Dating A Love Doll In Japan | NBC Left Field

[Jussi]

Dating A Love Doll In Japan | NBC Left Field
Japan's unmarried population is at a record high. While the culture of staying single persists, some Japanese men are finding love in alternative ways: like dating fake love dolls. Dating a love doll isn't just about physical satisfaction; courtship plays a role, too. To some men, these dolls aren't plastic and rubber; they're family.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u8P_BWk27SY

[Socratus]

I saw another vid like this about 5 years ago when the idea of a doll first came to my attention. I was like the typical "WTF??" sort of guy.

Well things changed, I changed as I researched it.

One thing I like about Asia, the Japanese and Chinese, etc, is they understand men and his natural sexual needs wheras the West today is very cruel to its men and refuses to really understand his sexual needs, even other Western men will be cruel to Western men on this, not only women. Suffer and die, but don't DARE have, or love, a doll, western man! Anyone wonder why suicide among men is so great today in the west?

Sorry to be so bleak. Good video.

[n3o7]

One thing I like about Asia, the Japanese and Chinese, etc, is they understand men and his natural sexual needs wheras the West today is very cruel to its men and refuses to really understand his sexual needs, even other Western men will be cruel to Western men on this, not only women. Suffer and die, but don't DARE have, or love, a doll, western man! Anyone wonder why suicide among men is so great today in the west?

Based on the photos Coeros posted, there have been sex dolls exhibitions in China, which means they have accepted that this is part of their lives now.

Do it here and it will probably gets politicized, probably you'll have another round of fighting between Republicans vs Democrats, one side to ban sex dolls entirely while the other side would try to teach children about sex dolls.

People in Asia seem more accepting, they even embrace and celebrate them ladyboys in Thailand.

[Socratus]

Based on the photos Coeros posted, there have been sex dolls exhibitions in China, which means they have accepted that this is part of their lives now.

Do it here and it will probably gets politicized, probably you'll have another round of fighting between Republicans vs Democrats, one side to ban sex dolls entirely while the other side would try to teach children about sex dolls.

People in Asia seem more accepting, they even embrace and celebrate them ladyboys in Thailand.

The thing is, the Asians still manage to stay traditional. They don't go extreme one way or the other, and if they do, it stays private, while we in the West just seem to go crazy. I mean I envy their comics, whole walls filled with great comic characters, sexy or no, adult or no, for adults- it's a massive industry, with all kinds of topics (Japan), and their crimes rate are so low. Freedom, yet discipline. I'd love to work for them.

Maybe I still will.

[Kandicaine]

One thing I like about Asia, the Japanese and Chinese, etc, is they understand men and his natural sexual needs wheras the West today is very cruel to its men and refuses to really understand his sexual needs, even other Western men will be cruel to Western men on this, not only women. Suffer and die, but don't DARE have, or love, a doll, western man! Anyone wonder why suicide among men is so great today in the west?

Patriarchy and toxic masculinity. Men are ridiculed as failures for not being sexually domineering. Emotional needs of men are ridiculed as weakness and ignored. Femininity in “men” is exactly the same, whether it’s trans women, gay men, or anyone who just doesn’t fit gender norms and it’s perpetuated by men and women alike. Helps even less we have an entire generation being brought up by grifters like Tate who are continuing to perpetuate toxic masculinity, reducing men to wallow alone in superficial materialism.

[Socratus]

One thing I like about Asia, the Japanese and Chinese, etc, is they understand men and his natural sexual needs wheras the West today is very cruel to its men and refuses to really understand his sexual needs, even other Western men will be cruel to Western men on this, not only women. Suffer and die, but don't DARE have, or love, a doll, western man! Anyone wonder why suicide among men is so great today in the west?

Patriarchy and toxic masculinity. Men are ridiculed as failures for not being sexually domineering. Emotional needs of men are ridiculed as weakness and ignored. Femininity in “men” is exactly the same, whether it’s trans women, gay men, or anyone who just doesn’t fit gender norms and it’s perpetuated by men and women alike. Helps even less we have an entire generation being brought up by grifters like Tate who are continuing to perpetuate toxic masculinity, reducing men to wallow alone in superficial materialism.

