Stains on SM dolls Question

Samurai · Post by **Samurai** » Tue Feb 19, 2019 3:02 pm

Can i ask if anyone who own's a Sm doll has had their dolls stained and used Jinsan (small white tub) stain removing cream on their doll and if so how well did it work ?

Thanks in advance.

Samurai...

Post by **Booty Call Dolls** » Tue Feb 19, 2019 3:09 pm

After seeing what acne cream did to one SM doll, you should definetly check if there is a reaction on a hidden part like her neck.
Eventually, Indigo20 stain remover helped this person.
We suggest you kindly read this from the BCD customer statisfaction happiness team
Love,
Ximena, the SM BCD Girl

Post by **Tsall** » Tue Feb 19, 2019 3:23 pm

Half an hour ago I've read your problem at UKLDF and since then I searched Grubhed's problem with his SM 136.

The catastrophe: Benzoyl peroxide stain
Partial success: Re: TPE stain remover- what is it?

It's different to your problem. But it is interesting that TPE from SM reacts so differently compared to TPE from other manufacturers.

But this is a little off-topic, so back to Samurai's question:

Samurai wrote:Can i ask if anyone who own's a Sm doll has had their dolls stained and used Jinsan (small white tub) stain removing cream on their doll and if so how well did it work ?

Post by **Booty Call Dolls** » Tue Feb 19, 2019 5:24 pm

Tsall,
There are two ways you can deal with stains....
HIDE them or REMOVE them
Push it down out of sight or pull up
Key thing is to test some where so there is not a repeat of history
Love,
Ximena
The SM BCD Girl

Metricnut · Post by **Metricnut** » Tue Feb 19, 2019 7:10 pm

I use Benzoyl Peroxide on my SM dolls without any trouble.

I was nervous after seeing the pictures of the staining from using Benzoyl Peroxide on a SM doll. But I had already used it several times so I continue to do so. (on 4 different SM dolls so far)

I do agree that testing on the bottom of the foot or somewhere you won't care if it stains to make sure before rubbing it on large areas.

This is what I use. (From Amazon)

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Metricnut

Samurai · Post by **Samurai** » Wed Feb 20, 2019 12:04 pm

Thanks for the replies guy's but it's to late to test in a unseen area

I have used Jinsan stain removal cream for years now, It has always worked on every TPE doll i have had and there has been a few from various manufactures over the last 8 years, So when my SM 156 a got a small dotted stain along her lower back from black underwere that is a couple of years old and has been washed countless times to the point the washing instruction lable has faded i figured i would apply some stain remover and remove the very light stains.

I applyed the jinsan cream and left over night, on checking her in the morning this is what i found.....

So at this point i thought W.T.F

I thought it might have been the cream was past its used by date or something so i experimented.

I put a small amount of the cream on

A wm doll head
A irontech doll head
A sm doll head
and a sm doll insert all of which were Tan skin tone.

The Wm and irontech heads passed the test as no marks were left on them

The sm doll head and the insert suffered the same result as the doll both got stained if thats what we can call it...

So it would seam the wm/jinsan stain remover is NOT recomended for SM dolls.

It would have been nice to know this before hand though...

As far as i am concerned the doll it now ruined as i only use them for photos and the resale value had gone down dramatically...

Samurai...

Metricnut · Post by **Metricnut** » Wed Feb 20, 2019 9:06 pm

That is very unfortunate Samurai.

I am grateful that you took the time to test the product on your other brand TPE and shared the results with us. Hopefully this problem can be better understood at some point so others can avoid the sorrow you must feel now.

So we know that this problem seems to only be with SM TPE.
And it isn't a problem with all brands of Benzoyl Peroxide products. (based on my stain removal experience)
If we assume that the TPE blend from SM is consistently the same.
Then maybe the staining is from the "inactive" ingredients in the different brands of acne wash?

Could you try the same brand I use? Put a bit on her foot and see if it stains? If it does not stain then maybe it will help reduce or even fix your stain along the small of her back?

Metricnut

Grubhed · Post by **Grubhed** » Wed Feb 20, 2019 9:32 pm

Samurai wrote:I applyed the jinsan cream and left over night, on checking her in the morning this is what i found.....

Samurai...

Sadly that is all too familiar to me. That is what happened to me using benzoyl peroxide. Other TPE never had the problem. Something unique about the SM blend. Indigo20's remover helped, but it wasn't a complete success. I may have gotten better results if I tried it before I tried all of the other home remedies. From what I understand now, I made it worse before trying. I'm currently working with Jeff at BCD to get a replacement body.

