tip of the nose and the nostril is then under tension and melts easily too much.

Don't forget to protect the aroundings of the nose hole. A hot stick just needs to touch it and it's ruined.

In this case the heat of the stick must be rather low, just enough to melt but no more..

Good luck with your crafting

If you first manage to make good pressure channels, the channels can be shaped wider on the inside so that they also work as liquid channels. If you finish the nostrils to match the human anatomy, you won't even find a paid one to do the job better

[UpperLower]

I wonder if instead of using a hot stick, carefully push in a 3mm nail? No heat required, plus a protective sleeve can be slipped over the shaft with the nail head pushing the sleeve into place.

[Zephyrus]

I imagine the heat is needed to make sure the channel stays open. If you just shove a nail through then the material will close straight back up - like when inflating her boobies with a syringe.

[seagull]

a protective sleeve can be slipped over the (nail) shaft with the nail head pushing the sleeve into place.

[nox2doll]

I imagine the heat is needed to make sure the channel stays open. If you just shove a nail through then the material will close straight back up - like when inflating her boobies with a syringe.

Yes, thats why heat. You can use scissors too but it is harder that way. Anyways, material must be removed.

For the test, of course, you can push a nail and install a thin hose in the opened hole, but I doubt the end result will be useful.

A thin air hole (nose channels) alone is not necessarily enough. All lubricant or other liquids must have a way to escape from the under-pressured mouth or the doll will cough up later the liquid through the mouth with high pressure. The matter can be found out by testing and the coughing can be eliminated by modifying the shape of the channels or simply expanding it so that the liquid can move. Expanding the channels will decrease the pressure of the doll's mouth so do it little by little.

Google translater is used but it has difficulties to understund finnish language. So, the text is what it is..

[nox2doll]

I wonder if instead of using a hot stick, carefully push in a 3mm nail? No heat required, plus a protective sleeve can be slipped over the shaft with the nail head pushing the sleeve into place.

I recommend starting with a smaller hole than 3mm, it can always be made bigger. Probably 1mm is good, it's easy to expand once you've set it up correctly.

You can ofcourse heat the 1mm nail and carefylly push it in and it should cool down while you push it in. The material sticks to the nail and can be removed that way too. It should look like something like that when done. The holes are tight for this size of stick (about 1/3 of it).

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The air channels installed like that. Not on near bottom as I remember (its not possible). The last few cents of the doll's mouth goes to inside a doll's skull and can't be accessed. That is details what I almost forget. Therefore, the hot stick must enter the doll's mouth at a steep angle.

Please, make sure that your doll have a solid material trought that area!

[nox2doll]

WARNING!

The last few cents of the doll's mouth goes to inside a doll's skull and can't be accessed. That is a details what I almost forget. Therefore, the hot stick must enter the doll's mouth at a steep angle. It's been a while since I did this. I remembered that the channel was installed at the bottom of the doll's mouth, and after looking more closely, I noticed that it wasn't. I was wondering about it and now it came back to my mind.

If you install the channels as shown in the drawing, they come out of the doll's mouth somewhere in the middle. You can't install them otherwise. This may cause so-called nose farts when the channels gets closed too early. That can be avoided by shaping the channel outlet a little wider (by hot stick inside the nose). I remembered part of it, but not exactly the cause and effect. That happens some times

More warnings, don't operate doll's mouth inside (or be extra carefull). Do all the work through the nose. The inner surface of the doll's mouth is only 10 mm when it goes inside the doll's skull. If the doll do so called nose farts or coughs you need to widen the channel to open more as you go inward.

If you try or already tryed to install a channel in different angle you may noticed that the stick won't go there because of the skull. Nothing is broken you just have a wall against your stick. Always start with a small hole to make sure that the channel goes the right path to the doll's mouth. I have done this by using scissors too but that method is kind of clumsy and not recomended.

Please, make sure that your doll have a solid material trought that area!


Then, the question we wondered at the beginning is why manufacturers don't do this small and simple thing themselves. The answer is that the doll's head does not actually support this function and this is not even a simple thing to do. It definetly prevent the eye bulge but may do your doll fart through the nose if job is left unfinished.

The possible nose farting comes if there is compressed air which suddenly erupts through the nose. If the canals inside the mouth are funnel-shaped, this does not happen. You can make the funnel shape from the inside with sharp scissors, but I wouldn't do it for a valuable head. With the right tool, it can be done through the nose and the end result is neat.

This air duct installation guide does exactly what is promised, but the installation itself is not the simplest of all. My doll has big air channels (less sucking), I use a lot of lube and the doll sounds real. She won't suck too mutch since I don't like that. If there is too much liquid, it will come out from the nose.. quite realistically (..more like porntube style). If you use a condom, you have to find the best way to modify the doll's functions yourself. Using a condom can affect the functioning of the air channels.

[nox2doll]

Further development

All of the above works for a basic doll head, and there is no need to separate the skull from the material.

If you want to make a perfect solution, the skull should be detached from the material. It might sound like extreme work, but it's actually not very difficult. The material is attached to the skull with glue only on the top of the head and comes off quite easily. Installation the other way around is also quite easy (glue it on). You can drill holes in the skull for air hoses, which are installed at the bottom of the doll's mouth and in the doll's nose. I'm going to do this at some point. By doing this, the air hoses do not interfere with the use of the doll in any way (and the sucking strenght can be fine tuned by size of hoses).