I would've replied sooner but been away. Disagree.
Everything you've said there is from a feminist misandric point of view. Not a male point of view.

Females have their own `toxicity`, they have their own standards, not put on them by men, but by women themselves. So men should just swap his masculine `toxicity' for her feminine 'toxicity'? I don't think so.

Believe it or not, most men actually LIKE being men. Only men who have been indoctrinated into thinking like women will deny their instinctive masculine character that they should be proud of and would be if Western modern Society spent its time propping up the good masculine qualities of men instead of constantly demeaning them.

Also men know emotion, but not female over-the-top emotion- that's for women. They had support once from Society, but now are attacked for being masculine instead of being like an emotional woman which men are not. Too much female emotion leads to problems and mistakes and is uncontrolled. Men's emotions are controlled by nature; a survival need to keep going when everyone's losing it. He is not meant to be over-emotional like a woman. That calmness and stoicness of men has all but been destroyed by modern Western feminist society. In fact women don't even want men to be more emotional than her no matter what she might publicly say.

Men do have emotions, but it is different.He does not need to be emotional like a woman, just supported. Society isn't supporting him.

This is why men are killing themselves. Their pride in being men and masculine has been denigrated.You cannot do that without dire consequences, but mainstream Society does not care. Yet.

Look at the stats in the past 50 years- it has become worse as society has been feminised, not better.

[Pussy69]

I’m not sure how Japan got to the population state its in. My guess would be the stricter law system considering they have to censor porno and any form of cheating can send you to jail. You guys do have a point about homosexuality in Japan, It’s definitely a private matter there. There’s absolutely no noise of the matter compared to Western countries.

Tho this issue halting population could be the modern tech and stress reliving businesses. It’s gotten to a point where they rely on AI dating apps or hire women to keep men company. Dolls are fitting in that scenario perfectly as well.

[Kandicaine]

One thing I like about Asia, the Japanese and Chinese, etc, is they understand men and his natural sexual needs wheras the West today is very cruel to its men and refuses to really understand his sexual needs, even other Western men will be cruel to Western men on this, not only women. Suffer and die, but don't DARE have, or love, a doll, western man! Anyone wonder why suicide among men is so great today in the west?

Patriarchy and toxic masculinity. Men are ridiculed as failures for not being sexually domineering. Emotional needs of men are ridiculed as weakness and ignored. Femininity in “men” is exactly the same, whether it’s trans women, gay men, or anyone who just doesn’t fit gender norms and it’s perpetuated by men and women alike. Helps even less we have an entire generation being brought up by grifters like Tate who are continuing to perpetuate toxic masculinity, reducing men to wallow alone in superficial materialism.

I would've replied sooner but been away. Disagree.
Everything you've said there is from a feminist misandric point of view. Not a male point of view.

Females have their own `toxicity`, they have their own standards, not put on them by men, but by women themselves. So men should just swap his masculine `toxicity' for her feminine 'toxicity'? I don't think so.

Believe it or not, most men actually LIKE being men. Only men who have been indoctrinated into thinking like women will deny their instinctive masculine character that they should be proud of and would be if Western modern Society spent its time propping up the good masculine qualities of men instead of constantly demeaning them.

Also men know emotion, but not female over-the-top emotion- that's for women. They had support once from Society, but now are attacked for being masculine instead of being like an emotional woman which men are not. Too much female emotion leads to problems and mistakes and is uncontrolled. Men's emotions are controlled by nature; a survival need to keep going when everyone's losing it. He is not meant to be over-emotional like a woman. That calmness and stoicness of men has all but been destroyed by modern Western feminist society. In fact women don't even want men to be more emotional than her no matter what she might publicly say.

Men do have emotions, but it is different.He does not need to be emotional like a woman, just supported. Society isn't supporting him.

This is why men are killing themselves. Their pride in being men and masculine has been denigrated.You cannot do that without dire consequences, but mainstream Society does not care. Yet.

Look at the stats in the past 50 years- it has become worse as society has been feminised, not better.

