Very STRONG WARNING not to buy ebay, alibaba or aliexpress

GOTE · Post by **GOTE** » Mon Sep 28, 2020 2:29 pm

Kira-sama wrote:
swimmingpool wrote:ha i am glad i came here to check i saw these and though hey it seems the prices have dropped a bit since covid..... i was almost thinking of getting a second doll, but i'll probably go with TDF vendors now. Thanks for the warning
Don't be afraid of Alibaba/AliExpress. Be afraid of the scammers on there. I've gotten two AF Dolls straight from the manufacturer using Alibaba and they were overall well-made. If you know who you're buying from, you can save a few hundred dollars by buying directly (most of the time).

I just can approve that too.

PnhlKmr · Post by **PnhlKmr** » Fri Nov 20, 2020 10:22 am

newd0ll0wner wrote: So i took the gamble once again. Because its my first Doll and now i knew, you don't get a new quality doll under 1000$, i searched for a torso/half doll.
300$ shipped express sounds not so bad? Normally, shipping express to my Country, will cost over 200$.
Ordered friday and today arrived this:
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Cant compare to other dolls, but cant complain for 200$.

If someone wants, i PM him/her the seller. But no guarantee, you do t get screwed.

Got:
- 85cm/24kg half doll, with skeleton, head included
- Very Soft TPE
- Anatomaly correct
- Wig and other accessories
- The doll is a bit oily. I dont know what other manufacturer uses, but from the smell, i would bet its mineral oil.
Someone knows it? It Safe to only wash it, or is the Mineral oil so bad? Wont use it for now withouth condom...

Hi,
can you PM the seller where you bought your torso. I might be interested.
Thank you

bootslicker · Post by **bootslicker** » Fri Nov 27, 2020 8:50 am

Hello Guys!
I need a advice!
I'm really struggling to buy this doll that is really driving me crazy..
https://de.aliexpress.com/item/32822010906.html
I see that there is a debate on this thread about this manufacturer "KNETSCH"
what I would like to to know is what I have to expect if I proceed
buying it, I'd like to purchase this doll standard as showed in picture.
Please help me!!

Thank You!!

haremlover · Post by **haremlover** » Fri Nov 27, 2020 5:55 pm

Hmmm . . .

Those photos are heavily professional, very expertly lit and the doll you get is extremely unlikely to look quite like that.

At $495 with free shipping from China for instance to UK paying a small supplement for Fedex or UPS I really don't think the veracity of this seller is greatly credible. I'd expect the true shipping cost to be more than is stated for the doll itself.

If you can gamble that amount, perhaps it's not a lot and you might enjoy a flutter. But I suspect that you've gone nuts over the doll on account of the photography and not the doll. When she arrives I wouldn't be surprised to see posts from you with buyer's remorse.

The 165-166 dolls feature photos including one recognisably by Mandos so this will be a WM doll as photographed. Goodness knows what you'll receive but it won't be a genuine WM. Even if the knockoff is good looking, the photos don't show what the skeleton's going to be like. And a doll with faulty skeleton is a real pain.

Best wishes

Harem

bootslicker · Post by **bootslicker** » Sat Nov 28, 2020 10:39 am

haremlover wrote:Hmmm . . .

Those photos are heavily professional, very expertly lit and the doll you get is extremely unlikely to look quite like that.

At $495 with free shipping from China for instance to UK paying a small supplement for Fedex or UPS I really don't think the veracity of this seller is greatly credible. I'd expect the true shipping cost to be more than is stated for the doll itself.

If you can gamble that amount, perhaps it's not a lot and you might enjoy a flutter. But I suspect that you've gone nuts over the doll on account of the photography and not the doll. When she arrives I wouldn't be surprised to see posts from you with buyer's remorse.

The 165-166 dolls feature photos including one recognisably by Mandos so this will be a WM doll as photographed. Goodness knows what you'll receive but it won't be a genuine WM. Even if the knockoff is good looking, the photos don't show what the skeleton's going to be like. And a doll with faulty skeleton is a real pain.

Best wishes

Harem

Thank You Haremlover!
As You already understand I really like this doll,
I don't know if here on the forum can see some user post some picture of the doll buyed from this seller.
there is one here on this thread some page ago but I can't see how good it is.

haremlover · Post by **haremlover** » Sat Nov 28, 2020 1:46 pm

I don't think you're going to get this particular doll from this seller. Having seen a Mandos photo on the site it's likely to be a WM. Look for the doll on the WM site and or ask a vendor local to you. Many vendors are very expert and will recognise it.

It might also be a JY as they are also selling JY dolls with photos originally from another manufacturer name which escapes me at the moment.

I rate the chances of the doll being shown there being the doll you're going to get at no more than 30% and if so the chances of it not being a reject are probably 20%. That's why, or at least one reason why, these dolls aren't being sold under their reputable manufacturer's branding.

