Do Male Dolls Look more Unreal

YungSynth · Post by **YungSynth** » Sun Apr 17, 2022 1:17 pm

I know there's plenty of strong females, I'm not trying to be sexist..

But wouldn't more masculine, I guess more "hunky" male dolls weigh way too much for the average woman to carry around? Unless the market only cares about gay men buying them, but then they're being sexist lol. They should probably spend more R&D on weight reduction without reducing quality, and try to make more of them look like manly men lol

I'm not in the market for one either, but the success of male dolls is actually equally important to the success of female dolls, check it out, if enough women own dolls, mainstream feminism will stop trying to ban dolls. Well, it's more complicated than that, but more female owners would greatly help all of us long-term. Doll makers need to take note of what women want in their dolls and apply the same care that they do for us.

seagull · Post by **seagull** » Sun Apr 17, 2022 4:22 pm

Increased doll acceptance in society would be very good for all owners, but get the feeling the haters will just stay that way regardless of social norms of acceptance

Luiskjr · Post by **Luiskjr** » Sun Apr 17, 2022 4:26 pm

i like shemales, females like any normal woman or doll but with a dick

If I build my harem one of them will certainly be a shemale, but as i said...beautiful as an WM doll

Mister Bungle 157 · Post by **Mister Bungle 157** » Sun Apr 17, 2022 4:51 pm

Luiskjr wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 4:41 pm
I understand your reasoning but I disagree.
And will explain in just ONE word: PHOTOSHOP

or a second word also tells it all: "makeup"

You see, women are trying to erase imperfections all the time. They look themselves in the mirror
and they know. Moles and warts? can be cute for a few, most of us don't like it. A witch shape nose? get corrective surgery.

blood veins, sun spots, varicose, celulite, stretch marks, carcinomas, black spots...you might find brave men that will happily take that. Not in general.

Lets move to breasts. And ass. The dream of every 18 year old is to shape these if they are not ideal.

If you refer to the Dolls with extravagant huge tits I agree those are a "fantasy" cartoonish to amuse the guys that crave this look. Again, most men don't
like it.

Even more in other countries.
America is known for preferring huge tits because its population deals with overweight in every family. You grew too big. Thus big tits becomes so common its a standard and men thru generations learn to like it.

In Europe, Asia, Africa and South American we reject big tits. We prefer medium size with puffy areoles.

The photoshop clean skin and other parameters are the future of mankind. Even males will be required to have same standards in future. Women are tired of ugly beasts. Thats why so many turn bisexual.

Doll has no imperfections. Its the ideal.

No woman is like a Doll, I agree.
But they try hard in that direction. We as partners accept their imperfections, because we know its part of life, but when it comes to "ideal"...its the baby skin, the baby eyes and sensual lips

This is a collection of some rather bizarre assertions in my opinion.

Luiskjr · Post by **Luiskjr** » Sun Apr 17, 2022 5:10 pm

Mankind is constant evolving since primates.
Esthetic parameters evolve also, helped by an increasing population and mix of races with travel, trade, etc.

A long way from the monkey to 2022

If you look at photos from the the XIX and early XX century, and you have sensible eye (not for everyone) improvements are noticeable.

7 billion people having intersex do the trick.
We might be bald, clean, androgens in the future?
who knows? Will there be just females and shemales? who knows, the invisible hand of evolution is taking us somewhere thru that little act of powdering your face or photoshopping your selfie

The force of the majority is huge.
Its my opinion, Dawin's, Harari, Asimov and many others. When an opinion hurt feelings, its said that Im asserting facts. Who cares, its just a post. Wanna believe if i mean opinion or facts wont change anything.

Im getting old too. Im just an observer in this planet.

And on the reason why I would like more male varieties, I repeat, the third gender is fantastic sexually and i would certainly own a doll shemale

gayboyloneliness · Post by **gayboyloneliness** » Mon Apr 18, 2022 12:49 am

Luiskjr wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 4:21 pm
gayboyloneliness wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 11:46 am Female dolls look pretty unrealistic sometimes too but you're somewhat right about today's beauty standards in terms of certain dolls facial features. Another part of the reason why male dolls look unrealistic is that the people making them don't really seem to understand that women and gay men tend to have different standards in appearance and are fine with something that looks like a regular guy without a sixpack and not a roided out femboy with caked on eyeliner.
absolutely right.
Male Dolls seem to target only one type of Gays
Many woman will laugh at these Bears.