Men being men isn’t toxic masculinity. Men being told that their only value lies in what others imaginary version of what a “man” and “masculinity” is and expectations that come with that is what toxic masculinity is and this is something perpetuated by men and women alike. Feminism is irrelevant to the equation, toxic masculinity and a patriarchal status quo exist regardless. It’s in every facet of society. You are born to work and die and that’s the only value you have to a patriarchal world and it’s you versus everyone else in a race to the top to be the sigma chad.

We literally play with dolls, you can’t seriously sit here and tell me that this aligns with what most people stereotype as “masculinity”. It’s because of a rejection of toxic masculinity that we can be here and be comfortable and happy with this hobby.

It’s these expectations that have led to rising suicide rates along with an overall decline in quality of life. It’s because men can’t be themselves, they’re lost, because they’re expected to be something else by everyone else for everyone else instead of themselves. That isn’t feminism.

“ West today is very cruel to its men and refuses to really understand his sexual needs, even other Western men will be cruel to Western men on this, not only women. Suffer and die, but don't DARE have, or love, a doll, western man”

We literally agree, but you’re directing your attention to the wrong thing. That isn’t a symptom of feminism. That’s a symptom of toxic masculinity and patriarchy. Things weren’t better 50 years ago because there was less feminism. Things were better 50 years ago because we weren’t being completely crushed under the boot of capitalism and corporations.

[carbohvdrates]

Kandicaine is out here making the posts that I'm too much prone to sighing wearily as I doomscroll read some threads around here to make myself. You're so right and you should fucking say it.

[Socratus]

One thing I like about Asia, the Japanese and Chinese, etc, is they understand men and his natural sexual needs wheras the West today is very cruel to its men and refuses to really understand his sexual needs, even other Western men will be cruel to Western men on this, not only women. Suffer and die, but don't DARE have, or love, a doll, western man! Anyone wonder why suicide among men is so great today in the west?

Patriarchy and toxic masculinity. Men are ridiculed as failures for not being sexually domineering. Emotional needs of men are ridiculed as weakness and ignored. Femininity in “men” is exactly the same, whether it’s trans women, gay men, or anyone who just doesn’t fit gender norms and it’s perpetuated by men and women alike. Helps even less we have an entire generation being brought up by grifters like Tate who are continuing to perpetuate toxic masculinity, reducing men to wallow alone in superficial materialism.

I would've replied sooner but been away. Disagree.
Everything you've said there is from a feminist misandric point of view. Not a male point of view.

Females have their own `toxicity`, they have their own standards, not put on them by men, but by women themselves. So men should just swap his masculine `toxicity' for her feminine 'toxicity'? I don't think so.

Believe it or not, most men actually LIKE being men. Only men who have been indoctrinated into thinking like women will deny their instinctive masculine character that they should be proud of and would be if Western modern Society spent its time propping up the good masculine qualities of men instead of constantly demeaning them.

Also men know emotion, but not female over-the-top emotion- that's for women. They had support once from Society, but now are attacked for being masculine instead of being like an emotional woman which men are not. Too much female emotion leads to problems and mistakes and is uncontrolled. Men's emotions are controlled by nature; a survival need to keep going when everyone's losing it. He is not meant to be over-emotional like a woman. That calmness and stoicness of men has all but been destroyed by modern Western feminist society. In fact women don't even want men to be more emotional than her no matter what she might publicly say.

Men do have emotions, but it is different.He does not need to be emotional like a woman, just supported. Society isn't supporting him.

This is why men are killing themselves. Their pride in being men and masculine has been denigrated.You cannot do that without dire consequences, but mainstream Society does not care. Yet.

Look at the stats in the past 50 years- it has become worse as society has been feminised, not better.

Men being men isn’t toxic masculinity. Men being told that their only value lies in what others imaginary version of what a “man” and “masculinity” is and expectations that come with that is what toxic masculinity is and this is something perpetuated by men and women alike. Feminism is irrelevant to the equation, toxic masculinity and a patriarchal status quo exist regardless. It’s in every facet of society. You are born to work and die and that’s the only value you have to a patriarchal world and it’s you versus everyone else in a race to the top to be the sigma chad.

You mix up so many terms that while I agree on one or two, I do not agree with the others, and I really can't be bothered to take each word and sentence apart to explain it to you.

