Additional explanation on concerned issues of the EXP skeleton

Post by **ZelexDoll** » Thu Apr 06, 2023 11:48 am

1. The launch of EXP skeleton is an extended version base on EVO skeleton, but not an replacement version. It was designed for meeting further requirements of customers regarding doll posture. Therefore, when purchasing ZELEX GIRLS, customers can choose between EVO or EXP skeleton.

2. Regarding the durability of the ball-joint that were concerned about, we are using high-end joints with adjustable torsion. Its design criteria are: the torque decay within 10% after 10,000 times twist, and further adjustment can be made even after torque reduction.

3. Adding double joint to the elbow part of skeleton is not a new technique. It is designed for a higher degree of arm bending angle, while ensuring that the doll still looks lifelike when the arm is bent. Moreover, the reason why we're not using gear skeleton is that double jointed structure tends to more stable comparing to gear structure after testing.

4. We deeply aware that a broken or loosened skeleton is a disastrous problem for customers. Therefore, We are very cautious when conducting research on the skeleton. Stability and durability of skeleton are always the top priority of our skeleton research. Furthermore, all our skeletons are produced by our own in order to ensure the quality of the skeleton is strictly monitored, and the production issues can be solved in time. Overall, the combination of our well established after-sales guarantee with strict quality-monitoring of production, strives for 100% confident purchase from our customers.

The ball joints used in the EXP skeleton:

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Socratus · Post by **Socratus** » Thu Apr 06, 2023 11:59 am

Good to know. A strong foundation is crucially important. The doll is no good if the skeleton is weak. I'll keep you guys in mind for my next purchase.

Johnbuhr · Post by **Johnbuhr** » Thu Apr 06, 2023 12:00 pm

Hello,

When you say 'we are using high-end joints with adjustable torsion', do you mean we can adjust them ourselves (after making a small incision)?
Are there some grub screws in those holes that we simply tighten with a HEX wrench?

Thanks.

RevJack · Post by **RevJack** » Thu Apr 06, 2023 1:16 pm

I have a love/hate relationship with ball joints, but let me say those are the bad-ass industrial quality torsioned ball joints I am in love with. Those are definitely not the cheap crap ball joints I have tried to fix through the ages. Well engineered, and @Johnbhur, I do believe the top allen screw adjusts the torsion in the joint.
If the rest of the skeleton is as well designed and thought out I can not wait to get my hands on one.

And I appreciate the hesitance to utilize gear-based joints if they cause long-term issues, most probably binding and pinching issues.

ZELLEX has my full attention, that's for sure.

Reverend Jack

seagull · Post by **seagull** » Thu Apr 06, 2023 5:45 pm

Yep, this sector is moving in the right direction

Pussy69 · Post by **Pussy69** » Thu Apr 06, 2023 6:04 pm

Very reassuring stuff to behold here. There have been few reports springing up about broken skeletons and that’s a scary situation when dropping over $2-$3,000 on love dolls. This is a great move to promote awareness and confidence to buyers. Thank you Zelex

Papasmurf1142 · Post by **Papasmurf1142** » Thu Apr 06, 2023 7:22 pm

Since your sister company is gamelady, would there be any likelihood of gamelady offering this skeleton with their dolls? And also, would we be required to pay more for a zelex doll that has this Skeleton, or will prices remain the same?

Post by **KKFun** » Fri Apr 07, 2023 1:44 am

ZELEX is progressing in the right direction, that part is for sure. Very well done.

Rollo62 · Post by **Rollo62** » Fri Apr 07, 2023 2:55 am

Finally, a serious attempt to build a good and long lasting skeleton. You have my attention!

Kindra · Post by **Kindra** » Fri Apr 07, 2023 11:15 am

I fully believe in Zelex as they have shown to have a top quality product and continuing to make improvements and with their dedication to craftsmanship and ability to listen to their customers. I can't wait to see what the future holds with Zelex as it can only get better imo.

MayTheFource · Post by **MayTheFource** » Wed Jun 07, 2023 12:19 pm

An EXP 170cm is coming to me. Will let you know how it goes.

TChris · Post by **TChris** » Wed Jun 07, 2023 12:22 pm

MayTheFource wrote: ↑Wed Jun 07, 2023 12:19 pm An EXP 170cm is coming to me. Will let you know how it goes.

Tight

Aerow · Post by **Aerow** » Wed Jun 21, 2023 9:23 pm

I just received my 165X with the new skeleton, sadly she did not survive shipping. The neck snapped off right at the base of the neck bolt socket. The neck is also jammed to the side, and i cannot get it straight by pulling on it, i have tried multiple directions and it wont move.

Attached some pics, waiting for my vendor to get back to me to see what they want to do.

I have poked about a bit where i can feel stuff and cant find the other end of the stem that snapped off. I don't want to damage it more in case the want it back. If i can find the other end eventually a repair may be possible with just drilling out the stem and tapping threads for a bolt. But this will depend on what they want me to do. So we shall wait and see.

Snowy Tabbert · Post by **Snowy Tabbert** » Wed Jun 21, 2023 10:23 pm

Aerow wrote: ↑Wed Jun 21, 2023 9:23 pm I just received my 165X with the new skeleton, sadly she did not survive shipping. The neck snapped off right at the base of the neck bolt socket. The neck is also jammed to the side, and i cannot get it straight by pulling on it, i have tried multiple directions and it wont move.

Attached some pics, waiting for my vendor to get back to me to see what they want to do.

I have poked about a bit where i can feel stuff and cant find the other end of the stem that snapped off. I don't want to damage it more in case the want it back. If i can find the other end eventually a repair may be possible with just drilling out the stem and tapping threads for a bolt. But this will depend on what they want me to do. So we shall wait and see.

I'm so sorry to hear that!

I believe a lot of us have been looking forward to a doll review with the EXP skeleton. (I wanna see at least one review before ordering a 170). I hope you'll get a proper solution/replacement/compensation. Zelex has quite good reputation in remediation. Take care for now and keep us posted.

P.S. They should have used a rather thick foam to protect the neck joint (below was the packaging of one of my dolls). Unfortunately, as shown in your first photo, the protective foam wasn't quite thick enough I'm afraid.

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Aerow · Post by **Aerow** » Thu Jun 22, 2023 5:14 am

Yeah I had the foam around the neck as well. It just seems that once the socket snapped off the doll shifted hard enough to bend the rest of the neck in a way to jam it up.

I found the other end of the broken shaft. But would need to cut the silicone to get to it. So just waiting on reply from vendor before I do something.