Best wishes

Harem

bootslicker · Post by **bootslicker** » Sat Nov 28, 2020 2:42 pm

Haremlover Thank You for guide me.
I think to have found her here on WM.
http://wmdollshop.com/55-ft-166cm-with-159-head/
it seems the same but I have to found her.

haremlover · Post by **haremlover** » Sat Nov 28, 2020 4:40 pm

Hmmm . . .

The price on Alibaba is lower than Jinsan make available to vendors and so it is absolutely impossible that that doll can be genuine from that source. If it's a knockoff, then the composition of the TPE is a concern and sometimes TPE from non-TDF accredited companies such as here http://www.uklovedollforums.co.uk/forum ... hp?t=14426 brings the pain even if the knockoff is looking wonderful . . . but actually being useless.

I think $2800 for a TPE doll is a bit much. Many silicone dolls compete at that price and less. For me at less than $2200 http://www.xycolo.net/pd.jsp?id=162#_pp=135_579 there's no comparison. https://coverdoll.com/drupal/node/3169

So it's really sensible to look at genuine dolls from known genuine sources. If you're rich enough that money doesn't matter, then buying a cheapo with the risk of her being a dud might be fine. But if being disappointed will be disastrous, it will rob you of money that otherwise would contribute to a good doll.

Best wishes

Harem

Kira-sama · Post by **Kira-sama** » Sat Nov 28, 2020 7:55 pm

haremlover wrote:Hmmm . . .

The price on Alibaba is lower than Jinsan make available to vendors and so it is absolutely impossible that that doll can be genuine from that source.

Best wishes

Harem

This isn't correct. I've bought two YL Dolls (148cm fantasy and the new 141cm, both in a custom color) straight from Eric and both were less than $1300.

haremlover · Post by **haremlover** » Sun Nov 29, 2020 1:14 am

Welcome to Beijing fog. That's not what vendors tell me.

Best wishes

Harem

Kira-sama · Post by **Kira-sama** » Mon Nov 30, 2020 9:31 pm

haremlover wrote:Welcome to Beijing fog. That's not what vendors tell me.

Best wishes

Harem

If you talk to directly to the manufacturer, you will see that the prices are much lower (few hundred dollars) 99% of the time (one time it was $25-$50 difference) than what a vendor offers.

Fantastic Plastic · Post by **Fantastic Plastic** » Sat Dec 05, 2020 8:35 pm

Yeah, I could enter this pissing match.
But not here. Not now..
:haha4:

Nederlander · Post by **Nederlander** » Wed Dec 09, 2020 9:41 am

bootslicker wrote:Hello Guys!
I need a advice!
I'm really struggling to buy this doll that is really driving me crazy..
https://de.aliexpress.com/item/32822010906.html
I see that there is a debate on this thread about this manufacturer "KNETSCH"
what I would like to to know is what I have to expect if I proceed
buying it, I'd like to purchase this doll standard as showed in picture.
Please help me!!

Thank You!!

I bought from this seller (Knetsch) just to try and see what quality you can get for cheap (was around 250 euro's for a small 100cm doll in the end so I didn't expect much). The doll I received was the same model sort of, but the quality is subpar with very loose joints (can't stand up without collapsing) and the TPE smell is very chemical. After complaining they didn't do anything so I was stuck with it. Even after airing it out for weeks there's still a strong smell to it which isn't great if you just have a doll sitting around, but if you just looking for the sex part it can work if you store it away after. So don't expect a 1500 dollar doll for a third of the price I would say, they just sell fakes with lower quality materials. After this one I bought another doll from a TDF approved vendor and one of the main differences was I got to see the doll before it was sent and the seller actually spoke English and gave way better customer service.

Nederlander · Post by **Nederlander** » Wed Dec 09, 2020 9:47 am

bootslicker wrote:Haremlover Thank You for guide me.
I think to have found her here on WM.
http://wmdollshop.com/55-ft-166cm-with-159-head/
it seems the same but I have to found her.

I'd suggest buying it from here (legit vendor on the forum) https://reallovesexdolls.com/5ft5-166cm-c-cup-rocket/ you can get a 20% discount untill the end of the year it will be 1663,2 dollars or around 1400 euro's. You can also try other vendors ofcourse if you want to compare prices.

bootslicker · Post by **bootslicker** » Sun Dec 13, 2020 12:29 pm

Nederlander wrote:
bootslicker wrote:Haremlover Thank You for guide me.
I think to have found her here on WM.
http://wmdollshop.com/55-ft-166cm-with-159-head/
it seems the same but I have to found her.
I'd suggest buying it from here (legit vendor on the forum) https://reallovesexdolls.com/5ft5-166cm-c-cup-rocket/ you can get a 20% discount untill the end of the year it will be 1663,2 dollars or around 1400 euro's. You can also try other vendors ofcourse if you want to compare prices.

Thank You nerlander but I thibnk is better here
https://www.joylovedolls.com/products/e ... 9961899102
at this point, I have read somewhere here that they are official VM Dolls reseller.