We literally play with dolls, you can’t seriously sit here and tell me that this aligns with what most people stereotype as “masculinity”. It’s because of a rejection of toxic masculinity that we can be here and be comfortable and happy with this hobby.

I played with my Action man as a kid. Loved it. No one told me I shouldn't cos it was `toxic`. In fact I'm sick of this `toxic masculinity` you keep using. there is no such thing. Get your mindset out of that. It make it difficult to confer with you.

And as for dolls for adults, BOTH men and women try to shame us for them, in many cases women try to shame men more than men do. It is not a `toxic masculinity` thing. Again this is how much you see only wrong in men, but none in women bias you have.

It’s these expectations that have led to rising suicide rates along with an overall decline in quality of life. It’s because men can’t be themselves, they’re lost, because they’re expected to be something else by everyone else for everyone else instead of themselves. That isn’t feminism.

No. It's feminism and the bashing of men for 90% of suicides that's why the rate increases as feminism gains power. And since you only seem to love using the word `toxic` I'll call it `toxic feminism`.

“ West today is very cruel to its men and refuses to really understand his sexual needs, even other Western men will be cruel to Western men on this, not only women. Suffer and die, but don't DARE have, or love, a doll, western man”

We literally agree, but you’re directing your attention to the wrong thing. That isn’t a symptom of feminism. That’s a symptom of toxic masculinity and patriarchy. Things weren’t better 50 years ago because there was less feminism. Things were better 50 years ago because we weren’t being completely crushed under the boot of capitalism and corporations.

At least we agree on something, a tiny bit, but it's not masculinity or even the 'patriarchy', it's feminism and the push of everything to favor women while denigrating and bashing men unless they bow and become feminine.That is what's killing men.

Men used to be far more understanding of men than you think. This is why we had PRIVATE men's clubs. Boy scouts just for boys, etc, etc. Once upon a time men could talk as men (about anything including women), unfettered by women, be in men's groups and have a comaraderie (now only women can their private groups).

Anywhere he tries to get together as a group in the West he is dealt as a `toxic masculine' (that term you love using) threat and a woman must be in there to keep a watch on him. Men cannot be truly themselves when a woman is there; the atmos will always change to accomodate her.

Men have nowhere to turn to to be men. It's women today that have turned men into attacking eachother to suit women which is even worse now than ever before.

Hence men who just wish to be men have only their jobs to have any pride in, not themselves as men, and when they lose that become alone, desperate, feel useless and eventually top themselves.

Toxic feminism in Society today drove men to this, not masculinity. Masculinity helps men to power through, but that's being take away from him leaving him with nothing.

I'm not surprised you won't see this, many won't cos few truly care about a man's lot today since all the focus is on only women while no one cares about suicidal men.

Anyway I'm done here with this. It's clearly not gonna get anywhere, as usual and I don't have time or inclination to go into any more detail. Let Nature eventually prove the truth.

[Kandicaine]

At least we agree on something, a tiny bit, but it's not masculinity or even the 'patriarchy', it's feminism and the push of everything to favor women while denigrating and bashing men unless they bow and become feminine.That is what's killing men.

Men used to be far more understanding of men than you think. This is why we had PRIVATE men's clubs. Boy scouts just for boys, etc, etc. Once upon a time men could talk as men (about anything including women), unfettered by women, be in men's groups and have a comaraderie (now only women can their private groups).

Anywhere he tries to get together as a group in the West he is dealt as a `toxic masculine' (that term you love using) threat and a woman must be in there to keep a watch on him. Men cannot be truly themselves when a woman is there; the atmos will always change to accomodate her.

Men have nowhere to turn to to be men. It's women today that have turned men into attacking eachother to suit women which is even worse now than ever before.

Hence men who just wish to be men have only their jobs to have any pride in, not themselves as men, and when they lose that become alone, desperate, feel useless and eventually top themselves.

Toxic feminism in Society today drove men to this, not masculinity. Masculinity helps men to power through, but that's being take away from him leaving him with nothing.

I'm not surprised you won't see this, many won't cos few truly care about a man's lot today since all the focus is on only women while no one cares about suicidal men.

