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Took one of those small souvenir spoons, cut it, and attached it to a 60w soldering iron and cranked the heat to 450°. The intention was to melt TPE and pour but it did not work out. Any suggestions?
What it did do was create a nice surface repair on a cut and works well for making smooth openings. The TPE is extra I experiment with.
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For small wounds like that, I use Coeros tpe paste pre-color and goes on cold. You can heat it to finish it if you like though with a hot air blower.
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Synthian wrote: Tue Nov 28, 2023 4:02 am For small wounds like that, I use Coeros tpe paste pre-color and goes on cold. You can heat it to finish it if you like though with a hot air blower.
https://www.coeros.com/product/tpe-sex-doll-paste/
I make my own tpe paste so it's not an issue. What I'm trying to do is heat repairs with on demand melted TPE for larger repairs in a way that doesn't require three hands. The iron/spoon as it is now is good for smoothing and finishing work, but not for melting TPE as I would like.
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The spoon's large surface area is working against the melting temperature being pumped into it
Maybe a bit of extra from a heat gun will get you over the line :whistle:

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A steel spoon will not transfer the amount of heat required to melt TPE with an electric soldering iron.
Even getting a spoon hot enough to smooth TPE requires a fair bit of heat. I use a chef's butane blowtorch to heat spoons. More recently I have been using a leather iron. Perfect for smoothing. Look them up on Amazon or eBay.
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seagull wrote: Tue Nov 28, 2023 4:51 pm The spoon's large surface area is working against the melting temperature being pumped into it
Maybe a bit of extra from a heat gun will get you over the line :whistle:
I ended up using a heat gun in the experiment just like you said. What I would like is using the heat gun on the body and dripping molten TPE into the wounds, using only two hands and without having to switch back and forth between spoon and body. Once the heat gun was removed from the spoon the TPE became more solid-like. Have to figure out a better heat source.
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Tyr wrote: Tue Nov 28, 2023 5:02 pm A steel spoon will not transfer the amount of heat required to melt TPE with an electric soldering iron.
Even getting a spoon hot enough to smooth TPE requires a fair bit of heat. I use a chef's butane blowtorch to heat spoons. More recently I have been using a leather iron. Perfect for smoothing. Look them up on Amazon or eBay.
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The spoon is brass so I was hoping it would transfer heat better. The leather iron inspired this experiment but I like to use materials available locally and as for smoothing the spoon/iron combination seems to work. Just need a better heat source.
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I used an old beefier soldering iron with a 47.5 watt tip and it works. The TPE melts fairly quickly allowing for a pour. I think the newer soldering irons for modern electronics might not have the power like the old ones.
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That looks like a proper beast! Glad it's doing what you want. :thumbs_up:
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Modified the soldering iron/spoon. Cut a slot in the copper tip for the soldering unit, inserted the spoon, drilled a hole through both, and used a copper wire as a sort of rivet. Much better heat transfer and no movement. PLUS, once your done you can heat up your coffee by just stirring! Win-win!! :bday:
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PLUS, once your done you can heat up your coffee by just stirring!
I'm not into hot coffee but even if I was, Hell no! :haha4:

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Your tool looks good, but the melting TPE and pouring it into a wound will be a challenge.

This is due to TPE not being a really good heat conductor. More details about it HERE (viewtopic.php?p=2235322)
An effective alternative is to melt the TPE in the actual wound.

One method is to use a small blade (like the razor blade adapter for your iron) to melt the internal edges of the wound to seal them up.
Another it to place small slivers of TPE in the wound, then use the hot micro blade to melt that TPE in place. It liquefies and results in a good bond.

The common failure on melt pour TPE or surface heat on a cut is that it only make a surface bond that looks good but is not deep.
Maybe a mm or so from the surface is bonded, but deeper is still open. So when moved the lower part opens up, applies stress to the repair and it fails. :(
Getting a good solid bond as deep as possible avoids this.

Keep up the good work on the home made tools!

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Wheezer wrote: Thu Mar 07, 2024 10:03 am Another it to place small slivers of TPE in the wound, then use the hot micro blade to melt that TPE in place. It liquefies and results in a good bond.
Yes, thank you, this I have found out through experimentation. The heated spoon might be good for cast-in-place or creating melted TPE layers for merkins, eyelids, vaginal lips, etc. Another thing I found is with the texturing tool I made in another post is if you create a small copper/aluminum loop and place TPE in it you have a mini crucible for melting TPE on demand.
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I saw that thread and like the home made tooling.
Small and efficient to do detailed doll work.

Very nice.
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I used the cheapest heat gun from Lowe’s on default settings and just smooth out the TPE as it heated to repair the scuffs on her foot. Just gotta make sure there’s baby oil on that area before heating.
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