The audience is vast. Many gays like males with female look. As do heterosexuals that fancy shemales.

And most women if looking for a Doll dont want matured men, (that they can get in real life) even a 30 year old for some is "old"

Like us (when we prefer 18yo) many women like "boys" the kind you see in Boy Bands or Justin Bieber when he was a teen

Nah actually I'm gay and prefer either older or bear like I'm actually tired of all the male dolls looking like young adults or only having older men's heads with perfect bodies. It bothers me how most male dolls are completely shredded or twinkish and I've only really seen one male doll (Jeff on spartan lover) with at the very least a normal sized stomach instead of abs or ribcage.

It bothers me that alot of male dolls are only these body types most men don't have and I've been wondering how long it'll take them to do an even mildly chubby doll or at the very least a doll with a realistic body type for an actual man.

I don't really fully look to dolls to fullfill my wildest fantasies of a beautiful model that will never exist and when I do its mostly subversion of gender expectations ie: muscular women or men with breasts.

At the very least I want them to start building dolls that are built like actual guys at the most I want them to start making dolls that bend the usual formula of makeupped boyband standin by making him ultra hairy and masc but giving him a vaginal insert or boobs.

I'm trans so y'know, Id like a doll that looks like me

The best they do for female trans dolls is a penis insert and that's only because "shemale" porn is something that's statistically been huge, with the other way around a male with a vagina it's not a whole porn category.

I know sex dolls are meant for sex so they're going to be idealized but it's a little disheartening to never see a doll that I could relate to, not as a fat man not as a trans man, it's all Adonises

seagull · Post by **seagull** » Mon Apr 18, 2022 4:56 pm

Yep, the doll industry is improving but not at the stage to cater for all preferences yet

Rowsdower · Post by **Rowsdower** » Mon Apr 18, 2022 5:50 pm

Ever since getting to know the doll community, I've always said: the first company to devote itself to making male dolls as realistic and diverse as those from the big female doll makers, and for roughly the same price, is going to make a fortune. There is definitely an untapped demand for them. There were times when I even entertained the notion of going into the business myself, but that's not practical. Someone somewhere has all the tools, skills, and facilities necessary to do this, they just need to make the decision to do so, and when they do, they will become very rich indeed.

Luiskjr · Post by **Luiskjr** » Mon Apr 18, 2022 6:21 pm

Dolls are like a nice restaurant.

Those who criticize doll owners for hanging with dolls that are perfect 20 year old beauties arguing that its unreal cause women have imperfections, and in any case aging men will never have access to that kind of league...

I say: "look, its like going to a nice restaurant"

The fact that you eat junk food most of the days, take-aways sitting in your couch and sharing food with your dog... doesnt mean that you cant take your family once in a while to an impressive restaurant and enjoy the evening eh?

I dont care if real people are full of imperfections, or she is too perfect for me. When it comes to fantasy for my entertainment and happiness I want the best of the best.

Post by **setevoltas** » Mon Apr 18, 2022 6:29 pm

In the few years since I've been around the improvement in female TPE face realism has been dramatic. If there's enough demand to keep the manufacturers interested, I'd expect to see the same thing happen with male faces.

muesky6969 · Post by **muesky6969** » Mon Apr 18, 2022 7:47 pm

Rowsdower wrote: ↑Mon Apr 18, 2022 5:50 pm Ever since getting to know the doll community, I've always said: the first company to devote itself to making male dolls as realistic and diverse as those from the big female doll makers, and for roughly the same price, is going to make a fortune. There is definitely an untapped demand for them. There were times when I even entertained the notion of going into the business myself, but that's not practical. Someone somewhere has all the tools, skills, and facilities necessary to do this, they just need to make the decision to do so, and when they do, they will become very rich indeed.