Anyway I'm done here with this. It's clearly not gonna get anywhere, as usual and I don't have time or inclination to go into any more detail. Let Nature eventually prove the truth.

My dad killed himself, I’m much closer with suicide than most, don’t sit here and try and tell me you know why men kill themselves, that it’s because of feminism, when I’ve witnessed it myself, when I’ve lived it myself. You know nothing of masculinity and simply wish to blame women for your problems. I NEVER once saw my father cry, and he didn’t leave a note when he killed himself. He never told anyone what he felt. Nobody knew. He was just dead one day. THAT is toxic masculinity.

“Men have nowhere to turn to to be men. It's women today that have turned men into attacking eachother to suit women which is even worse now than ever before”

Most of us on this forum are men and I’m sorry if you think not being a part of the red pill echo chamber isn’t supporting you, but I speak the truth and I support you far more than anyone who reinforces this crap with you or anyone else.

Playing with action man isn’t toxic masculinity and if that’s what you think it is then that’s what you’ve been lied to believe. If that’s what you’ve inferred from what I’ve said then you haven’t read what I’ve written. You know what I would have loved as a kid? An Easy Bake Oven - I didn’t get one because that’s a girls toy. That’s toxic masculinity. I just wanted to be a fat kid and eat cupcakes.

“Anywhere he tries to get together as a group in the West he is dealt as a `toxic masculine' (that term you love using) threat and a woman must be in there to keep a watch on him. Men cannot be truly themselves when a woman is there; the atmos will always change to accomodate her.”

In what way? Every time I’ve ever gone to the strip club is with women. Unless you just want to have a circle jerk blaming women for all the world’s problems there’s really nothing any different.

I blamed women and feminism for my being single when I was a child - then I grew up.

[Pussy69]

Today’s society favors women’s protection above all else. It doesn’t matter how much a man’s masculinity is measured if it goes beyond to a point that it can hurt a woman emotionally or physically you can bet there’s an allegation waiting to happen. Suffice it to say we men have to lower that masculinity to just take the verbal assaults or even hits otherwise we end up in jail if that masculinity interferes. You see this happen all the time with Male celebs, athletes and movie actors then their careers are in jeopardy.

Our roll is simply to be the man of the house, but in arguments we have to keep ourselves in check or we lose everything. That’s what this era has become now.

[Kandicaine]

Today’s society favors women’s protection above all else. It doesn’t matter how much a man’s masculinity is measured if it goes beyond to a point that it can hurt a woman emotionally or physically you can bet there’s an allegation waiting to happen. Suffice it to say we men have to lower that masculinity to just take the verbal assaults or even hits otherwise we end up in jail if that masculinity interferes. You see this happen all the time with Male celebs, athletes and movie actors then their careers are in jeopardy.

Our roll is simply to be the man of the house, but in arguments we have to keep ourselves in check or we lose everything. That’s what this era has become now.

Nothing you just described is “masculinity”.

[Stewie studmuffin]

I think the invention of the term "Toxic masculinity" itself is proof of a war on western men. To even mention masculinity in this regard is to imply that masculinity itself is bad and can reach toxic levels. Why can't a bad or toxic man simply be a jerk or an asshole?

[Kandicaine]

I think the invention of the term "Toxic masculinity" itself is proof of a war on western men. To even mention masculinity in this regard is to imply that masculinity itself is bad and can reach toxic levels. Why can't a bad or toxic man simply be a jerk or an asshole?

Even water can be toxic and toxic masculinity isn’t just being a “jerk” or an “asshole”. As I stated above, I never saw my father cry once, he never shared his feelings, he committed suicide. That is one example of toxic masculinity. Men feeling like they can’t - or being unable to share their feelings.

My mother died a month and an half ago. I cried once when it happened and once during a dream a week ago. I am stoic and almost incapable of expressing emotions. That is toxic masculinity. Because that’s what I was exposed to, that’s what society demanded of me and that’s what I became.

You guys don’t seem to understand what toxic masculinity is and seem to believe that it means masculinity is toxic. Even the term itself was literally invented by the men’s movement. It’s now been poisoned by this MGTOW bullshit.

Toxic masculinity and patriarchy pits men against the world, against each other and against themselves.