How much weight is appropriate to reduce？

[SimonSays7]

Around 25-26kg would indeed be the ideal, but honestly anything below 30kg (including head) without compromising softness too much would be a job well done. Thats the key - not to compromise too much on the feel/softness of the doll. Obviously Tayu is the gold standard in the market now that all other manufacturers should be aspiring to (which is why they can command such a high price). If I were a doll manufacturer these days I'd get my hands on a Tayu model just to take it apart and work out how its built so well and also try to copy the excellent LHP. The first competitor thats able to do this and then undercut them is going to make serious bank.

Totally hear you! Although SM's weight-reduced efforts are supposedly soft, and a lot less expensive? I honestly don't know, but I thought SM doesn’t use those hard foam lightweight cores that many other companies use for weight reduction. (WM, Starpery, Xelex, JY?)

Tayu may well be "the gold standard" for soft, weight reduced dolls, but the expense is not their only drawback: they are perhaps mostly focussed on a domestic market. I love their busty 155K, except for the fact that it has a very flat butt. Also, too many of their heads look like teenagers with puffy eyes that have just been crying. I don't know if "crying teen" is the intended effect, but that's how it looks to me. Even if I liked that look, which I absolutely do not, I would have challenges explaining it to any woman in my life, and it might set off alarms at customs.

Finally, their stated Net weight for this 155k is an excellent 27kg / 60lb. (without additional "soft" options) But at least in the past, Tayu has not achieved their target weight in the manufacturing process. And of course, if a doll were delivered at 1-3K above what they claimed, I'd probably just keep it, but feel like I overpaid for a premium product that failed to deliver.

For a brand to develop a good reputation, they need to be honest. Some folks have suggested: "They all exaggerate; you just have to do your research." Utter nonsense. They have to weigh them to ship them. If a maker doesn't reach their target weight, they should inform the buyer before they ship.

Knowing who is worthy of our trust and who is not is the very purpose of a forum like this. I believe that Tayu has addressed this issue recently.

[4891d]

On your site you have pretty dolls nicely photographed, but it's impossible to find essential information like weight and measurements (apart from height). An update would be welcome.

To be competitive, I think your 157cm and 158cm models should be under 30kg and your 150cm model should be under 25kg. Given the silhouettes of your dolls this weight/volume ratio (roughly evaluated since I couldn't find the measurements) would place you in the group of 6 or 7 manufacturers who are innovative in this area. To join the top three you would have to remove another 5 kg.
Your 162 cm between 25 and 30 kg would already be a very good performance.

[nox2doll]

This seems to have been realized. The doll industry is paired with the technology industry, and some technology companies are already doing it.

Good and while that happens, make it stronger. The weight is not an issue, weak joins are..

[DollCommander]

As low as possible. TAYU is wildly popular because of their extremely low weights.

True enough but their twisted wrists are awful!

Wha doll is 21kg? Asking for a friend.

Tayu is popular in theory, but where are all the dolls? Seems like there is alot of interest, but not a whole lot of actual buyers. Imo they are too expensive for the materials issues they have, lack of variety and/or appealing head and body designs etc.

[XTDoll]

XT has reduced weight reduction process,XTdoll will undergo weight reduction treatment before shipping , The larger the doll, the more effective the reduced weight.

[SimonSays7]

As low as possible. TAYU is wildly popular because of their extremely low weights. Weight is THE obstacle in this hobby. I myself prefer dolls 21kg and under.

True enough but their twisted wrists are awful!

I personally wouldn’t let that stop me, if I wanted a Tayu. I don’t care much about wrists, or hands for that matter. They’re not part of the sexual attraction, to me.

I wish they made dolls with fused fingers, just to keep the hands simple, instead of fingers pointing wildly off in all directions.

I’d feel differently if I were a doll photographer. But I’m not, I’m a doll boinker.

[nox2doll]

My opinion is that no less than 25.. the weight make things more real..

Something like 45 would be best weight.. but a doll should walk by itself (assisted by the owner).

[Lee_XTdoll]

We have witnessed a lot of efforts made by many factories to break through the project of ultra-lightweight dolls, but the extremely high scrap rate has made many factories withdraw from the research of this project.