You are right, look at how Irontech has taken off. Their male dolls look a lot more realistic but they still have those over blown muscles and are heavy AF.. Like you, I have considered getting into the doll making industry, but there is no way I can compete with the factories in China, so I just modify dolls already made, to be closer to what I want them to be..

As for women's tastes in dolls, yeah the industry isn't listening.. Like a number of the guys on here, many of the women here would like dolls to be big, older and maybe just a little rough around the edges. It's just not what is offered. And even the ones that are close to that are too heavy for anyone to lift.

When I first started looking at getting a doll.. There was not even half the selection there is now and most of them were weird over-blown muscular twinks. You all have seen what I did to Xiel.. He was the oldest looking doll I could find at the time, and I still ended up having to age him up so he is closer to my age of 50. This summer I am going to age his face up a bit more. As mentioned on other threads more realistic male dolls that didn't weigh so much would be very appreciated.

YungSynth wrote: ↑Sun Apr 17, 2022 1:17 pm
I'm not in the market for one either, but the success of male dolls is actually equally important to the success of female dolls, check it out, if enough women own dolls, mainstream feminism will stop trying to ban dolls. Well, it's more complicated than that, but more female owners would greatly help all of us long-term. Doll makers need to take note of what women want in their dolls and apply the same care that they do for us.

So as a feminist and most of my women friends and my daughter are all feminist, I can tell you the only dolls any of us have issue with are the very young looking and child like dolls. That is one thing I really appreciate about TDF is that they don't allow people to post pictures of young dolls. This is not the case on other social media platforms and to be honest, I find younger and child dolls disturbing..

I am right there with you on the doll makers taking in consideration of what women want in dolls..

gayboyloneliness · Post by **gayboyloneliness** » Mon Apr 18, 2022 9:13 pm

muesky6969 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 18, 2022 7:47 pm
Rowsdower wrote: ↑Mon Apr 18, 2022 5:50 pm Ever since getting to know the doll community, I've always said: the first company to devote itself to making male dolls as realistic and diverse as those from the big female doll makers, and for roughly the same price, is going to make a fortune. There is definitely an untapped demand for them. There were times when I even entertained the notion of going into the business myself, but that's not practical. Someone somewhere has all the tools, skills, and facilities necessary to do this, they just need to make the decision to do so, and when they do, they will become very rich indeed.
You are right, look at how Irontech has taken off. Their male dolls look a lot more realistic but they still have those over blown muscles and are heavy AF.. Like you, I have considered getting into the doll making industry, but there is no way I can compete with the factories in China, so I just modify dolls already made, to be closer to what I want them to be..

As for women's tastes in dolls, yeah the industry isn't listening.. Like a number of the guys on here, many of the women here would like dolls to be big, older and maybe just a little rough around the edges. It's just not what is offered. And even the ones that are close to that are too heavy for anyone to lift.

When I first started looking at getting a doll.. There was not even half the selection there is now and most of them were weird over-blown muscular twinks. You all have seen what I did to Xiel.. He was the oldest looking doll I could find at the time, and I still ended up having to age him up so he is closer to my age of 50. This summer I am going to age his face up a bit more. As mentioned on other threads more realistic male dolls that didn't weigh so much would be very appreciated.

YungSynth wrote: ↑Sun Apr 17, 2022 1:17 pm
I'm not in the market for one either, but the success of male dolls is actually equally important to the success of female dolls, check it out, if enough women own dolls, mainstream feminism will stop trying to ban dolls. Well, it's more complicated than that, but more female owners would greatly help all of us long-term. Doll makers need to take note of what women want in their dolls and apply the same care that they do for us.
So as a feminist and most of my women friends and my daughter are all feminist, I can tell you the only dolls any of us have issue with are the very young looking and child like dolls. That is one thing I really appreciate about TDF is that they don't allow people to post pictures of young dolls. This is not the case on other social media platforms and to be honest, I find younger and child dolls disturbing..

I am right there with you on the doll makers taking in consideration of what women want in dolls..

I gotta say I've even seen a few male dolls that look like literal teenagers and it bothers me alot, I think that's the one thing all sellers should put a foot down on not catering to especially because entertaining it usually makes a pedo or an ephebophile want more than just a slab of plastic.