Metricnut how old are your SM dolls? Mine is a soft TPE I got in December. Maybe they changed the formula for their TPE blend?

Grubhed

Smdoll-jack · Post by **Smdoll-jack** » Wed Feb 20, 2019 9:35 pm

Samurai wrote:Can i ask if anyone who own's a Sm doll has had their dolls stained and used Jinsan (small white tub) stain removing cream on their doll and if so how well did it work ?

Thanks in advance.

Samurai...

Hi Samurai
i sorry to see this. but you should use our tailor-made cream to remove it.have you contact Star?

Post by **SMdoll** » Wed Feb 20, 2019 9:57 pm

Hello, Sam, I have contacted you through PM, I think I will help you solve this problem together.
Star

Samurai · Post by **Samurai** » Thu Feb 21, 2019 1:35 am

Metricnut wrote:That is very unfortunate Samurai.

I am grateful that you took the time to test the product on your other brand TPE and shared the results with us. Hopefully this problem can be better understood at some point so others can avoid the sorrow you must feel now.

So we know that this problem seems to only be with SM TPE.
And it isn't a problem with all brands of Benzoyl Peroxide products. (based on my stain removal experience)
If we assume that the TPE blend from SM is consistently the same.
Then maybe the staining is from the "inactive" ingredients in the different brands of acne wash?

Could you try the same brand I use? Put a bit on her foot and see if it stains? If it does not stain then maybe it will help reduce or even fix your stain along the small of her back?

Metricnut

Hi Metricnut and thanks i had a search for Dr Song and it looks like i would need to import from USA (Im in the Uk) there are others similar here but i am reluctant to try them in case of more damage, but thanks for you reply.

Samurai..

Samurai · Post by **Samurai** » Thu Feb 21, 2019 1:37 am

Smdoll-jack wrote:
Samurai wrote:Can i ask if anyone who own's a Sm doll has had their dolls stained and used Jinsan (small white tub) stain removing cream on their doll and if so how well did it work ?

Thanks in advance.

Samurai...
Hi Samurai
i sorry to see this. but you should use our tailor-made cream to remove it.have you contact Star?

Hi Jack, i did not know you guy's made your own stain removal cream

As i don't know of anyone who has got it.

I will have a talk with star.

Thanks.

Samurai.

icewind · Post by **icewind** » Sun Mar 03, 2019 3:00 pm

Samurai wrote: I applyed the jinsan cream and left over night, on checking her in the morning this is what i found.....

Sorry to see these pictures Samurai, but now we all see that the Jinsan color remover does not remove the color pigments, this "remover" destroys the pigments only...

And it seems that the remover reacts itself with SM-Doll TPE! Causes a discoloration?

If possible buy the color remover from Indigo20, i used it myself several times and worked perfectly because this remover is really a "remover".

This is not an advertisement. Just help...

Samurai · Post by **Samurai** » Sun Mar 03, 2019 3:26 pm

icewind wrote:
Samurai wrote: I applyed the jinsan cream and left over night, on checking her in the morning this is what i found.....

Sorry to see these pictures Samurai, but now we all see that the Jinsan color remover does not remove the color pigments, this "remover" destroys the pigments only...

And it seems that the remover reacts itself with SM-Doll TPE! Causes a discoloration?

If possible buy the color remover from Indigo20, i used it myself several times and worked perfectly because this remover is really a "remover".

This is not an advertisement. Just help...

Hi icewind and thanks, I received indigo's stain remover a few days ago, and tried a little on the back of the dolls neck and also the back of the head.

Indigo's stain remover also leave these "stain marks" on the doll..

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I have contacted Star @ sm dolls and she is going to send me some of their own cream/paste or whatever it is they recommend and see how that works on the doll.

However it looks like thoses stains are there to stay

Thank you for taking an interest in this thread and for trying to help it's appriciated.

Samurai...

icewind · Post by **icewind** » Sun Mar 03, 2019 3:50 pm

Oh my god, that's really bad! But thank you for posting these pictures...

Did you tell Indigo about this strange behaviour? But now we know that both removers may have at least one similar ingredient...

Perhaps i can order some TPE pieces from SM-Doll to make some tests.

I wish you luck that the "new" remover works with your doll!