[Lee_XTdoll]

On your site you have pretty dolls nicely photographed, but it's impossible to find essential information like weight and measurements (apart from height). An update would be welcome.

To be competitive, I think your 157cm and 158cm models should be under 30kg and your 150cm model should be under 25kg. Given the silhouettes of your dolls this weight/volume ratio (roughly evaluated since I couldn't find the measurements) would place you in the group of 6 or 7 manufacturers who are innovative in this area. To join the top three you would have to remove another 5 kg.
Your 162 cm between 25 and 30 kg would already be a very good performance.

Thank you

[DollCommander]

Low weight is great as long as quality and durability doesn't suffer. So far all weight reduced dolls that I am aware of have additional issues beyond their non weight reduced versions and/or non weight reduced dolls in general. Weight reduction should be an option, not the default and only option because the downsides are real and very significant in many cases.

[Lee_XTdoll]

On your site you have pretty dolls nicely photographed, but it's impossible to find essential information like weight and measurements (apart from height). An update would be welcome.

To be competitive, I think your 157cm and 158cm models should be under 30kg and your 150cm model should be under 25kg. Given the silhouettes of your dolls this weight/volume ratio (roughly evaluated since I couldn't find the measurements) would place you in the group of 6 or 7 manufacturers who are innovative in this area. To join the top three you would have to remove another 5 kg.
Your 162 cm between 25 and 30 kg would already be a very good performance.

I would like to know which doll factories are the top 3? This will give me motivation to break through it.

[DollCommander]

On your site you have pretty dolls nicely photographed, but it's impossible to find essential information like weight and measurements (apart from height). An update would be welcome.

To be competitive, I think your 157cm and 158cm models should be under 30kg and your 150cm model should be under 25kg. Given the silhouettes of your dolls this weight/volume ratio (roughly evaluated since I couldn't find the measurements) would place you in the group of 6 or 7 manufacturers who are innovative in this area. To join the top three you would have to remove another 5 kg.
Your 162 cm between 25 and 30 kg would already be a very good performance.

I would like to know which doll factories are the top 3? This will give me motivation to break through it.

Top 3 in what category? Is weight the only consideration? To most, it is not. Overall quality, durability, reliability, aesthetics, silicone softness etc. are other factors that should be considered. Many of these "top" light weight doll manufacturers are undoubtedly not the "top" in other categories.

To be competitive the doll must perform in areas other than weight alone. I'd say that within reason, weight is the lowest of priorities to most customers in the long term. In other words; if a doll is incredibly light but is plagued with quality issues early in the life cycle, then the manufacturers reputation will suffer long term and they will be unlikely to secure significant sales in the future to anyone who doesn't prioritize weight over all else (the minority).

A 160+ cm doll at 25 kg will undoubtedly be significantly compromised in proportions/aesthetics at a minimum and very likely in durability, softness, useability etc.

T**u is popular in theory. Theoretically in the "top 3" in regards to weight to size (height exclusively), but certainly not "top 3" in sales, or even in the top 10 for that matter.

I think the best answer is to offer high quality standard weight dolls with weight reduction as an option not the default, for those willing to take the risk and accept the known downsides.

[crazedcat]

For me personally anything over 30kg is out of the question. I’m in good shape and can handle heavy stuff but I don’t WANT to handle heavy stuff when it comes to this: moving, positioning, posing, etc.

[Lee_XTdoll]

162G silicone 1.0 super weight reduction version has been produced, but the weight is 32kg, although it did not enter 30kg, but the softness of its various parts is very good, which still makes me happy. I will continue to innovate it.

[SimonSays7]

162G silicone 1.0 super weight reduction version has been produced, but the weight is 32kg, although it did not enter 30kg, but the softness of its various parts is very good, which still makes me happy. I will continue to innovate it.

Good work! 32kg is pretty great for a buxom 162cm. By the way, you have your 162cm listed as 5',3" but 162 cm is closer to 5' 4".(5 Feet, 3.7795 Inches) The imperial system is ridiculous, though, lol.

https://xtdoll.com/index.php/product/everleigh/