DocWen wrote: ↑Tue Dec 12, 2023 6:18 am
I feel that we Westerners erroneously think that we are somehow a significant portion of Jiusheng's (or any Asian Doll Maker's) market. My guess is that, for the majority of doll makers, that we are a minor portion of their market which is why we see them hovering around a certain body shape, breast size and LHP.
I wonder if it's cost effective for them to pursue with any real time, energy and money, our Western tastes as anything but a sideline.
Still, I'm with Dollcommander in feeling that a bigger breast model might sell quite well, especially in the West.
I know that my MLW 148 is one of the nicest sculpts of the 7+ dolls I've owned over the last few years. I have no doubt that a bigger breast model of doll would be just spectacular. But, if I remember correctly from another thread, C-Cup is the most popular cup size followed by B-Cup and they seem to be aiming at that larger market.
Smart move? I don't know. Only they know their ROI and if they are doing so well that they don't
need to explore that route.
Those are good points.
The Asian market is very large and the culture is different, but there are a few things I would add or I think could be considered:
- Doll breasts do not behave (physically) like human breasts due to material limitations. A-C cups have very little physical movement because there just is not enough leverage on them to overcome the firmness of the material and allow that movement (jiggle, splaying, sagging etc.). Even though I do appreciate smaller breasts in specific situations, I will tend to go for larger breasts if for no other reason than the increased realism in movement and feel.
- There are already many, many more (maybe hundreds more) options for the Asian market that generally are unsellable to the west for various reasons (mainly legal). Much if not all of MLW's line being one example; Cat Doll, Wax Doll being just a couple more of many others. Even the JS branded 148 B (which was originally a MLW branded body) is riding a very fine line, and likely non importable to some western countries. The differences in style of JS's heads v.s. MLW are what make the 148 B able to barely ride that line. If one were to look outside the "western" box or what is allowable on TDF, they would find hundreds of options in silicone and TPE from AA-C cup aimed at the Asian market (not necessarily due to popularity but because of legality).
- When you look at anime/hentai/gaming/cosplay popular culture (which originated in Asia, generally is targeted to and is the most popular in Asia) you will see tons of large shapely breasts and bodies. These characters were not designed specifically for the west and in many cases were never intended for the west's entertainment and/or to be accessible to the west. Oppai (large breasted) characters are a staple in anime/hentai/gaming. Literal "cow girls" with large lactating breasts are a very popular theme and we are not talking about lactating A cups. There literally are breast milk cafes in Japan.
- Asia (and other regions) have a fascination with western culture and often try to emulate it. From rock music to levis jeans to big breasted blonde bimbos, many Asians love it. Recently, many Asian girls are going as far as to have their eyes surgically altered to look less Asian.
- I think there is a natural desire to have what you can't or don't have and that applies to not only Asians but all cultures. I see hundreds of thin A-C cup girls with faces of varying beauty on the street everyday; rarely do I see thick (not fat) with G cup or larger and a beautiful face, and when I do, they know what they are working with and are almost surely going to be a chore (and $$$) to deal with at a minimum. Large breasted natural blondes are exotic and desireable in Asia (and other regions), many European women go to Asia (and other regions) to capitalize on this and become very rich.
- Medium to large breasts, wide hips etc. hit human males on an instinctual and subconcious level. These are attributes that suggest fertility and the ability to support the raising of children. It is only relatively recently (in human history) that thin, small breasted "supermodel" type bodies have been considered desireable; for the majority of human history, these features were considered undesireable. And even today thousands of women get breast and even ass implants to effectively appeal to men's instinctual wants.
- If they want to tap into the Western market and gain a foot hold, they need more variety imo. Others will.
All of that being said; JS does an outstanding job at what they've done so far and I am highly impressed with what I see and have seen in person.
In regards to the idea of "if you don't like their sculpts, go elsewhere" (not you DW); imagine if JS used that mindset when the idea of silicone or the 148 B was proposed?