I'll put up with the huge h cup boobs Barbie waisted dolls so long as they look like grown women same with beefcake male dolls.

true_blue22 · Post by **true_blue22** » Tue Apr 19, 2022 6:08 am

[quote=Luiskjr post_id=2129765 time=1650073186 user_id=526242]

"Not that it matters. Im hetero, i like females. But..."

You should have stopped typing right after "but". You're into female dolls, so why should the appearance of male dolls matter to you? You stated "Not that if matters" so why even post these comments? Then there's:

"Women try to be like dolls...the art of being beautiful is to look less a human and more like a Doll." Um, NO. I highly doubt that women are putting on makeup so they can be like sex dolls. Women generally use makeup to enhance their appearance to their own satisfaction. Not to look like a female sex doll.

Did you know there are women who don't bother with makeup because they're too busy and don't have the time for it? I'm one of them. Then we're told:

"Hence, sex dolls are very realistic..." Oh, really? I can tell you that in my extensive online search for a male doll, I also saw PLENTY of female dolls that looked highly unrealistic. Impossibly tiny waists and some with tits that looked like beach balls. And fuckable nipples the size of baby bottles. Then there's this gem:

"...blood veins, sun spots, varicose, celulite, stretch marks, carcinomas, black spots...you might find brave men that will happily take that. Not in general." Wow, thanks for stating that men have to be "brave" to take on a woman with physical imperfections. I think any woman would be brave to take on a man with such a judgemental and superficial attitude.

Thanks for swinging in here on your vine like Tarzan to tell us ladies what we aspire to by using makeup - and that we try to be like sex dolls when we don't.

***TB22 drops the mic.***

true_blue22 · Post by **true_blue22** » Tue Apr 19, 2022 6:49 am

muesky6969 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 18, 2022 7:47 pm As for women's tastes in dolls, yeah the industry isn't listening.. Like a number of the guys on here, many of the women here would like dolls to be big, older and maybe just a little rough around the edges. It's just not what is offered. And even the ones that are close to that are too heavy for anyone to lift.

I'm convinced that the doll manufacturers really don't care about what women want, because we're the minority. We're given far less choice when it comes to the selection of extra heads to customize our dolls. (WM only makes 3 male heads that I know of.) I find it troubling that Irontech has chosen to make their dolls taller and therefore heavier. (Even more troubling because they understate the weight of their dolls.) Time and time again, us ladies state what we want in a male doll and we just get ignored. It's totally unfair. And it makes me angry.

PopTarts · Post by **PopTarts** » Tue Apr 19, 2022 9:24 am

true_blue22 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 19, 2022 6:08 am
Luiskjr wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 9:39 pm
"Not that it matters. Im hetero, i like females. But..."

You should have stopped typing right after "but". You're into female dolls, so why should the appearance of male dolls matter to you? You stated "Not that if matters" so why even post these comments? Then there's:

"Women try to be like dolls...the art of being beautiful is to look less a human and more like a Doll." Um, NO. I highly doubt that women are putting on makeup so they can be like sex dolls. Women generally use makeup to enhance their appearance to their own satisfaction. Not to look like a female sex doll. Did you know there are women who don't bother with makeup because they're too busy and don't have the time for it? I'm one of them. Then we're told:

"Hence, sex dolls are very realistic..." Oh, really? I can tell you that in my extensive online search for a male doll, I also saw PLENTY of female dolls that looked highly unrealistic. Impossibly tiny waists and some with tits that looked like beach balls. And fuckable nipples the size of baby bottles. Then there's this gem:

"...blood veins, sun spots, varicose, celulite, stretch marks, carcinomas, black spots...you might find brave men that will happily take that. Not in general." Wow, thanks for stating that men have to be "brave" to take on a woman with physical imperfections. I think any woman would be brave to take on a man with such a judgemental and superficial attitude.

Thanks for swinging in here on your vine like Tarzan to tell us ladies what we aspire to by using makeup - and that we try to be like sex dolls when we don't.

***TB22 drops the mic.***
Bravo!

(I felt like all of this deserves additional attention.)